(01-15-2015 03:18 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I always thought Tulane should have reviewed line by line all documents between Tulane and the SEC where it agreed to leave the SEC and see if it can find any defects in the documents that would nullify its removal. Vandy was exceptionally smart to remain in the SEC. How many millions of dollars distributed to each SEC team yearly?

Tulane did at least get a little revenge by coming to Vandy in the late 70s or early 80's (if memory serves) and BEATING THE DORES! I was there and can bear witness to the fact that Vanderbilt fans were devastated that the Green Wave could come to Dudley Field and ruin their image of themselves as a seemingly competitive SEC TEAM!

N Ot this thread again ugh

(01-17-2015 01:05 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 03:18 PM)Savacool Wrote:  I always thought Tulane should have reviewed line by line all documents between Tulane and the SEC where it agreed to leave the SEC and see if it can find any defects in the documents that would nullify its removal. Vandy was exceptionally smart to remain in the SEC. How many millions of dollars distributed to each SEC team yearly?

Tulane did at least get a little revenge by coming to Vandy in the late 70s or early 80's (if memory serves) and BEATING THE DORES! I was there and can bear witness to the fact that Vanderbilt fans were devastated that the Green Wave could come to Dudley Field and ruin their image of themselves as a seemingly competitive SEC TEAM!

Vandy. We made them quit playing us.

We were 1-10 beat a 1-10 vandy by one point. I think it damaged their genetic code for several generations


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(01-17-2015 01:05 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Tulane did at least get a little revenge by coming to Vandy in the late 70s or early 80's (if memory serves) and BEATING THE DORES! I was there and can bear witness to the fact that Vanderbilt fans were devastated that the Green Wave could come to Dudley Field and ruin their image of themselves as a seemingly competitive SEC TEAM!

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We played them every year until the mid 1980s when the Brown Bros decided to stop the series so they wouldn't have to play each other. We've probably won 2/3 against Vandy.
The serious consequences of leaving the SEC really weren't felt until the CFA lawsuit in the early 1980s. Even after we left the SEC, we still played essentially 4 SEC teams every year (LSU, Vandy, G Tech and one other - G Tech wasn't SEC but they beat us worse than LSU or Alabama had over the years); we'd play the eastern Indys (BC, Miami, PITT) and then an SWC team. Once the Metro started, we started playing Memphis every year, and then USM and then Lou or Cincy on occasion. We were okay until the mid 1980s.

We are 28 - 17 - 3 vs Vandy.

I wonder if we would have left the SEC if GA Tech didn't.

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(01-15-2015 01:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  William and Mary
Washington and Lee

How about that school in Tennessee...Sewanee. Aren't they also considered "Southern Ivy"?

Yes, but they left major collegiate athletics very early on and are Div III (probably why they left them out)

They did have one team that was national championship worthy & they were in the SEC once as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1899_Sewane...tball_team

This included a six-day period from November 9 to 14 of 1899 which is widely regarded as the greatest road trip in college football history. Known as the "Iron Men," with just 13 men they had a six-day road trip with five shutout wins over Texas A&M; Texas; Tulane; LSU; and Ole Miss. It is recalled memorably with the phrase "...and on the seventh day they rested."

The victory over John Heisman's Auburn club is the only game that they allowed any points all season (10).

Former Penn State coach Joe Paterno once said "While there are some who would swear to the contrary, I did not see the 1899 Sewanee football team play in person. Winning five road games in six days, all by shutout scores, has to be one of the most staggering achievements in the history of the sport."

Great find. Until I change my mind...this is now my all-time greatest football team :-)

Many times when "greatest college football team of all time" discussions come up, I'll bring up that Sewanee team and that very wiki page. As big of a Memphis fan as I am, that's my favorite football team of all time. My father must have told me the story of that road (train) trip 50 times as a kid. The only thing that he was mistaken about was that his version always only had 12 players rather than 13 that most documents have.

If you're ever in that area, at the base of the flagpole at their stadium there is a plaque that honors that team and 3 or 4 more plaques for other good teams. You can look at that old stadium and see each expansion in the age of the stone used. I bet that place didn't seat any more than 50-100 when that team played. Visiting that stadium is like turning back the college athletics' clock 100 years. It's really a neat place to visit and it would be a great place to go to college.....except I understand that drug us is very, very high.....even for university campus life.

(01-15-2015 12:29 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Magnolia Conference[edit]
The effort to create a Southern athletic conference originated during the 1950s. Harvie Branscomb, then-chancellor at Vanderbilt University, originally attempted to establish a rivalry between Vanderbilt and traditional Ivy League schools to foster relationships with academically-oriented schools. The school followed through on this effort and played a game against Yale in October 1948. However, after the Vanderbilt Commodores shut out the Yale Bulldogs, 35-0, Yale said they no longer wanted to play Vanderbilt. This caused Branscomb to call a meeting with the presidents of other Southern private universities in the late 1950s — Southern Methodist University (SMU), Rice University, Duke University, and Tulane University — where Branscomb suggested they try to establish a new sports conference where small, academically inclined private schools could compete.[1]

In the early 1960s, the idea for the "Magnolia Conference" gained popularity. In 1963, Tulane was frustrated by its enabling competition notwithstanding within the Southeastern Conference schools since many of the schools had lower academic expectations for football and they considered withdrawing from the SEC to compete with schools with similar aims.[2] According to the Rice Thresher, the era was a time when "the academic disparity between show-me-the-money schools and the schools less inclined to compromise academics was just beginning to become more evident."[citation needed] The "Magnolia Conference" had the vision to "maintain high-end Division I budgets and schedules, while avoiding some of the crasser extremes of the big business of college sports". However, the "Southern Ivy League" never got off the ground. Duke did not want to give up its rivalry with the University of North Carolina, and SMU and Rice were not willing to give up their share of the Cotton Bowl Classic income.[1]

Yale is just a bunch of weenies.

The UConn-Yale game was the biggest social event in Connecticut for decades. Yale almost always won, but it didn't matter. It was a huge party, something like Florida-Georgia in Jacksonville.

Then UConn started winning in 1982 (when I was there). Yale got mad and canceled the series. It doesn't surprise me they wouldn't play Vandy after getting stomped.

If we start to see college players getting paid big bucks (not just a small stipend), I bet the Magnolia Conference idea gets some attention.

I would like to see one of the top academic universities in the South back in the SEC,the University of the South, Sewanee! Great school! Excellent quality education!