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If Kent State drops football, then........
Miami Herald reports that Kent State has employed a NC firm to assess their football operation as they expect to continually lose $1 million per year on FBS football.

Link at: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/article7684379.html

If Kent State, or the other 3-4 teams grumbling about their FB status and shaky finances, drops down to FCS, or drops FB all together, does that open up a slot for JMU, which has been rumored to desire MAC membership?

If so, that removes the one FCS team that has an advantage over Liberty in FBS call up. The SBC, with it's ups/downs/twists/turns, is a more desirable conference for LU than the MAC.

Lots more to unfold here. Just one team making a move/change, in any league, will cause a ripple effect and the dominoes will begin to fall again.
01-21-2015 11:10 PM
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If Kent State drops football, then........
I don't know the answers, but I would be shocked on Kent dropped.
01-23-2015 09:24 AM
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RE: If Kent State drops football, then........
(01-23-2015 09:24 AM)army56mike Wrote:  I don't know the answers, but I would be shocked on Kent dropped.
It appears there are several teams that feel the economic drain of FBS football, compared to the income/benefits. It is being questioned by adminstrations. Kent only averages 13,544 per home game. Only the top 3 teams in the MAC outdraw Liberty. Stats for 2014-2015 year from NCAA.

The MAC teams seems to be content to as the lower tier league and status quo. Read some of the comments from posters on their board. It's like they accept the reality that Ohio, Michigan and others P5 will get the best athletes and the economic support and marketing glory. Maybe the hill is to steep and high to climb to change that perception. I personally hope that LU does not become affiliated with a conference that is satisfied with status quo or being the accepted lesser quality offering. At least the SBC, with all it's changes/moves scrambles to do the best it can. There is also a reason that the SBC has been repeatedly raided while the MAC has not.

Would these teams provide a spike in attendance for LU home games. Sure. These teams would be a major upgrade over the past weak home schedule of LU. With Kent's lowly listing of #10 in attendance in the MAC, one has to wonder what is the upside if any, for the current position of the program, and if the benefit outweighs the cost.

Per game Cap Cap%
Ohio Mid-American 123,090 20,515 24,000 85.48 6
Buffalo Mid-American 122,418 20,403 29,013 70.32 6
Toledo Mid-American 117,286 19,548 26,244 74.48 6
Central Mich. Mid-American 97,838 16,306 30,255 53.90 6
Massachusetts Mid-American 96,527 16,088 17,000 94.63 6
Miami (OH) Mid-American 95,438 15,906 24,286 65.50 6
Bowling Green Mid-American 91,365 15,228 24,000 63.45 6
Kent St. Mid-American 81,263 13,544 25,000 54.18 6
Western Mich. Mid-American 78,124 15,625 30,200 51.74 5
Eastern Mich. Mid-American 75,127 15,025 30,200 49.75 5
Northern Ill. Mid-American 67,813 13,563 31,000 43.75 5
Ball St. Mid-American 56,332 9,389 22,500 41.73 6
Akron Mid-American 55,019 9,170 30,000 30.57 6
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01-23-2015 09:53 AM
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RE: If Kent State drops football, then........
JMU has some interesting conversations as well. JMU's athletic budget is made up of 77% in student fees. That's outrageous. Even many JMU supports are saying it's time to take a step back and evaluate how money is being spent on athletics.

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RE: If Kent State drops football, then........
An additional $1 million in a $25 million budget is not a deal killer unless the president would rather just get rid of football anyway.
UAB's budget wasnt what killed football. It was the president and their crimson tide stacked BOR.
01-23-2015 02:51 PM
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RE: If Kent State drops football, then........
(01-23-2015 02:51 PM)voss749 Wrote:  An additional $1 million in a $25 million budget is not a deal killer unless the president would rather just get rid of football anyway.
UAB's budget wasnt what killed football. It was the president and their crimson tide stacked BOR.
You're likely right in that if the shortfall was only a million dollars, the prez would look for means to make up the difference rather than commission a study to review if the cost/benefit is worthwhile. It's almost like building a case to make your announcement later of what you have already decided.
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(01-23-2015 01:25 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  JMU has some interesting conversations as well. JMU's athletic budget is made up of 77% in student fees. That's outrageous. Even many JMU supports are saying it's time to take a step back and evaluate how money is being spent on athletics.

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What is a norm percent for student fees?
01-23-2015 04:23 PM
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There's a bill being introduced in VA that would cap student fees. I've read that student fees shouldn't be more than half of the athletic budget.

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RE: If Kent State drops football, then........
I'd be extremely surprised if Kent State (or any other FBS school) dropped football. It takes extreme circumstances (UAB) in order to get something to happen. And UAB may be back if you believe some of their posters. Nobody leaves FBS football. It's too valuable to give up.
01-24-2015 01:42 PM
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RE: If Kent State drops football, then........
(01-24-2015 01:42 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I'd be extremely surprised if Kent State (or any other FBS school) dropped football. It takes extreme circumstances (UAB) in order to get something to happen. And UAB may be back if you believe some of their posters. Nobody leaves FBS football. It's too valuable to give up.
The predominance of sports interest in our country, and the high popularity of college football, make FBS football the most valuable sports commodity for colleges. As the disparity between the top 5 conferences and the bottom 5 expands, this type of discussion can be expected to happen more often. Those marginal schools, in the economic and marketing shadow of a bigger institution, are suspectible to struggling econmically, hence UAB. Any defined separation of the top and bottom conferences will cause more schools to have this dialogue.
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