I always thought that CUSA made a wrong choice in expanding to 12 teams. I know they added the championship game but i think that wil hurt more than help them in getting into BCS game.
They should have just added teams o get to nine
ECU
Memphis
Southern Miss
Houston
UAB
Tulane
Marshall
UCF
Rice

It will be interesting to see but both the WAC and MWC have gotten a team in a BCS Bowl. Lets`see when CUSA gets that acomplished.Imagine a 12-0 CUSA team losing their championship to a 9-3 team and blowing their shot at a BCS Bowl

factoid Wrote:While well intentined I am sure, there is no merit to any of this post I can assure the readers. Someone has blown smoke in this case and I don't mean 66PIRATE. There is no question that CUSA has not been cooperative with ECU proposals to cut travel costs and missed class time, but that is as far as it goes right now.

Why do I get the feeling that this is a regular poster posting under an alias? Sorry factoid no one believe you.

66PIRATE is certainly no rumor monger but he received some bad information from someone inside ECU. While ECU will likely do something to cut its travel costs and missed class time, nothing as posted is in the works at this time. My guess is that something will happen sooner than later, but not what is posted.

Why the new name though. You obviously read the board and made a new name today just for this thread.

What are you saying that isn't allowed under your normal name?

If anything happens in Conference USA is that UTEP will eventually leave to go the Mountain West and TCU will return.

Didn't ECU tell their football recruits 3 years ago that they would already be in the Big East?

Their leaks/rumors sure haven't come true of late.

PS. Plus...since they are going to the Big East (sometime I guess...according to their AD), why would they need to organize with all of those CUSA schools like USM, Memphis, UAB, and Marshall et al?

It just doesn't ad up.

That would be a bold move by ECU. It's essentially banking on a football-only invite and no split. Leaving C-USA would kill all their other sports and the Big East would never want them as a full member. Going Indy would basically be putting all your eggs into the football only basket. C-USA would be fine and would add La. Tech. I don't think C-USA is having problems. It appears to be a very stable setup. Going Indy could backfire big time for a Big East invite. Say ECU does really well and goes 9-3 or something a couple of seasons, but doesn't have a conference for bowl affliation. Would they still get a bowl? And what if UCF or Memphis has the same record but gets conference titles to go with the record. I would think UCF or Memphis would have the upper hand. Not to mention being better in the all-sports area.

Quote:That would be a bold move by ECU. It's essentially banking on a football-only invite and no split. Leaving C-USA would kill all their other sports and the Big East would never want them as a full member

IMO...I can't imgaine ECU leaving CUSA without some kind of assurance that will be joining the BE in a matter of years. In other words if they did go Indy, then it would have to be for the short run. Navy football has thrived as an Indy, is ECU trying to follow in their footsteps?

Quote:I always thought that CUSA made a wrong choice in expanding to 12 teams.

-- I agree. The idea of having a league from Greenville to El Paso strikes be as being crazy. I like the idea above of having a new league made up of Memphis, ECU, UCF, UAB, Marshall, Western Kentucky, USM and maybe Fla Atlantic and/or La Tech....a small tight-nit regional league

Jackson

CollegeCard Wrote:Why the new name though. You obviously read the board and made a new name today just for this thread.

What are you saying that isn't allowed under your normal name?

I don't read this board but someone posted a link to 66PIRATE's post that started this chain so I followed it hear and posted what I'm certain is more accurate information. There have been many inaccurate leaks from inside ECU and some innocent people get burned by accepting them at face value. Often they are simply "what if" discussions but some are either unable to understand that or want to make themselves seem in the know by repeating them. Sad but true. Again, 66PIRATE is just posting what someone told him, but it is inaccurate with regard to forming any new conference.

Jugnaut Wrote:That would be a bold move by ECU. It's essentially banking on a football-only invite and no split. Leaving C-USA would kill all their other sports and the Big East would never want them as a full member.

When the BE adds, whether it's a football only or 9th team after a split the #1,#2,#3, and #4 factors will be football. If by some fluke the presidents determine the ECU and another school would add the same amount to the football league then maybe the other sports would be a tiebreaker. All you need to do is look at the recent conference realignment to realize that football drives college sports.

who cares about CUSA? I couldn't name four schools in current CUSA and really don't care to. ECU will not be joining the Big East. Their coach wanted to leave for cincy and was told"thanks but no thanks". Looks like that "pirate" ship is sinking. HA HA LOL!!!!!

Jugnaut Wrote:That would be a bold move by ECU. It's essentially banking on a football-only invite and no split. Leaving C-USA would kill all their other sports and the Big East would never want them as a full member. Going Indy would basically be putting all your eggs into the football only basket. C-USA would be fine and would add La. Tech. I don't think C-USA is having problems. It appears to be a very stable setup. Going Indy could backfire big time for a Big East invite. Say ECU does really well and goes 9-3 or something a couple of seasons, but doesn't have a conference for bowl affliation. Would they still get a bowl? And what if UCF or Memphis has the same record but gets conference titles to go with the record. I would think UCF or Memphis would have the upper hand. Not to mention being better in the all-sports area.

You're two years removed from the A-Sun apparently it didn't hurt you in your opinion of your "all sports" program When we were an Indy we had an individual TV deal with ESPN and an individual bowl tie in with the Liberty Bowl. I'm not supporting a move but I don't nessasarly think those are hurdles we couldn't overcome if we choose that path. As far as our other sports I could remind you we have already been in a league with programs like Louisville, Cincy, USF etc. Not the A-Sun so come off your mountain you built for yourself when talking about our other sports because you have no clue what will or will not happen. The only fact is we were playing with the likes of Louisville, Marquette, USF, Depaul, and Cincy two years ago in all sports and you were playing with the likes of Campbell.

Cubanbull Wrote:I always thought that CUSA made a wrong choice in expanding to 12 teams. I know they added the championship game but i think that wil hurt more than help them in getting into BCS game.
They should have just added teams o get to nine
ECU
Memphis
Southern Miss
Houston
UAB
Tulane
Marshall
UCF
Rice

That 9-team set-up is fine except for Rice. I would much rather have Tulsa than Rice.

StillJonesing Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:That would be a bold move by ECU. It's essentially banking on a football-only invite and no split. Leaving C-USA would kill all their other sports and the Big East would never want them as a full member. Going Indy would basically be putting all your eggs into the football only basket. C-USA would be fine and would add La. Tech. I don't think C-USA is having problems. It appears to be a very stable setup. Going Indy could backfire big time for a Big East invite. Say ECU does really well and goes 9-3 or something a couple of seasons, but doesn't have a conference for bowl affliation. Would they still get a bowl? And what if UCF or Memphis has the same record but gets conference titles to go with the record. I would think UCF or Memphis would have the upper hand. Not to mention being better in the all-sports area.

You're two years removed from the A-Sun apparently it didn't hurt you in your opinion of your "all sports" program When we were an Indy we had an individual TV deal with ESPN and an individual bowl tie in with the Liberty Bowl. I'm not supporting a move but I don't nessasarly think those are hurdles we couldn't overcome if we choose that path. As far as our other sports I could remind you we have already been in a league with programs like Louisville, Cincy, USF etc. Not the A-Sun so come off your mountain you built for yourself when talking about our other sports because you have no clue what will or will not happen. The only fact is we were playing with the likes of Louisville, Marquette, USF, Depaul, and Cincy two years ago in all sports and you were playing with the likes of Campbell.

We don't need a ECU-UCF whip it out and measure show down. I wouldn't be bragging too much on the other sports unless its soccer or baseball maybe. The last winless team in the nation, 0-25 North Florida, picked up a win tonight. I'm pretty sure ECU basketball now owns the longest losing streak among 336 D-1 teams at 20 games.

As for indy status, the early '90's and today are worlds apart when it comes to college football. ECU isn't going to get a national TV contract, that's just the situation. That isn't to say you wouldn't get on due to a certain week's opponent, but an actual contract would not be forthcoming. I agree with Jackson, there is no way ECU does this unless they have been guaranteed admission at a certain later date. The program would die otherwise. They are not Notre Dame, or anything close.

It must be true. I mean, ECU has totally dominated this conference since the restructure two years ago. What a friggin' joke. I'll help them pack.

The all knowing has spoken

I would think ECU might explore a move to the MAC. ECU would be able to play in the eastern time zone. CUSA has just Marshall and UCF in eastern time zone besides ECU 3 of 12.......MAC has 12 of 13 football members in eastern time zone.

As I've speculated before (just speculation) ECU, having been turned away by the Big East, and not being happy to be in a Tex-Mex dominated conference, might possibly be politicking and organzing a merger of the better MAC schools with the eastern CUSA schools to form a geographically tighter and more competitive grouping that eliminated bottom feeders such as Buffalo, etc. Perhaps something like this:

Bowling Green
Central Florida
Central Michigan
East Carolina
Marshall
Memphis
Miami OH
Northern Illinois
Ohio
Southern Miss
Temple
UAB

Tulane would go with the Tex-Mex crowd, which would probably add New Mexico State and perhaps New Mex.

Really, the mid majors are in need of some serious geographic rationalization. CUSA, Sun Belt, MWC, WAC are all over the board.

Marshall
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
Memphis
East Carolina
UAB
Soutthern Miss
Troy
Central Florida
Florida Atlantic

Wilkie01 Wrote:Marshall
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
Memphis
East Carolina
UAB
Soutthern Miss
Troy
Central Florida
Florida Atlantic

I'm starting to really hate college sports.