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(01-26-2015 11:07 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
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(01-26-2015 12:00 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 12:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  What happened to "We are going to roll with Pookie"?

It is the plan of person without any plan... Constantly, be trying to throw in who looks the best at any given moment. The minutes variations that the players are getting is insane. One bad game and a player may not see the court at all in the next match. There are really only two players who have gotten consistent minutes, Nichols and Woodson. Every other player seems to be a crap shoot from night to night depending on how JP feels. We are half way through the season and we still have no idea what PG is going to get the most run in a game. Pookie is simply JJ 2.0, one mistake and he is on the bench. Unfortunately, JP is taking it even farther with Pookie, 2 mistakes and Pookie might be lucky to play 5 minutes in the next game. There is just noway to expect players to be confident and consistent with the way he does his rotations.

So let Pookie play through mistakes that cost us games then blame the coach for putting him in situations he is not ready for. SOP for MemphisTigers.org

He does not have be playing 30 minutes a game, but how can a player develop and learn while riding the pine? Is Cunningham or Johnson playing that much better and winning us games. We are 12-7. And the idea that Pookie by himself has cost us one game, let alone multiple games as you claim, is just silly...

I gotta agree with midtowncowboy... Pookie f*ck it up and then we blame Pastner... Pookie is just not ready to run this team, let alone play significant minutes... I don't want to sound unfair but Pookie threw away that game against Tulane at the Forum... Not only that, Burrell got so upset, he skipped the handshake and got suspended against SMU.

At the same time, I don't think Cunningham should get more minutes than Pookie.. Cunningham is even worse, he is out of control out there... He is not really a Div 1 player.
01-26-2015 12:45 PM
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RE: NO PG.
(01-26-2015 12:45 PM)passat25 Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 11:07 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 09:52 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:00 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 12:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  What happened to "We are going to roll with Pookie"?

It is the plan of person without any plan... Constantly, be trying to throw in who looks the best at any given moment. The minutes variations that the players are getting is insane. One bad game and a player may not see the court at all in the next match. There are really only two players who have gotten consistent minutes, Nichols and Woodson. Every other player seems to be a crap shoot from night to night depending on how JP feels. We are half way through the season and we still have no idea what PG is going to get the most run in a game. Pookie is simply JJ 2.0, one mistake and he is on the bench. Unfortunately, JP is taking it even farther with Pookie, 2 mistakes and Pookie might be lucky to play 5 minutes in the next game. There is just noway to expect players to be confident and consistent with the way he does his rotations.

So let Pookie play through mistakes that cost us games then blame the coach for putting him in situations he is not ready for. SOP for MemphisTigers.org

He does not have be playing 30 minutes a game, but how can a player develop and learn while riding the pine? Is Cunningham or Johnson playing that much better and winning us games. We are 12-7. And the idea that Pookie by himself has cost us one game, let alone multiple games as you claim, is just silly...

I gotta agree with midtowncowboy... Pookie f*ck it up and then we blame Pastner... Pookie is just not ready to run this team, let alone play significant minutes... I don't want to sound unfair but Pookie threw away that game against Tulane at the Forum... Not only that, Burrell got so upset, he skipped the handshake and got suspended against SMU.

At the same time, I don't think Cunningham should get more minutes than Pookie.. Cunningham is even worse, he is out of control out there... He is not really a Div 1 player.

Did you notice Johnson's numbers for Tulane?
01-26-2015 12:53 PM
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As for Burrell maybe he hates to lose. That is the guy I want on my team not some guy that upsets our soccer-mom coach.
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Pookie needs to be given the green light to score a bit more. He's our most offensively gifted guard, run a few plays for him to score.
01-26-2015 12:57 PM
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3 minutes against Tulane
01-26-2015 12:59 PM
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(01-26-2015 09:52 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:00 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 12:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  What happened to "We are going to roll with Pookie"?

It is the plan of person without any plan... Constantly, be trying to throw in who looks the best at any given moment. The minutes variations that the players are getting is insane. One bad game and a player may not see the court at all in the next match. There are really only two players who have gotten consistent minutes, Nichols and Woodson. Every other player seems to be a crap shoot from night to night depending on how JP feels. We are half way through the season and we still have no idea what PG is going to get the most run in a game. Pookie is simply JJ 2.0, one mistake and he is on the bench. Unfortunately, JP is taking it even farther with Pookie, 2 mistakes and Pookie might be lucky to play 5 minutes in the next game. There is just noway to expect players to be confident and consistent with the way he does his rotations.

So let Pookie play through mistakes that cost us games then blame the coach for putting him in situations he is not ready for. SOP for MemphisTigers.org

I doubt stepping on the inbounds line after making a steal is "costing us the game". I think we were in the lead when he got taken out.
01-26-2015 01:30 PM
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(01-26-2015 12:54 PM)Mick Light Wrote:  As for Burrell maybe he hates to lose. That is the guy I want on my team not some guy that upsets our soccer-mom coach.

I know what you're saying. Burrell is my pick to be out there all the time too. Apparently, he upsets the soccer mom refs, though, too.

Some of his recent mouthy **** is because his best friend left. Trahson is upset, I'm thinking

And we all know how there is generally one kid who 'acts out' the uneven crap more than the others. Now that Iverson is gone, I just don't want that one kid to be Trahson.

On another note, his mom came on the forum and chatted with us about Trahson's name and how he doesn't mind that no one pronounces it correctly. He says everyone should just call him TB, but I'm thinking we should get his name right instead.
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Next to Austin , Burrell is our best all around player. He gets more "50-50" balls than anyone. Another long wing player riding the pine.




Smh
01-26-2015 01:42 PM
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(01-26-2015 01:36 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:54 PM)Mick Light Wrote:  As for Burrell maybe he hates to lose. That is the guy I want on my team not some guy that upsets our soccer-mom coach.

I know what you're saying. Burrell is my pick to be out there all the time too. Apparently, he upsets the soccer mom refs, though, too.

Some of his recent mouthy **** is because his best friend left. Trahson is upset, I'm thinking

And we all know how there is generally one kid who 'acts out' the uneven crap more than the others. Now that Iverson is gone, I just don't want that one kid to be Trahson.

On another note, his mom came on the forum and chatted with us about Trahson's name and how he doesn't mind that no one pronounces it correctly. He says everyone should just call him TB, but I'm thinking we should get his name right instead.

And if the report is true, Iverson is transferring to where Burrell orginally signed before junior college.
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I'm convinced JP would bench AA.
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(01-26-2015 01:44 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  I'm convinced JP would bench AA.


The first time AA missed an open 3 or CDR missed a runner, they would have been riding the pine. Lol
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(01-26-2015 01:43 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 01:36 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:54 PM)Mick Light Wrote:  As for Burrell maybe he hates to lose. That is the guy I want on my team not some guy that upsets our soccer-mom coach.

I know what you're saying. Burrell is my pick to be out there all the time too. Apparently, he upsets the soccer mom refs, though, too.

Some of his recent mouthy **** is because his best friend left. Trahson is upset, I'm thinking

And we all know how there is generally one kid who 'acts out' the uneven crap more than the others. Now that Iverson is gone, I just don't want that one kid to be Trahson.

On another note, his mom came on the forum and chatted with us about Trahson's name and how he doesn't mind that no one pronounces it correctly. He says everyone should just call him TB, but I'm thinking we should get his name right instead.

And if the report is true, Iverson is transferring to where Burrell orginally signed before junior college.

Yea..I know. I think we all are aware that the situation has the potential to get worse and better simultaneously. During times like these, it's probably good to keep the future uncertain until we live it, or we'll spin out on stuff that hasn't happened yet. Sounds too simplistic, though...eh. lol.
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If kedren had been anything close to what he was at Vandy, this team is a tourney team. At least a bubble team. We'd have a PG that can score and control the game. A big that can dominate the paint. And a lot of guys who can play a specific role instead of having to be a "go-to" guy at times.
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(01-26-2015 02:02 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If kedren had been anything close to what he was at Vandy, this team is a tourney team. At least a bubble team. We'd have a PG that can score and control the game. A big that can dominate the paint. And a lot of guys who can play a specific role instead of having to be a "go-to" guy at times.

Don't ask me why, but I'm still holding that slot for Kedren. lol. We all saw one great game where he found his groove. But a couple of us saw the light turn on for split seconds in Vegas watching him in person.

He's got what it takes inside to hold a team together...his energy spreads out to the whole court. I don't know if that can be taught very quickly, or at all.
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(01-26-2015 02:02 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If kedren had been anything close to what he was at Vandy, this team is a tourney team. At least a bubble team. We'd have a PG that can score and control the game. A big that can dominate the paint. And a lot of guys who can play a specific role instead of having to be a "go-to" guy at times.

I don't think this team is even close to a tourney team with Kedren playing at his best. Our losses go way, way, way deeper than point guard play.

We don't beat Tulane, Tulsa, Okia State, Baylor or WSU with Kedren of yore. Maybe SFA.
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(01-26-2015 11:07 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 09:52 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:00 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 12:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  What happened to "We are going to roll with Pookie"?

It is the plan of person without any plan... Constantly, be trying to throw in who looks the best at any given moment. The minutes variations that the players are getting is insane. One bad game and a player may not see the court at all in the next match. There are really only two players who have gotten consistent minutes, Nichols and Woodson. Every other player seems to be a crap shoot from night to night depending on how JP feels. We are half way through the season and we still have no idea what PG is going to get the most run in a game. Pookie is simply JJ 2.0, one mistake and he is on the bench. Unfortunately, JP is taking it even farther with Pookie, 2 mistakes and Pookie might be lucky to play 5 minutes in the next game. There is just noway to expect players to be confident and consistent with the way he does his rotations.

So let Pookie play through mistakes that cost us games then blame the coach for putting him in situations he is not ready for. SOP for MemphisTigers.org

He does not have be playing 30 minutes a game, but how can a player develop and learn while riding the pine? Is Cunningham or Johnson playing that much better and winning us games. We are 12-7. And the idea that Pookie by himself has cost us one game, let alone multiple games as you claim, is just silly...

Johnson did win us the Cincinnati game, our best win of the season.
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(01-27-2015 10:40 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 11:07 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 09:52 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(01-26-2015 12:00 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(01-25-2015 12:48 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  What happened to "We are going to roll with Pookie"?

It is the plan of person without any plan... Constantly, be trying to throw in who looks the best at any given moment. The minutes variations that the players are getting is insane. One bad game and a player may not see the court at all in the next match. There are really only two players who have gotten consistent minutes, Nichols and Woodson. Every other player seems to be a crap shoot from night to night depending on how JP feels. We are half way through the season and we still have no idea what PG is going to get the most run in a game. Pookie is simply JJ 2.0, one mistake and he is on the bench. Unfortunately, JP is taking it even farther with Pookie, 2 mistakes and Pookie might be lucky to play 5 minutes in the next game. There is just noway to expect players to be confident and consistent with the way he does his rotations.

So let Pookie play through mistakes that cost us games then blame the coach for putting him in situations he is not ready for. SOP for MemphisTigers.org

He does not have be playing 30 minutes a game, but how can a player develop and learn while riding the pine? Is Cunningham or Johnson playing that much better and winning us games. We are 12-7. And the idea that Pookie by himself has cost us one game, let alone multiple games as you claim, is just silly...

Johnson did win us the Cincinnati game, our best win of the season.

Kedren played a great game against Cincy, but how can you say he won us the game?

He was more important in that game than the guys who held Octavious Ellis to 2 pts before he fouled out?

Y'all need to get out of the bad habit of trying to put individual wins and losses at the feet of individual players.
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Pastner probably thought he was getting another Geron Johnson when he got Kedren... The thing with K Johnson, I don't think he takes basketball that serious at this point of his life...... There is a reason why he left Vandy...

He is a nice guy, full of positive energy but he doesn't seem fully committed to the sport... He will probably pursue music after college.
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KJ is our PG. We play better when he's in. Pookies going to catch on someday ... he's getting better every game. But KJ knows how to be the leader on the floor. He has the knowledge,patience and maturity we need. Austin's better, Woodsons better, Everybody is better. You gotta see this. SERIOUSLY !!!
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(01-29-2015 12:57 AM)steves Wrote:  KJ is our PG. We play better when he's in. Pookies going to catch on someday ... he's getting better every game. But KJ knows how to be the leader on the floor. He has the knowledge,patience and maturity we need. Austin's better, Woodsons better, Everybody is better. You gotta see this. SERIOUSLY !!!

Seriously. I see it. lol.
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