News coming from a lot higher than my pay grade, Brady being let go is about 95% chance done deal, admin isn't worried about the contract buy out. Even if Brady wins CAA tourny it's most likely not going to save his career at Jmu according to higher ups. More info later.

Bourne has made no secret of this topic. He has said many times "We'll win, with this coach or the next one"...not a ringing endorsement.

Good... As stupid as it sounds, him winning the CAA tourney and going to the NCAA's only made things worst IMO. Should have been let go that year.

(01-22-2015 10:25 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  News coming from a lot higher than my pay grade, Brady being let go is about 95% chance done deal, admin isn't worried about the contract buy out. Even if Brady wins CAA tourny it's most likely not going to save his career at Jmu according to higher ups. More info later.

WOW --- thanks for that news flash. I figured given JMU's stance of not liking to buyout coaches JMU would just wait until after next season when the buyout would be very low.

I think Admin wants Brady gone and a lot of the fanbase shares that opinion.....but someone with deep-pockets or a group of donors must have stepped up and agreed to fund the buyout. That is just my opinion on why JMU Admin would do that now.

I also agree that decision and agree that a magical run in March in Baltimore should bail him out again.

(01-22-2015 10:31 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 10:25 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  News coming from a lot higher than my pay grade, Brady being let go is about 95% chance done deal, admin isn't worried about the contract buy out. Even if Brady wins CAA tourny it's most likely not going to save his career at Jmu according to higher ups. More info later.

WOW --- thanks for that news flash. I figured given JMU's stance of not liking to buyout coaches JMU would just wait until after next season when the buyout would be very low.

I think Admin wants Brady gone and a lot of the fanbase shares that opinion.....but someone with deep-pockets or a group of donors must have stepped up and agreed to fund the buyout. That is just my opinion on why JMU Admin would do that now.

I also agree that decision and agree that a magical run in March in Baltimore should bail him out again.

As bad as the CAA is, winning the CAA is pretty much akin to rolling a 10 sided dice.

I don't think many people give Brady the credit he deserves for taking a program that was awful and making it mediocre to decent in a short period of time. It seems like faint praise, but that was no easy task.

That said, Brady's continuing, deep seeded conflicts with a number of his players leaves me a bit apathetic about whether he is retained. I am concerned that the program will regress if we miss on the next hire, but I also am not certain if Brady will be able to create the stability necessary to move us to the next level (a team that is consistently in the upper echelon of a low major basketball league).

when you lose 7 out of 8 recruits in a 2 year period, and don't win enough, you know the end is coming.

Frankly, I'm more worried about Bourne picking a successor.

(01-22-2015 10:37 AM)jmu82 Wrote:  Frankly, I'm more worried about Bourne picking a successor.

Bourne? You mean Carr Consultants...

Let's introduce something here, what if Brady decision wasn't coming from JB, farther more what if JB is on his way out too? Hard to see JB leaving in my opinion, but some admin and bigger donors want him out for reasons even I don't understand yet. Although I think JB is not a more than average athletic director, lacking in vision, and down right horrible at dealing with AD staff/coaches; I can't see him leaving unless he was hired away. He has deep roots and connections in area and region. That said Matt Brady's problems are shared with JB and lack of support and tied hands in recruiting and decision making.

(01-22-2015 10:41 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  Let's introduce something here, what if Brady decision wasn't coming from JB, farther more what if JB is on his way out too?

Well, Bourne's boss is King, and King is probably #2 at JMU. Unless Alger is cleaning house, I doubt Bourne is going anyway unless he is retiring.

(01-22-2015 10:45 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 10:41 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  Let's introduce something here, what if Brady decision wasn't coming from JB, farther more what if JB is on his way out too?

Well, Bourne's boss is King, and King is probably #2 at JMU. Unless Alger is cleaning house, I doubt Bourne is going anyway unless he is retiring.

Now that would be some major news there if that were to happen. I just don't see JB going anywhere unless he retires.

Would show some action that is for sure by Alger.

(01-22-2015 10:34 AM)Purple Pilgrim Wrote:  I don't think many people give Brady the credit he deserves for taking a program that was awful and making it mediocre to decent in a short period of time. It seems like faint praise, but that was no easy task.

That said, Brady's continuing, deep seeded conflicts with a number of his players leaves me a bit apathetic about whether he is retained. I am concerned that the program will regress if we miss on the next hire, but I also am not certain if Brady will be able to create the stability necessary to move us to the next level (a team that is consistently in the upper echelon of a low major basketball league).

agreed.

is much Brady bashing as goes on, whenever he leaves JMU, he'll leave as the 3rd best coach in JMU men's hoops history behind Lou and Lefty. For whatever that's worth.

I like Brady as a man and as a recruiter. He brought in some very talented dudes when the cupboard was so bare (remember Dillard/Keener?). However, too many players have left, too much has gone wrong off the court and if what I hear is correct, we might be on probation due to APR violations.

If we get hit with probation as a result of APR that is just unacceptable and I think would void Brady's contract and not require a buyout.

(01-22-2015 10:57 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  If we get hit with probation as a result of APR that is just unacceptable and I think would void Brady's contract and not require a buyout.

APR failure gives JMU cause to terminate w/o payout, according to his contract.

It so easy to be a coach at JMU. Just find the recruits W&M is interested in and recruit them.

(01-22-2015 10:57 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  If we get hit with probation as a result of APR that is just unacceptable and I think would void Brady's contract and not require a buyout.

This. I would actually be more shocked if we didn't get APR probation. And if that's true, he is DEFINITELY out. There's just a culture of not sticking around for more than a year or two and not for good reasons.

JB leaving would mean sweeping changes are happening and I would love to know who would be the one who made that call. If Alger, than we know he is willing to take action on something (for whatever reason is specified). King has no problem doing whatever the hell he wants, so that wouldn't surprise me as much. Getting rid of JB I feel like would be a signal toward much larger things going on. I don't have a huge problem with Bourne, but I would be slightly more optimistic about conference changes because what's the point in a changing of the guard if we're sticking with the same old stuff...

(01-22-2015 10:55 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  I like Brady as a man and as a recruiter. He brought in some very talented dudes when the cupboard was so bare (remember Dillard/Keener?). However, too many players have left, too much has gone wrong off the court and if what I hear is correct, we might be on probation due to APR violations.

I like Brady. But I cannot seem to get passed the court case with had after his hire. I am also concerned that he expects his players to be grown men and to act like grown men, rather than demanded it, guiding them, and mentoring. He wants them to already be grown up. We are talking basketball players who have most likely never even had a summer job before. These guys can be slow to achieve maturity and I'm not sure if Brady knows what to do when they screw up. However, AJ responded perfectly to Brady's actions, so what do I know.

(01-22-2015 11:20 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 10:55 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  I like Brady as a man and as a recruiter. He brought in some very talented dudes when the cupboard was so bare (remember Dillard/Keener?). However, too many players have left, too much has gone wrong off the court and if what I hear is correct, we might be on probation due to APR violations.

I like Brady. But I cannot seem to get passed the court case with had after his hire. I am also concerned that he expects his players to be grown men and to act like grown men, rather than demanded it, guiding them, and mentoring. He wants them to already be grown up. We are talking basketball players who have most likely never even had a summer job before. These guys can be slow to achieve maturity and I'm not sure if Brady knows what to do when they screw up. However, AJ responded perfectly to Brady's actions, so what do I know.

AJ didn't respond until the last games of his tenure. He was also 24 at that point. As good as AJ was at the end, I consider his career disappointing as a whole.