(01-28-2015 04:52 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 04:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  Doc is not gonna struggle to make just the NCAA's, he is gonna struggle to make the NIT. We hired a guy who had mediocre seasons at a very hard place to win (Nebraska), and we expect him to now be able to win at a very hard place to win (Southern Miss) or either we brought in a guy who had mediocre seasons at a very hard place to win and we expect him to be mediocre here.

Or maybe we brought in a guy who would come here given the circumstances- hard place to win plus rumbling of NCAA trouble to come given Tyndall's skirting of recruiting rules. Sometimes you have to take what you can get.

We had Green, who won a regular season C-USA 1.0 title which is still belittled by many fans, and he was hung out to dry by his own AD.

We had Eustachy, who methodically built a winner and NCAA tournament team, but it wasn't enough to endear him. In fact, he was reviled by many even after beginning to win here.

Tyndall came, put on the dog-and-pony show, paid little head to NCAA rules, openly demanded (and got) a new contract after one year, didn't get to the NCAAs, then walked away as fast as he could, but is still beloved and defended by many.

Maybe the problem isn't with the coaches.

In reply to your first paragraph... that is a definite possibility. I completely agree with everything else.

(01-28-2015 04:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  It only took Doc's replacement 2 years to garner a winning record in the BIG 10+, finishing with an impressive 11-7 record.

Doc is not gonna struggle to make just the NCAA's, he is gonna struggle to make the NIT. We hired a guy who had mediocre seasons at a very hard place to win (Nebraska), and we expect him to now be able to win at a very hard place to win (Southern Miss) or either we brought in a guy who had mediocre seasons at a very hard place to win and we expect him to be mediocre here. To have success at Southern Miss, we need a coach who can win under very difficult circumstances. The problem is that there aren't many of those coaches out there.

Doc seems like a nice guy. I hope he has success. I will be at more basketball games cheering him on more than most Golden Eagle fans that dont live in H'burg area. That said, I wish we had chosen someone else. And Rock, for me, this has nothing to do with who hired him.

Miles just may prove himself an elite-level coach & on deck for a gig at a perennial national championship contender. He's the only person to ever win an NCAA game at Lincoln. That Miles has been an upgrade so far doesn't automatically make Sadler a poor head coach.

Here again, you refer to Sadler as "mediocre." That is quite simply an incorrect label for someone with his track record. Only between 1/4 and 1/3 of college basketball teams go to the NCAAs or NITs in a given year. Sadler-led teams made it 5 out of 8 seasons prior to his arrival at USM. That's a well-above-average performance no matter how you slice it. There's nothing wrong with wishing we'd hired somebody else, but out of whomever applied, not many could've had a better body of work, because his is pretty impressive by any objective measure. For heaven's sake, he's been to the NCAAs 1/3 as many times as our entire program, and the NIT twice as many times as Lord Tyndall took us.

(01-28-2015 05:52 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 04:28 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  It only took Doc's replacement 2 years to garner a winning record in the BIG 10+, finishing with an impressive 11-7 record.

Doc is not gonna struggle to make just the NCAA's, he is gonna struggle to make the NIT. We hired a guy who had mediocre seasons at a very hard place to win (Nebraska), and we expect him to now be able to win at a very hard place to win (Southern Miss) or either we brought in a guy who had mediocre seasons at a very hard place to win and we expect him to be mediocre here. To have success at Southern Miss, we need a coach who can win under very difficult circumstances. The problem is that there aren't many of those coaches out there.

Doc seems like a nice guy. I hope he has success. I will be at more basketball games cheering him on more than most Golden Eagle fans that dont live in H'burg area. That said, I wish we had chosen someone else. And Rock, for me, this has nothing to do with who hired him.

Miles just may prove himself an elite-level coach & on deck for a gig at a perennial national championship contender. He's the only person to ever win an NCAA game at Lincoln. That Miles has been an upgrade so far doesn't automatically make Sadler a poor head coach.

Here again, you refer to Sadler as "mediocre." That is quite simply an incorrect label for someone with his track record. Only between 1/4 and 1/3 of college basketball teams go to the NCAAs or NITs in a given year. Sadler-led teams made it 5 out of 8 seasons prior to his arrival at USM. That's a well-above-performance no matter how you slice it. There's nothing wrong with wishing we'd hired somebody else, but out of whomever applied, not many could've had a better body of work, because his is pretty impressive by any objective measure. For heaven's sake, he's been to the NCAAs 1/3 as many times as our entire program, and the NIT twice as many times as Lord Tyndall took us.

Good points Harbor.

Hopefully after the NCAA gets thru with us we won't curse the first day we ever heard the name Donnie Tyndall.

(01-28-2015 09:19 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Hopefully after the NCAA gets thru with us we won't curse the first day we ever heard the name Donnie Tyndall.

Probably not for a long time RB

Jeff Haeger ‏@TheJeffTakeWHLT 32m32 minutes ago
Nothing official yet, but according to a source Jeremiah Eason and Rasham Suarez are no longer with the Southern Miss basketball program.

I think a former dt assistant monkeyed with some transcripts

(01-28-2015 09:24 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 09:19 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Hopefully after the NCAA gets thru with us we won't curse the first day we ever heard the name Donnie Tyndall.

Probably not for a long time RB

Jeff Haeger ‏@TheJeffTakeWHLT 32m32 minutes ago
Nothing official yet, but according to a source Jeremiah Eason and Rasham Suarez are no longer with the Southern Miss basketball program.

I think a former dt assistant monkeyed with some transcripts

Amazing how they can dig up dirt on us but UNC they have a smoking gun but nothing happens

(01-28-2015 09:24 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  Jeff Haeger ‏@TheJeffTakeWHLT 32m32 minutes ago
Nothing official yet, but according to a source Jeremiah Eason and Rasham Suarez are no longer with the Southern Miss basketball program.

I think a former dt assistant monkeyed with some transcripts

"WMXI98 ‏@wmxi98 2h2 hours ago
Sources tell us basketball players Suarez and Eason to be ruled inelligible at Southern Miss!"

I guess now Millinghaus will get to play after all.

What an absolute clusterfudge.

(01-29-2015 12:45 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(01-28-2015 09:24 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  Jeff Haeger ‏@TheJeffTakeWHLT 32m32 minutes ago
Nothing official yet, but according to a source Jeremiah Eason and Rasham Suarez are no longer with the Southern Miss basketball program.

I think a former dt assistant monkeyed with some transcripts

"WMXI98 ‏@wmxi98 2h2 hours ago
Sources tell us basketball players Suarez and Eason to be ruled inelligible at Southern Miss!"

I guess now Millinghaus will get to play after all.

What an absolute clusterfudge.

It's time to move forward and hit the juco recruiting trail once again....it's worked in the past.....don't see us signing anything that would resemble a KY freshman class...

I think this team, coaches, and school have had enough k-y applied....

thanks for the fk'n DT.....

the Tyndall saga gets worse and worse.

If I was Sadler, I'd probably jet out of this hellhole. What a complete Charlie-Foxtrot.

(01-29-2015 11:54 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  If I was Sadler, I'd probably jet out of this hellhole. What a complete Charlie-Foxtrot.

(01-29-2015 01:08 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 11:54 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  If I was Sadler, I'd probably jet out of this hellhole. What a complete Charlie-Foxtrot.

Youuuuuuu have been paying attention to what's happened since Tyndall left, right? And the news is only getting worse.