Mullet is taking actual numbers and trying to argue they aren't relevant. When Campbell beat us they consider that a big win. Why? Not just because of out long-time regional rivalry series but because the CAA is, like it or not, a conference with a higher profile, even after the departures of Mason, ODU and VCU.

All of that would matter to Coastal if the CAA extended an invite. Our conference is significantly better both in athletics and academics than the Big South. Facts.

Coastal would jump in a heartbeat.

I don't put much into the Campbell loss for UNCW but for the CAA as a whole I think it points to the fact that there is not much difference at the top between them and the BIg South.The CAA is much deeper but that might be another reason they would not want to move to a conference that is so spread out over the NE, is a little better overall but comes with no reward for them in basketball.I don't think there is a chance in hell they would join the CAA or the CAA would ask them.The CAA fancies itself as a academic superior for some unknown reason to most.At the end of the day they are not other than W&M and I hear they still want out of the CAA.
By the way I went to Campbell vs UNCA and talked to quite a few fans there and not one of them said they thought beating UNCW was a huge win.Nice little win but they are used to playing UNCW tough and think they should go 50/50 against Wilmington.You guys are wishing for something that is just not the case.I see it a as a minor upset but nothing big for sure.I also would say the same about UNCW beating NE in Boston-nice win but not a huge upset.

(01-26-2015 01:37 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I don't put much into the Campbell loss for UNCW but for the CAA as a whole I think it points to the fact that there is not much difference at the top between them and the BIg South.The CAA is much deeper but that might be another reason they would not want to move to a conference that is so spread out over the NE, is a little better overall but comes with no reward for them in basketball.I don't think there is a chance in hell they would join the CAA or the CAA would ask them.The CAA fancies itself as a academic superior for some unknown reason to most.At the end of the day they are not other than W&M and I hear they still want out of the CAA.
By the way I went to Campbell vs UNCA and talked to quite a few fans there and not one of them said they thought beating UNCW was a huge win.Nice little win but they are used to playing UNCW tough and think they should go 50/50 against Wilmington.You guys are wishing for something that is just not the case.I see it a as a minor upset but nothing big for sure.I also would say the same about UNCW beating NE in Boston-nice win but not a huge upset.

In 2006 it would have been a huge upset. And if Keatts really is leading us back to the level of play we consistently showed during the Wainwright/Brownell days, it will be seen as a huge upset again.

Based on the RPI, we're the best win Campbell has had this season. I'm sure if you asked them now, or perhaps next year, they'll be thinking a little differently.

Mullet, if the Big South is superior to the CAA, then why have forner Big South programs left the Big South to come to the CAA? Why have no CAA programs left the CAA for the Big South. CAA schools only leave for FBS conferences if they offer football or the A10 if they offer no football. Does the Big South have a national tv deal? It's really no argument.

I think Mullet is saying there's no such thing as a mid-major. Just high majors and low majors. Which is of course inaccurate.

Oh, and in order to achieve the desired goal of having CAA divisions, I'd fully support the addition of Stony Brook as the northern school. Not only do they have pretty good programs overall, they have the added benefit of providing the fun "Seawolves vs. Seahawks" wordplay.

I am saying the CAA is a low to mid major and trending down.The Big South is a low major,no doubt but the top is as good as the CAA now.Maybe they lure Coastal but I doubt it.I doubt they want trips to Boston and New York to play softball.Its stupid and you guys know that.Its as dumb as UBA to the CAA.

(01-26-2015 01:54 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I think Mullet is saying there's no such thing as a mid-major. Just high majors and low majors. Which is of course inaccurate.

(01-26-2015 03:08 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The Big South is a low major,no doubt but the top is as good as the CAA now.

You keep saying this, but why should we be impressed with the top teams in the Big South if they're beating up on the likes of Longwood and Presbyterian College? Whereas there are really no "easy wins" in the CAA outside of Elon, the Big South has 6 teams that are outside of the Top 250 in the RPI. The Big South champ will earn as 15 or 16 seed. The CAA champ will probably get a 12-seed and actually have a shot at pulling an upset in the tournament, just as the conference winner has a legitimate chance at that nearly every season.

The CAA is a mid-major, the Big South is a low major. Simple as that.

(01-26-2015 10:49 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Coastal would jump in a heartbeat.

Thia is very true. Coastal has been trying to get out of the big south for years. Their local paper was very informative on this topic during the last major realignment shift.

Uab probably would have other options besides the caa (sunbelt and mvc) but if they become available they would be worthy to pursue

(01-26-2015 01:37 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I don't put much into the Campbell loss for UNCW but for the CAA as a whole I think it points to the fact that there is not much difference at the top between them and the BIg South.The CAA is much deeper but that might be another reason they would not want to move to a conference that is so spread out over the NE, is a little better overall but comes with no reward for them in basketball.I don't think there is a chance in hell they would join the CAA or the CAA would ask them.The CAA fancies itself as a academic superior for some unknown reason to most.At the end of the day they are not other than W&M and I hear they still want out of the CAA.
By the way I went to Campbell vs UNCA and talked to quite a few fans there and not one of them said they thought beating UNCW was a huge win.Nice little win but they are used to playing UNCW tough and think they should go 50/50 against Wilmington.You guys are wishing for something that is just not the case.I see it a as a minor upset but nothing big for sure.I also would say the same about UNCW beating NE in Boston-nice win but not a huge upset.

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall there. The Mullet standing around taking a straw poll on the Campbell win. LOL. Good grief man. What did you expect them to say? You're talking to a bunch of fans.

You need to go back and watch/listen to the Campbell announcers during that game. They give you a much more objective look at it, and they're still homers. They were absolutely praising UNCW the entire time and were not at all stopping short of calling it THE biggest win for Campbell this season.

Mullet: Hey, so I'm a casual observer of UNCW and attend games because I live in Wilmington. I actually can't stand them. What did you think of your win over them?

Fan 1: It was great. I mean, we always expect our team to win, just like anyone else and it was a home game for us.

Fan 2: Yeah, that was a fun game to watch. UNCW is a good team, but we always have a chance.

Mullet: **nods in approval** Comes back to the UNCW boards and says the Big South is top to bottom better than the CAA.

Look, the CAA is trending down because of 4 very recent losses to other conferences. Okay, I get it. But what you fail to realize is that their departure means others will step up and become the top schools in the CAA.

And the schools in the CAA, as far as average size, average budgets, etc. are FAR superior to the Big South and SoCon.

What that means is that it may take some time, but with different conference champions and NIT participants, recruiting will regain traction at winning schools, money will flow to different schools, and coaches will rise to the top.
UNCW was at the top of the conference WITH the VCU, ODU, GMU trio in place. With our commitment, there is no reason we can't rise back to the top. And, if we can get back to contending yearly, are you saying that NO other CAA team even has the possibility?

I think it's a matter of when, not if the CAA moves back to a 2 bid conference, knocking on the door for three bids.

Use some common sense man.

average enrollment

A10 - 14,876

CAA - 13,000

SoCon - 7,965

Big South - 6,197

If it were up to me, the CAA would bring in Campbell with about 10,000 students and a good Raleigh market, and UNCG, located in one of the biggest cities in North Carolina and a large student enrollment of over 18,000.

They were actually the ones to bring it up and they are very knowledgable basketball guys-not just homers.They are pretty realistic about their program and where it is right-not very good.
UNCW is not the same team but most teams improve if they can stay healthy and I see that as key for UNCW as well.Campbell is not deep and have a couple of guys dinged up.

The CAA gets a 12 seed?I would love to see that but do you really believe it?It seems very weak this year-

(01-26-2015 06:31 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The CAA gets a 12 seed?I would love to see that but do you really believe it?It seems very weak this year-

Caa should get a 13 to 14 this year depending on how other conferences go. another reason the caa remains attractive to big south schools

Who will step up?Coastal Carolina is not ODU or VCU and I don't think they are looking for the present day CAA so much.I don't think you will see the CAA as a two bid any time soon on a regular basis-that ship has sailed.

(01-26-2015 05:12 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Look, the CAA is trending down because of 4 very recent losses to other conferences. Okay, I get it. But what you fail to realize is that their departure means others will step up and become the top schools in the CAA.

And the schools in the CAA, as far as average size, average budgets, etc. are FAR superior to the Big South and SoCon.

What that means is that it may take some time, but with different conference champions and NIT participants, recruiting will regain traction at winning schools, money will flow to different schools, and coaches will rise to the top.
UNCW was at the top of the conference WITH the VCU, ODU, GMU trio in place. With our commitment, there is no reason we can't rise back to the top. And, if we can get back to contending yearly, are you saying that NO other CAA team even has the possibility?

I think it's a matter of when, not if the CAA moves back to a 2 bid conference, knocking on the door for three bids.

Use some common sense man.

(01-26-2015 06:31 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The CAA gets a 12 seed?I would love to see that but do you really believe it?It seems very weak this year-

If W&M or Northeastern win the league, yes. If it's us or Hofstra, I'd say 13.

The committee has and will continue to respect the CAA more than you do.

The best the Big South can hope for is a 15.

(01-26-2015 06:27 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  UNCW is not the same team but most teams improve if they can stay healthy and I see that as key for UNCW as well.

Freddie and Sherwood have been banged up a few times this year but we've taken a "next man up" approach each time. Health is important but it sounds like you're trying to use that as the sole reason for our improvement. This team looks completely different than the Campbell game. Not sure how you could possibly not see that.