http://aacfootballfever.com/american-ath...-2014.html

It's a solid breakdown of how the American performed with the rest of the FBS conferences, numbers and all. Yes, this is my sports website (I'm not the author of this piece), and I'd appreciate ANY constructive feedback on how you feel we're doing.

Thanks!

Putting Florida or even VT on the same level as NCSU as a "middling" P5 is a little silly. State had 2 wins in the ACC. Flordia had 4 wins in the SEC.

(01-19-2015 12:57 PM)GoCats8 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/american-ath...-2014.html

It's a solid breakdown of how the American performed with the rest of the FBS conferences, numbers and all. Yes, this is my sports website (I'm not the author of this piece), and I'd appreciate ANY constructive feedback on how you feel we're doing.

Thanks!

i havent really looked so I dont know the answer

the p5 is just a money payout designation. here is my point, i think.

alabama and vanderbilt are miles apart but part of the same group.

temple beating vandy is considered a p5 win, but that really means nothing.

it seems that top level money schools often play the worst of the non money schools. this skews the whole foundation of the argument.

reverse the situation, top non money teams playing the worst money schools.

the whole p5/g5/conference narrative is one used by espn to make people fans of conferences rather than schools and generate interest and viewing. no longer are you an indiana fan or a wake forest fan or an iowa state fan. you are a big ten fan or an acc fan or a big12 fan. tune in and see your conference beat the other conference.

so far it seems to be working and people are being duped, exceptions exist. i doubt michigan fans wanted ohio state to beat alabama for conference pride.

i just dont think that the p5/g5 thing holds a lot of weight. its just a extension of the transitive property fallacy

vatech beat ohio state...so thats one win for vatech agains the national champs

ecu beat va tech. 1 win against the p5

memphis lost to ucla on the road by 1 score...1 loss against the p5

does this really mean an all p5 record vs the g5 means anything? i dont know.

big money schools dont wanna play non money schools that can beat them, i think this is all that the argument proves.

the same thing can be said within conferences. florida state walks through the acc then gets blown out by oregon. florida state is surely not as bad as they were that night and oregon is not as good.

too many variables to pigeon hole teams and conferences.

a couple of things do ring true, imo.

1) there are more good high school athletes than the big money conferences can absorb

2) a well coached team can beat a team with superior talent.

the only way the money conferences can kill everyone else is by raising the scholarship limits and refusing to play schools outside of the money club. they know and are working towards this goal

ecu blowing out unc just does not fit the marketing model they are selling, so the system has to be manipulated even further.

Khan nailed it.

(01-20-2015 01:57 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 12:57 PM)GoCats8 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/american-ath...-2014.html

It's a solid breakdown of how the American performed with the rest of the FBS conferences, numbers and all. Yes, this is my sports website (I'm not the author of this piece), and I'd appreciate ANY constructive feedback on how you feel we're doing.

Thanks!

i havent really looked so I dont know the answer

the p5 is just a money payout designation. here is my point, i think.

alabama and vanderbilt are miles apart but part of the same group.

temple beating vandy is considered a p5 win, but that really means nothing.

it seems that top level money schools often play the worst of the non money schools. this skews the whole foundation of the argument.

reverse the situation, top non money teams playing the worst money schools.

the whole p5/g5/conference narrative is one used by espn to make people fans of conferences rather than schools and generate interest and viewing. no longer are you an indiana fan or a wake forest fan or an iowa state fan. you are a big ten fan or an acc fan or a big12 fan. tune in and see your conference beat the other conference.

so far it seems to be working and people are being duped, exceptions exist. i doubt michigan fans wanted ohio state to beat alabama for conference pride.

i just dont think that the p5/g5 thing holds a lot of weight. its just a extension of the transitive property fallacy

vatech beat ohio state...so thats one win for vatech agains the national champs

ecu beat va tech. 1 win against the p5

memphis lost to ucla on the road by 1 score...1 loss against the p5

does this really mean an all p5 record vs the g5 means anything? i dont know.

big money schools dont wanna play non money schools that can beat them, i think this is all that the argument proves.

the same thing can be said within conferences. florida state walks through the acc then gets blown out by oregon. florida state is surely not as bad as they were that night and oregon is not as good.

too many variables to pigeon hole teams and conferences.

a couple of things do ring true, imo.

1) there are more good high school athletes than the big money conferences can absorb

2) a well coached team can beat a team with superior talent.

the only way the money conferences can kill everyone else is by raising the scholarship limits and refusing to play schools outside of the money club. they know and are working towards this goal

ecu blowing out unc just does not fit the marketing model they are selling, so the system has to be manipulated even further.

Great post Shere

It may mean nothing to you, but beating an SEC school is a big deal for us, thank you very much.

Bowl games do not define a team (or conference's) success. Half the bowl teams won and half lost - that's all. Aside from the championship games, the bowls were just a reward for a good season.

(01-20-2015 12:28 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  It may mean nothing to you, but beating an SEC school is a big deal for us, thank you very much.

Nah. Didn't mean it like that. A win is a win. I just didn't consider it an upset. Temple outa beat vandy whether they call themselves sec, p5 or afc east.

(01-20-2015 01:11 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Bowl games do not define a team (or conference's) success. Half the bowl teams won and half lost - that's all. Aside from the championship games, the bowls were just a reward for a good season.

Agree. Quite frankly I find wins/losses during the regular season to be much more defining. After watching CFB for 30+ years it has been my experience that many coaches/teams often "mail in" the bowl game for one reason or the other. Anymore it seems like half the schools are not happy with the bowl game/opponent they drew and you can tell by watching them on the field. Does any bowl game matter anymore other than the playoffs?

(01-20-2015 01:11 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Bowl games do not define a team (or conference's) success. Half the bowl teams won and half lost - that's all. Aside from the championship games, the bowls were just a reward for a good season.

Not going to one matters

(01-19-2015 12:57 PM)GoCats8 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/american-ath...-2014.html

It's a solid breakdown of how the American performed with the rest of the FBS conferences, numbers and all. Yes, this is my sports website (I'm not the author of this piece), and I'd appreciate ANY constructive feedback on how you feel we're doing.

Thanks!

Great job. Enjoyed the read,