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Going on now.

I guess the biggest news maker so far has been Chevy's announcement of the Bolt, a 200 mile EV for $30,000.
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I want the new CTS-V, in red.
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I want a Colorado ZR2 diesel 4x4 crew cab in black.
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(01-13-2015 02:36 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Going on now.

I guess the biggest news maker so far has been Chevy's announcement of the Bolt, a 200 mile EV for $30,000.

Transportation dept is going to have difficult time coming up with revenues for all their roads and bridges
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Other big-ish news was the car of the year, the VW Golf, some models starting under 18 grand. Also gets 40 +- mpg, time to raise the gas tax!

Gotta pay those SS checks somehow...
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(01-13-2015 03:15 PM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  
(01-13-2015 02:36 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Going on now.

I guess the biggest news maker so far has been Chevy's announcement of the Bolt, a 200 mile EV for $30,000.

Transportation dept is going to have difficult time coming up with revenues for all their roads and bridges

Nah, govts will just raise the gas tax, like the one in VA just did.
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(01-13-2015 02:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I want the new CTS-V, in red.

Hilarious. I was just thinking of pulling up that old "what car do you want" thread and posting how the new CTS-V has vaulted to the top of my list.

Except mine would be white. Red is just a little too much on a car that is this hot hot hot.
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(01-13-2015 03:35 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Other big-ish news was the car of the year, the VW Golf, some models starting under 18 grand. Also gets 40 +- mpg, time to raise the gas tax!

Gotta pay those SS checks somehow...

I get 38 mpg city/42 mpg highway in my (gas engine) Nissan Sentra. No hybrid, no diesel, etc.
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2015 Race Red Mustang GT 5.0 Coyote for Me!
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can't believe nobody brought this up

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The new GT is cool. I am not a huge fan though because the name is a tribute. The new car has moved past that. I figured they would have given it a new name.

As for the car, easily the coolest car unveiled.
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How about the REALISTIC cars you want. Nobody in here is getting a Ford GT. And anybody who has actually worked blue collar for a living would have to admit that even if they fell into that kind of money, the wild impracticality of it would piss them off at some level.

I'm talking workin class heroes here.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata. This is the last hurrah of the purely Mazda Miatas. The next gen platform is a joint venture with Fiat-Chrysler. Which means you can in the near future get a Mazda MX-5 ... but with body work and trim as a Fiat Abarth Spider. YES PLEASE. Even if this is a step down from the formerly rumored MX-5 dressed up and sold as an Alfa Romeo.

[Image: 2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-live-photos_100479179_h.jpg]



2016 MAZDASPEED3. 300 hp. Turbocharged SKYACTIV. All wheel drive. For VW Golf money. With a hatchback. If you need a four seater car at $30K or less, you're a fool if you don't get this.

[Image: yWPWnIX.jpg]


2016 Ford Mustang GT350. Flat plane crank V8. Wooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaah. Somebody told Ford it might be nice to have firing balance on an engine that big. Who let a US car maker know of such voodoo witchcraft? What?! NO MORE LIVE REAR AXLE?? Adaptive dampers instead? Ford found out that roads have corners on them too???? This is the first American muscle car that is TRULY worthy of the iconic heritage that surrounds the names. And no, the Camaro Z/28 is disqualified because GM lifted that (actually VERY nice) suspension off the Vauxhaull VX-R in GM's Australian division. THAT'S CHEATING.

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I would list the Alfa Romeo 4C ... but they made the car so that you cannot access the engine for maintenance without removing body work or the engine. That's admittedly very VERY Alfa-ish. But admittedly HIDEOUSLY stupid given Alfa reliability.




Epic Fail List
- Every car from GM
- The Nissan trucks ... wtf were they thinking in the design department?
- The Acura NSX.... for taking a borderline supercar from the realm of feasible for John Q. Public to own one to $150,000.
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(01-14-2015 05:50 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  How about the REALISTIC cars you want. Nobody in here is getting a Ford GT. And anybody who has actually worked blue collar for a living would have to admit that even if they fell into that kind of money, the wild impracticality of it would piss them off at some level.

I'm talking workin class heroes here.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata. This is the last hurrah of the purely Mazda Miatas. The next gen platform is a joint venture with Fiat-Chrysler. Which means you can in the near future get a Mazda MX-5 ... but with body work and trim as a Fiat Abarth Spider. YES PLEASE. Even if this is a step down from the formerly rumored MX-5 dressed up and sold as an Alfa Romeo.

[Image: 2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-live-photos_100479179_h.jpg]



2016 MAZDASPEED3. 300 hp. Turbocharged SKYACTIV. All wheel drive. For VW Golf money. With a hatchback. If you need a four seater car at $30K or less, you're a fool if you don't get this.

[Image: yWPWnIX.jpg]


2016 Ford Mustang GT350. Flat plane crank V8. Wooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaah. Somebody told Ford it might be nice to have firing balance on an engine that big. Who let a US car maker know of such voodoo witchcraft? What?! NO MORE LIVE REAR AXLE?? Adaptive dampers instead? Ford found out that roads have corners on them too???? This is the first American muscle car that is TRULY worthy of the iconic heritage that surrounds the names. And no, the Camaro Z/28 is disqualified because GM lifted that (actually VERY nice) suspension off the Vauxhaull VX-R in GM's Australian division. THAT'S CHEATING.

[Image: dsc_0004.jpg]

I would list the Alfa Romeo 4C ... but they made the car so that you cannot access the engine for maintenance without removing body work or the engine. That's admittedly very VERY Alfa-ish. But admittedly HIDEOUSLY stupid given Alfa reliability.




Epic Fail List
- Every car from GM
- The Nissan trucks ... wtf were they thinking in the design department?
- The Acura NSX.... for taking a borderline supercar from the realm of feasible for John Q. Public to own one to $150,000.

OK,I'LL wait till 2016......................Shelby GT350 IT IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04-cheers Also Heard Ford Might have a New Mach1 by then also. Would look great next to My 1970 Mach1 04-rock
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(01-14-2015 06:01 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  OK,I'LL wait till 2016......................Shelby GT350 IT IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04-cheers Also Heard Ford Might have a New Mach1 by then also. Would look great next to My 1970 Mach1 04-rock

Nah ah ah. GT350 =/= GT350R. The R is the Shelby variant. And while it is a fast 'un ... I suspect you're looking at $80,000 for that Shelby. Minimum. I expect the "standard" GT350 to already have an un-Mustang like price tag sneaking up into the high $40,000's ... but that is at least within the fully extended reach of the blue collar people.
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(01-14-2015 06:13 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 06:01 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  OK,I'LL wait till 2016......................Shelby GT350 IT IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04-cheers Also Heard Ford Might have a New Mach1 by then also. Would look great next to My 1970 Mach1 04-rock

Nah ah ah. GT350 =/= GT350R. The R is the Shelby variant. And while it is a fast 'un ... I suspect you're looking at $80,000 for that Shelby. Minimum. I expect the "standard" GT350 to already have an un-Mustang like price tag sneaking up into the high $40,000's ... but that is at least within the fully extended reach of the blue collar people.

Then add in the Dealers Market Value Mark Up and pushing 100K. Even more if somehow Carroll could Sign it !!!!!!!!!! 03-lmfao
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(01-14-2015 05:50 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  How about the REALISTIC cars you want. Nobody in here is getting a Ford GT. And anybody who has actually worked blue collar for a living would have to admit that even if they fell into that kind of money, the wild impracticality of it would piss them off at some level.

I'm talking workin class heroes here.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata. This is the last hurrah of the purely Mazda Miatas. The next gen platform is a joint venture with Fiat-Chrysler. Which means you can in the near future get a Mazda MX-5 ... but with body work and trim as a Fiat Abarth Spider. YES PLEASE. Even if this is a step down from the formerly rumored MX-5 dressed up and sold as an Alfa Romeo.

[Image: 2016-mazda-mx-5-miata-live-photos_100479179_h.jpg]



2016 MAZDASPEED3. 300 hp. Turbocharged SKYACTIV. All wheel drive. For VW Golf money. With a hatchback. If you need a four seater car at $30K or less, you're a fool if you don't get this.

[Image: yWPWnIX.jpg]


2016 Ford Mustang GT350. Flat plane crank V8. Wooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaah. Somebody told Ford it might be nice to have firing balance on an engine that big. Who let a US car maker know of such voodoo witchcraft? What?! NO MORE LIVE REAR AXLE?? Adaptive dampers instead? Ford found out that roads have corners on them too???? This is the first American muscle car that is TRULY worthy of the iconic heritage that surrounds the names. And no, the Camaro Z/28 is disqualified because GM lifted that (actually VERY nice) suspension off the Vauxhaull VX-R in GM's Australian division. THAT'S CHEATING.

[Image: dsc_0004.jpg]

I would list the Alfa Romeo 4C ... but they made the car so that you cannot access the engine for maintenance without removing body work or the engine. That's admittedly very VERY Alfa-ish. But admittedly HIDEOUSLY stupid given Alfa reliability.




Epic Fail List
- Every car from GM
- The Nissan trucks ... wtf were they thinking in the design department?
- The Acura NSX.... for taking a borderline supercar from the realm of feasible for John Q. Public to own one to $150,000.

Meh. Looks like the same Miata that was released in 1990.

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I'll take this off-road beast in a crew cab for $35,000
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(01-14-2015 06:49 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Meh. Looks like the same Miata that was released in 1990.

I'll take this off-road beast in a crew cab for $35,000


When you achieve the perfect formula you don't go throwing it away. The Miata is the benchmark by which all Roadsters are judged ... even inferior ones by Germans costing 3 times more. BMW got close ONCE with a Z4 hard top. Then threw it away.

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Your truck seems to have a Government Motors tag. Would you like help finding a Raptor, or would you like to continue being foolish?
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(01-14-2015 07:20 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 06:49 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Meh. Looks like the same Miata that was released in 1990.

I'll take this off-road beast in a crew cab for $35,000


When you achieve the perfect formula you don't go throwing it away. The Miata is the benchmark by which all Roadsters are judged ... even inferior ones by Germans costing 3 times more. BMW got close ONCE with a Z4 hard top. Then threw it away.

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Your truck seems to have a Government Motors tag. Would you like help finding a Raptor, or would you like to continue being foolish?

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(01-14-2015 08:27 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  I swear by Mazda, owning one now after previously owning another. However, I really dislike the look of the '16 MAZDASPEED3. I liked the first gen as it was very understated (like the GTI), the second gen was simply goofy-looking, and the new one feels like the good-looking Mazda3 had aftermarket parts thrown on it by a ricer with bad taste. But maybe I'll change my mind when I see it in person.

On the other hand, the Miata is gorgeous. If I had enough cash to play with, I'd get it. One of my biggest regrets was not buying a one-owner, garaged, first-gen Miata with 90K for $1000 (had no space to store it).

I'll be at the DC Auto Show in a few weeks, so while not as prestigious, maybe I'll get to see some of these new cars soon.

I finally had my first ***ty experience with Mazda yesterday.

$5,000 to fix a transmission broken by a manufacturing defect that Mazda admits was a defect in their own service bulletin: TSB 05-016/06 ( http://www.6crew.com/files/tsb/05-016-06-1725.pdf ) It is *EXTREMELY* bull**** they quietly issued a service bulletin and not a recall. Next time Mazda wants to use an Aisin transmission, they need to make sure they're not installing a money pit in the drivetrain. It's hard to zoom-zoom when you can't shift in 4th, 5th, or 6th gears.

It's bad enough I am eating the cost of a transmission for what Mazda admits is their own manufacturing error ... made worse by ludicrous $95/hr labor charges for FIFTEEN HOURS labor and a pretty heavily gouged price on a remanufactured transmission at the dealership.

I've otherwise had good service at reasonable prices for normal maintenance in the past at said dealership ... but this may be the end of me servicing through dealerships. And yea, I'm pretty pissed off about that service bulletin right now.
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My Daughters Boyfriend just toasted the 5 speed in His KIA Soul a couple of days ago. it's a 2013 but They told Him it might not be covered under warranty if it was Something He did. That's why You have a Warranty on a New car. GM wouldn't stand by the Lower intake Gasket repairs on the 3400 v6 engines that failed and destroyed Thousands of Engines from the Dexcool antifreeze issue that They caused either.
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