(03-18-2015 11:00 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 10:38 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I don't believe that is JA's skill set or wheel house. He seems dialed into "listening" and diversity!

The dynamic leadership that you described no longer exists. They don't make men like Ron Carrier anymore!

I miss our President! We've all heard these words, but not from today's JMU administration. Its the, "do not step on any toes crowd in charge today. (documented quote below)

Lou Frye, long-time physical plant supervisor at Madison, was knee deep in wet concrete pouring a footer for the new Madison Stadium (now Bridgeforth Stadium). There was a big rush to get the job done so that the stadium would be available for the opening game of the new season. Dr. Carrier, standing on higher ground above Lou, said: “Lou, you have to hurry and finish this job.” Frye responded: “Dr. Carrier, you know Rome wasn't built in a day!” Dr. Carrier immediately said: “Lou, I wasn't in charge.”

I knew Lou Frye before he began his career at Madison College.

I want 2buck to head the charge for luring Anthony Grant!

I wonder if Grant has a chip on his shoulder regarding Alabama. No matter what happens he is making $1.9 million. If he is vindictive he will have his new employer pay lower in the first years of the contract and then escalate it after Alabama is off the hook.
That way Alabama has to literally pay for not keeping him through 2018.

I vote that JMU pays Grant $1000 with 2buck's pledged increase and Alabama pays $1,899,000.

(03-18-2015 09:02 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I want 2buck to head the charge for luring Anthony Grant!

I wonder if Grant has a chip on his shoulder regarding Alabama. No matter what happens he is making $1.9 million. If he is vindictive he will have his new employer pay lower in the first years of the contract and then escalate it after Alabama is off the hook.
That way Alabama has to literally pay for not keeping him through 2018.

I vote that JMU pays Grant $1000 with 2buck's pledged increase and Alabama pays $1,899,000.

With that scenario JMU can afford Brady's buyout as well.

(03-18-2015 11:40 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 10:21 AM)TXGiant Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:45 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 09:45 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 09:39 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I think in a weird way if JMU WBB goes to Chapel Hill and wins it works against Brady. Juxtapose the CIT loss at USC Upstate with a real March experience and victory the admin has to consider that a change may be needed.

You're talking about two completely different universes when you talk about men's and women's basketball. One truly has nothing to do with the other. Ask Kenny Brooks.

I disagree, I think DoubleD is right on with his comment. It's not about a correlation between the head coaching positions from a technical perspective, it's about a culture and expectation of winning. The women's program has created a successful program without excuses. The investment and challenges for success in the men's program may be different but our expectations and success meter is in the crapper. (By "our" of course I mean some of you, not me)

The whiners can go on about how this isn't the 80's or 90's and things will never be that way again but I find that quite pathetic. Resigning themselves to a sub-standard in any aspect of our wonderful school is a slap to dear Uncle Ron.

I agree but I believe the culture and expectation of winning starts at the very top of the University. If it doesn't start there, it won't happen. I'm not sure JA is capable of that kind of leadership. The state of Athletics at JMU calls for dynamic leadership- it is my hope that Alger steps up.

That's what I find so confounding. The stadium expansion and EW hire point to aggressive steps toward a winning culture. I don't know if it's private donors driving that or what, and specific to just football. Brooks has done an amazing job but is that a case of blind luck by the admin, just filling the position willy-nilly only to have struck oil?

Men's basketball is by far the most bang for the buck when it comes to getting on the national stage. The investment and resources is a fraction of football (except perhaps for the facility but I'd point out the BB facility is multi-purpose where the football is more single purpose so the BB has a better ROI). BB head coach has so much more influence on success (vs huge football staff), fewer scholarships, less equipment, smaller team for travel costs, etc. If you dump all the money into the head coach (and facility of course) you're golden.

Schools can and have created top 25 MBB programs "overnight", that is impossible with football, though some schools have had "quick" success such as Boise St. I'm still all for moving up in football but dollar for dollar we'd build a more successful MBB program than football can ever hope to be. I don't care if every school wants it and every school can do it, I want our school to do it. We deserve it, and I for one as an under-utilized donor am willing to step up my giving by thousands for the right commitment from the admin.

I couldn't agree more. As a matter of fact I posted nearly the exact sentiment ( although not as clearly articulated) earlier in this thread. Basketball has to be the sport to JMU on the Map. I realize that playing in a better football conference may get us a little more exposure but we'll never be part of the national discussion. We could get there in basketball with a full scale commitment from the top.

Like HMK, I knew Lou Frye well. He was head of the bus dept. At King George County prior to going to JMU. His wife drove the bus I rode. He.loved his sports and would throw a cookout for our football team at his place at Fairview Beach. He survived an attempt on his life once taking five bullets. He was a tough man.

Additional thought: Should we announce a conference move, Matt would not have a $322K buyout, but rather a $622K buyout. Never-the-less we will know in less than two weeks, as the contract says we will let him know by Mar. 31 each year. I do not think anything will change unless he goes to JB and says he has an opportunity somewhere else, thus opening the door for some negotiations. I do believe he is well respected within the coaching community.

(03-19-2015 08:11 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Additional thought: Should we announce a conference move, Matt would not have a $322K buyout, but rather a $622K buyout. Never-the-less we will know in less than two weeks, as the contract says we will let him know by Mar. 31 each year. I do not think anything will change unless he goes to JB and says he has an opportunity somewhere else, thus opening the door for some negotiations. I do believe he is well respected within the coaching community.

How the hell can he be well respected? He loses key players every year due to discrepancies, there always seems to be an issue off the court that's embarrassing to the school, and after 7 years shows no consistency in coaching. You must be desperate if you want Matt Brady as a coach.

(03-19-2015 09:08 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 08:11 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Additional thought: Should we announce a conference move, Matt would not have a $322K buyout, but rather a $622K buyout. Never-the-less we will know in less than two weeks, as the contract says we will let him know by Mar. 31 each year. I do not think anything will change unless he goes to JB and says he has an opportunity somewhere else, thus opening the door for some negotiations. I do believe he is well respected within the coaching community.

How the hell can he be well respected? He loses key players every year due to discrepancies, there always seems to be an issue off the court that's embarrassing to the school, and after 7 years shows no consistency in coaching. You must be desperate if you want Matt Brady as a coach.

I think the coaching community is very small and they tend to take care of one another. Coaches always have a landing spot.

(03-19-2015 09:48 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 09:08 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 08:11 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Additional thought: Should we announce a conference move, Matt would not have a $322K buyout, but rather a $622K buyout. Never-the-less we will know in less than two weeks, as the contract says we will let him know by Mar. 31 each year. I do not think anything will change unless he goes to JB and says he has an opportunity somewhere else, thus opening the door for some negotiations. I do believe he is well respected within the coaching community.

How the hell can he be well respected? He loses key players every year due to discrepancies, there always seems to be an issue off the court that's embarrassing to the school, and after 7 years shows no consistency in coaching. You must be desperate if you want Matt Brady as a coach.

I think the coaching community is very small and they tend to take care of one another. Coaches always have a landing spot.

Unless your Dean Keener

(03-18-2015 09:02 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I want 2buck to head the charge for luring Anthony Grant!

I wonder if Grant has a chip on his shoulder regarding Alabama. No matter what happens he is making $1.9 million. If he is vindictive he will have his new employer pay lower in the first years of the contract and then escalate it after Alabama is off the hook.
That way Alabama has to literally pay for not keeping him through 2018.

I vote that JMU pays Grant $1000 with 2buck's pledged increase and Alabama pays $1,899,000.

Yeah, it seems Grant had some early success and the plug was pulled pretty quick on him. The grind of in-conference play in the SEC is tough on a team. I was hoping the situation with Boeheim would present another Lefty-type opportunity (top tier coach getting squeezed out by circumstances) but I'd have to win the lottery to help pull in a coach like him.

Well now that we know the convo won't be built until 2018, there is no rush for a coaching decision. JMU can and probably will make it next year.
It is likely Brady gets a mandate...make the NCAA tournament if you want to keep your job.
I'm okay with that because the program must have upward momentum to fully leverage a shiny new arena.

(03-19-2015 05:47 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Well now that we know the convo won't be built until 2018, there is no rush for a coaching decision. JMU can and probably will make it next year.
It is likely Brady gets a mandate...make the NCAA tournament if you want to keep your job.
I'm okay with that because the program must have upward momentum to fully leverage a shiny new arena.

It should be done now. Don't wait and make us go through another season of this.

I am really hoping the admin will step up this time and will be disappointed if there is no change.

I hope the admin realizes how many fans are waiting in the woods and would reappear if a big name is chosen. A lot. Not only have the marginal fans disassociated from the program but even some of the long-time diehards.

(03-19-2015 09:17 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 05:47 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Well now that we know the convo won't be built until 2018, there is no rush for a coaching decision. JMU can and probably will make it next year.
It is likely Brady gets a mandate...make the NCAA tournament if you want to keep your job.
I'm okay with that because the program must have upward momentum to fully leverage a shiny new arena.

It should be done now. Don't wait and make us go through another season of this.

I am really hoping the admin will step up this time and will be disappointed if there is no change.

I hope the admin realizes how many fans are waiting in the woods and would reappear if a big name is chosen. A lot. Not only have the marginal fans disassociated from the program but even some of the long-time diehards.

Another season of what?? 19 wins, a win over Richmond and postseason? Maybe not the postseason some of you want, but postseason nonetheless! This was not a 10 win season.

An NCAA or bust mandate seems to be pointed in the right direction, but maybe a little shortsighted given the fact the CAA is a one bid league. I'd be more comfortable with regular season championship (outright), NCAA bid and/or RPI top 100 (maybe even 80) finish. That should give the staff enough rope.

(03-19-2015 10:53 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  Unless your Dean Keener

Unless my Dean Keener what? (sorry, had to)

(03-20-2015 09:15 AM)PhillyDuke Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 09:17 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 05:47 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Well now that we know the convo won't be built until 2018, there is no rush for a coaching decision. JMU can and probably will make it next year.
It is likely Brady gets a mandate...make the NCAA tournament if you want to keep your job.
I'm okay with that because the program must have upward momentum to fully leverage a shiny new arena.

It should be done now. Don't wait and make us go through another season of this.

I am really hoping the admin will step up this time and will be disappointed if there is no change.

I hope the admin realizes how many fans are waiting in the woods and would reappear if a big name is chosen. A lot. Not only have the marginal fans disassociated from the program but even some of the long-time diehards.

Another season of what?? 19 wins, a win over Richmond and postseason? Maybe not the postseason some of you want, but postseason nonetheless! This was not a 10 win season.

An NCAA or bust mandate seems to be pointed in the right direction, but maybe a little shortsighted given the fact the CAA is a one bid league. I'd be more comfortable with regular season championship (outright), NCAA bid and/or RPI top 100 (maybe even 80) finish. That should give the staff enough rope.

Yep. How quickly we forget the Keener/Dillard years.

As of this morning there is absolutely no plans to fire Matt Brady this season or any plans to not resign him. Admin completely flipped from early season plans.

(03-20-2015 10:52 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  As of this morning there is absolutely no plans to fire Matt Brady this season or any plans to not resign him. Admin completely flipped from early season plans.

This is good News and I hope proves accurate like most of your news!!!

(03-20-2015 11:20 AM)lexduke398 Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 10:52 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  As of this morning there is absolutely no plans to fire Matt Brady this season or any plans to not resign him. Admin completely flipped from early season plans.

This is good News and I hope proves accurate like most of your news!!!

Agreed - should allow excellent seating options next year.

(03-20-2015 11:31 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 11:20 AM)lexduke398 Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 10:52 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  As of this morning there is absolutely no plans to fire Matt Brady this season or any plans to not resign him. Admin completely flipped from early season plans.

This is good News and I hope proves accurate like most of your news!!!

Agreed - should allow excellent seating options next year.

I'm happy with seats so Id rather not change.

(03-20-2015 10:52 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  As of this morning there is absolutely no plans to fire Matt Brady this season or any plans to not resign him. Admin completely flipped from early season plans.

That is good news. They culture definitely improved once he unloaded Nation and the kids responded. The players in the program now like him and are willing to work for him. There was improvement across the board in player development. Hell, we are even talking about Chabarkapa playing a significant role next year, something that would have sounded crazy in November! know a lot of you on here want change but I see sticking with Brady as our best bet to stabilize our program and see some short term success which I would define as a regular season title next year and a good shot to win the CAA tourney.

(03-20-2015 11:36 AM)Dutch Duke Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 10:52 AM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  As of this morning there is absolutely no plans to fire Matt Brady this season or any plans to not resign him. Admin completely flipped from early season plans.

That is good news. They culture definitely improved once he unloaded Nation and the kids responded. The players in the program now like him and are willing to work for him. There was improvement across the board in player development. Hell, we are even talking about Chabarkapa playing a significant role next year, something that would have sounded crazy in November! know a lot of you on here want change but I see sticking with Brady as our best bet to stabilize our program and see some short term success which I would define as a regular season title next year and a good shot to win the CAA tourney.

Totally Agree. Not the right time/culture for a reboot.