What do you guys think?

Hopefully it doesn't

(01-14-2015 10:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  What do you guys think?

It's always hard to tell just what the NCAA will do. My question is .. If you make the exemption (for the Big XII) . . . And that's whom it would be for, then why have the rule requiring 12 conference members for a CG at all?
And if you do away with the rule, what can of worms does that open?

(01-14-2015 10:49 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  What do you guys think?

It's always hard to tell just what the NCAA will do. My question is .. If you make the exemption (for the Big XII) . . . And that's whom it would be for, then why have the rule requiring 12 conference members for a CG at all?
And if you do away with the rule, what can of worms does that open?

I agree that is the question the NCAA will wrestle with - and the reason IMO, the NCAA will not pass any rule that will allow less than 12 for a CCG.

Way too many new issues that would open up. If not 12 - then 10?, why not 9? what's the criteria? Do conferences start to dump schools? Is the G5 conference payout (currently focused on 12 school conferences) related? And should it be changed?, B10 and SEC would likely howl, etc.

(01-14-2015 10:49 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  What do you guys think?

It's always hard to tell just what the NCAA will do. My question is .. If you make the exemption (for the Big XII) . . . And that's whom it would be for, then why have the rule requiring 12 conference members for a CG at all?
And if you do away with the rule, what can of worms does that open?

If deregulation happens, what's to stop the P5 from wanting to be setup to have two champions, one from each division that never play each other, to maximize opportunities for the playoff? Each division would act as a "conference." And don't be naive, the ACC already wants to do this.

We can't compete for 4 spots with 5 P5 conferences. Even if the playoff went to 8 teams we wouldn't be able to compete for a spot if we had to compete against 9 P5 conferences. And as you can see, the Big 12 is still disadvantaged and would still expand since 5 in a division wouldn't work well for split divisions.

SEC East
SEC West
ACC Atlantic
ACC Coastal
PAC 12 North
PAC 12 South
Big Ten East
Big Ten West
Big 12

I would like it to happen just for the sake of the SBC getting to have one without adding members that aren't quite ready yet. We will not have to worry about any of our teams getting in the playoff with it at four teams anyways. If (when) the playoffs move to 8 it will be critical that we have a CCG.

(01-14-2015 10:49 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  What do you guys think?

It's always hard to tell just what the NCAA will do. My question is .. If you make the exemption (for the Big XII) . . . And that's whom it would be for, then why have the rule requiring 12 conference members for a CG at all?
And if you do away with the rule, what can of worms does that open?

The Big 12 wants the option to have a CCG. Since there is a risk-reward with a CCG, the Big 12 just wants a CCG when it might be beneficial. This wouldn't be a concern for the Big 12 if we had an eight team playoff system with auto bids for P5 conference winners.

The same with the ACC. They want to put the two best teams in a CCG, not necessarily the two division winners. Anything that helps get an ACC team in the four team playoff. If we had an eight team playoff, they would just have a CCG with division winners.

I think the NCAA should say "no" to this change, but I don't see it opening up a can of worms. I think they have no desire to go to an eight team playoff any time soon. The NCAA is a conservative organization and change comes slowly. I think the NCAA and the University Presidents will leave this four team playoff system in place for the next decade.

I'll take the under on expansion above 4 by 2025.

I do not see the SEC, PAC 12 and Big Ten helping B12 out of their dilemma.

(01-15-2015 02:48 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:49 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  What do you guys think?

It's always hard to tell just what the NCAA will do. My question is .. If you make the exemption (for the Big XII) . . . And that's whom it would be for, then why have the rule requiring 12 conference members for a CG at all?
And if you do away with the rule, what can of worms does that open?

The Big 12 wants the option to have a CCG. Since there is a risk-reward with a CCG, the Big 12 just wants a CCG when it might be beneficial. This wouldn't be a concern for the Big 12 if we had an eight team playoff system with auto bids for P5 conference winners.

The same with the ACC. They want to put the two best teams in a CCG, not necessarily the two division winners. Anything that helps get an ACC team in the four team playoff. If we had an eight team playoff, they would just have a CCG with division winners.

I think the NCAA should say "no" to this change, but I don't see it opening up a can of worms. I think they have no desire to go to an eight team playoff any time soon. The NCAA is a conservative organization and change comes slowly. I think the NCAA and the University Presidents will leave this four team playoff system in place for the next decade.

Does the NCAA have any say on the FBS CFB Playoffs?

"Who runs the College Football Playoff?

The College Football Playoff is run by the FBS conferences. All 10 conferences, as well as the FBS Independents, are now members of the new entity – CFP Administration, LLC. These conferences manage the semifinal games, as well as the College Football Playoff National Championship. A Board of Managers, Management Committee, Counsel and College Football Playoff staff also assist in the execution of the playoff."

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/fr...-questions

(01-15-2015 03:01 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 02:48 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:49 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 10:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  What do you guys think?

It's always hard to tell just what the NCAA will do. My question is .. If you make the exemption (for the Big XII) . . . And that's whom it would be for, then why have the rule requiring 12 conference members for a CG at all?
And if you do away with the rule, what can of worms does that open?

The Big 12 wants the option to have a CCG. Since there is a risk-reward with a CCG, the Big 12 just wants a CCG when it might be beneficial. This wouldn't be a concern for the Big 12 if we had an eight team playoff system with auto bids for P5 conference winners.

The same with the ACC. They want to put the two best teams in a CCG, not necessarily the two division winners. Anything that helps get an ACC team in the four team playoff. If we had an eight team playoff, they would just have a CCG with division winners.

I think the NCAA should say "no" to this change, but I don't see it opening up a can of worms. I think they have no desire to go to an eight team playoff any time soon. The NCAA is a conservative organization and change comes slowly. I think the NCAA and the University Presidents will leave this four team playoff system in place for the next decade.

Does the NCAA have any say on the FBS CFB Playoffs?

"Who runs the College Football Playoff?

The College Football Playoff is run by the FBS conferences. All 10 conferences, as well as the FBS Independents, are now members of the new entity – CFP Administration, LLC. These conferences manage the semifinal games, as well as the College Football Playoff National Championship. A Board of Managers, Management Committee, Counsel and College Football Playoff staff also assist in the execution of the playoff."

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/fr...-questions

If the NCAA had any control of FBS it would be a much larger playoff (NCAA runs a 24 seed in FCS).

Ohio State is also the only FBS team to win a National Championship.

The path to playoffs for G5 is through the OOC and undefeated conference play. Every G5 has the opportunity to go undefeated and win a Big Bowl. Doing that consistently will eventually earn a playoff spot. If a G5 can't do that, it doesn't really deserve to be there anyway, does it?