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UC's Cronin trying not to go 'stir crazy'
UC's Cronin trying not to go 'stir crazy'
Tom Groeschen, tgroeschen@enquirer.com 4:24 p.m. EST January 11, 2015

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Mick Cronin talks to reporters during a press conference Friday. (Photo: The Enquirer/Meg Vogel)

Mick Cronin is still coming to grips with not coaching his University of Cincinnati men's basketball team, as the 2014-15 season continues without him.

Cronin on Saturday settled into his usual game-day routine, watching on television from his Cincinnati home as UC lost 62-56 at UConn.

"Obviously disappointed," Cronin said via telephone. "I thought we could have played better defense and won. We've got a really good team, we're just young."

Cronin has been sidelined since Dec. 20 for medical reasons, and he will not coach UC practices or games for the rest of the season.

UC (11-4 overall, 2-1 American Athletic Conference) is 4-2 since associate head coach Larry Davis took over for Cronin, who was sidelined by persistent headaches.

Cronin was diagnosed with a non-life threatening vascular condition known as arterial dissection. With rest and medication, doctors believe Cronin can return to the UC bench again next season.

Cronin meantime continues to work with the Bearcats behind the scenes, including game planning and recruiting. The headaches are gone.

"I feel great," Cronin said. "I just can't do any strenuous activity. I'm walking as much as I can, or else you go stir crazy. I'm used to expending so much energy."

Cronin's father, Hep Cronin, said jokingly that Mick has learned not to yell at the television. Mick said he mostly has been able to do that, but the coach in him naturally still gets excited.

"I have to stay analytical," Cronin said. "I need to have the blood pressure and mentality of an accountant for nine more weeks."

That is when doctors told Cronin that, if he follows their plan, he should not have to deal with this medical issue for the rest of his life.

The 43-year-old Cronin is in his ninth year as UC coach, with a Bearcats career record of 169-110 before he was sidelined. The Bearcats have reached the NCAA tournament in each of the last four seasons, and this year's team has played better recently.

Sophomore guard Troy Caupain, UC's second leading scorer at 9.5 points per game, said the Cronin influence remains strong.

"We still see him every day, he still tells us what to do," Caupain said. "Whatever the coaching staff does is through him. His voice is still spoken."

Cronin usually likes to work out to stay in fighting trim, but doctors have told him to cool it. For now.

"It is a huge adjustment, I will tell you," Cronin said. "I'd love to be able to get a hard workout in, to be honest with you. It'd help me sleep better, but I've got to eliminate strenuous activity.

"It's not draining to sit at my desk or meet with my staff or go to a high school game. I had to convince my doctors of that. I still do everything I did, right up until practice starts."

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/c.../21593087/
 
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We allowed 1 point per possession against UConn on the road. And that includes all the free throws at the end. And all their run outs off turnovers. I'm not gonna say our defense was great. But we scored like 6 points in the last 9 minutes of the game. I love Mick. But that game was not on our defense. It gets frustrating when he won't admit the obvious.
 
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(01-13-2015 12:34 AM)Overrated Wrote:  We allowed 1 point per possession against UConn on the road. And that includes all the free throws at the end. And all their run outs off turnovers. I'm not gonna say our defense was great. But we scored like 6 points in the last 9 minutes of the game. I love Mick. But that game was not on our defense. It gets frustrating when he won't admit the obvious.

Ditto that. Its alot tougher to hold a team like UConn to less than 56 points than it is to score 63 points.
 
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(01-13-2015 12:34 AM)Overrated Wrote:  We allowed 1 point per possession against UConn on the road. And that includes all the free throws at the end. And all their run outs off turnovers. I'm not gonna say our defense was great. But we scored like 6 points in the last 9 minutes of the game. I love Mick. But that game was not on our defense. It gets frustrating when he won't admit the obvious.

Agreed. We were 21/53 shooting (39%) for the game. If we would have hit 2-3 more shots we win the game. As the last poster noted, it is more more reasonable for us to expect to go 45% shooting vs. holding a team like UConn to below 56 pts-- at their own place, no less.
 
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Do wins and losers still go to Mick's record?
 
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Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.
 
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(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

Josh Pastner disagrees.
 
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(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

I heard him say recently that he is still not allowed to fly.

It is a long drive to NYC to recruit but I wouldn't put it past him.
 
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(01-14-2015 09:48 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

Josh Pastner disagrees.

That's the exception, not the rule. I'll bet John Calipari, Mike Krezysweski, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and a whole host of others disagrees with you.
 
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(01-14-2015 12:13 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:48 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

Josh Pastner disagrees.

That's the exception, not the rule. I'll bet John Calipari, Mike Krezysweski, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and a whole host of others disagrees with you.


Call me crazy, but I think all those guys you just mentioned can coach. I think recruiting is important but to say Bill Self, Pitino, Miller(the pompous douche that he is), or coach K can't coach or only get by on recruiting; is a bit nutty.
 
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RE: UC's Cronin trying not to go 'stir crazy'
(01-14-2015 12:13 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:48 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

Josh Pastner disagrees.

That's the exception, not the rule. I'll bet John Calipari, Mike Krezysweski, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and a whole host of others disagrees with you.

Good talent does not necessarily trump good coaching (Memphis), but if you already have good coaching like UC the obvious path to more success is improving the talent.

Unfortunately there are so many more factors involved in pulling in top talent than just how hard a coach recruits. I'm guessing Calipari and Coach K put forth about 2% of the effort that Mick does on the recruiting trail.
 
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(01-14-2015 12:29 PM)DMT Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 12:13 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:48 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

Josh Pastner disagrees.

That's the exception, not the rule. I'll bet John Calipari, Mike Krezysweski, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and a whole host of others disagrees with you.


Call me crazy, but I think all those guys you just mentioned can coach. I think recruiting is important but to say Bill Self, Pitino, Miller(the pompous douche that he is), or coach K can't coach or only get by on recruiting; is a bit nutty.

That is exactly the point Nacho was making, unless I am mistaken.
 
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(01-14-2015 12:55 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 12:29 PM)DMT Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 12:13 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:48 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Mick should be doing so much recruiting right now he doesn't have time to go stir crazy. He should spend extra available minute now on the recruiting trail bringing in better talent. Talent trumps coaching in college sports.

Josh Pastner disagrees.

That's the exception, not the rule. I'll bet John Calipari, Mike Krezysweski, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and a whole host of others disagrees with you.


Call me crazy, but I think all those guys you just mentioned can coach. I think recruiting is important but to say Bill Self, Pitino, Miller(the pompous douche that he is), or coach K can't coach or only get by on recruiting; is a bit nutty.

That is exactly the point Nacho was making, unless I am mistaken.

Recruiting is not coaching. If the argument is that Bill Self is a good coach because of recruiting, my answer is no. If that were the case, you wouldn't have people like Gregory at Georgia Tech or Pastner at Memphis.
Bill Self could beat you with MAC players. Same with Pitino, same with most everybody he just mentioned(save Calipari).
 
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(01-14-2015 01:04 PM)DMT Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 12:55 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 12:29 PM)DMT Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 12:13 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 09:48 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Josh Pastner disagrees.

That's the exception, not the rule. I'll bet John Calipari, Mike Krezysweski, Rick Pitino, Bill Self, Sean Miller and a whole host of others disagrees with you.


Call me crazy, but I think all those guys you just mentioned can coach. I think recruiting is important but to say Bill Self, Pitino, Miller(the pompous douche that he is), or coach K can't coach or only get by on recruiting; is a bit nutty.

That is exactly the point Nacho was making, unless I am mistaken.

Recruiting is not coaching. If the argument is that Bill Self is a good coach because of recruiting, my answer is no. If that were the case, you wouldn't have people like Gregory at Georgia Tech or Pastner at Memphis.
Bill Self could beat you with MAC players. Same with Pitino, same with most everybody he just mentioned(save Calipari).
Remember what they said about Bear Bryant, "He can take hisn and beat youren, or he can take youren and beat hisn".
 
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Nacho's original point was that talent/recruiting trumps coaching, not that coaching is completely irrelevant.

I feel that Huggins is a better coach than Cal (no comparison really), for example. How many times do you think WVU would beat UK, if they played five times?
 
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(01-14-2015 02:46 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Nacho's original point was that talent/recruiting trumps coaching, not that coaching is completely irrelevant.

I feel that Huggins is a better coach than Cal (no comparison really), for example. How many times do you think WVU would beat UK, if they played five times?

At Rupp? 0
Seeing as it took them double over time to beat Texas AtM though, I think don't think that's as lopsided as you seem to. Put them on a neutral court and I bet they struggle. Beyond that, that's the only exception. Nobody else has that kind of team this year. Regardless of how well they recruited. I don't think that makes his point at all.
 
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(01-14-2015 03:14 PM)DMT Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 02:46 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Nacho's original point was that talent/recruiting trumps coaching, not that coaching is completely irrelevant.

I feel that Huggins is a better coach than Cal (no comparison really), for example. How many times do you think WVU would beat UK, if they played five times?

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Seeing as it took them double over time to beat Texas AtM though, I think don't think that's as lopsided as you seem to. Put them on a neutral court and I bet they struggle. Beyond that, that's the only exception. Nobody else has that kind of team this year. Regardless of how well they recruited. I don't think that makes his point at all.

It's pretty lopsided this year. Kentucky would be a double digit favorite on a neutral court. But WVU could pull the upset.

Most people tend to underrate Calipari as a head coach though because they are so jealous of the recruits he is able to land.
 
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(01-13-2015 07:58 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(01-13-2015 12:34 AM)Overrated Wrote:  We allowed 1 point per possession against UConn on the road. And that includes all the free throws at the end. And all their run outs off turnovers. I'm not gonna say our defense was great. But we scored like 6 points in the last 9 minutes of the game. I love Mick. But that game was not on our defense. It gets frustrating when he won't admit the obvious.

Ditto that. Its alot tougher to hold a team like UConn to less than 56 points than it is to score 63 points.

To the original subject, I also find it disappointing, but hardly surprising, to hear of Mick blaming the defense over Saturday's game. What was the goal, exactly? To shut Boatright out? That is, pretty much, what Mick's statement prompts me to think.
 
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We missed a lot of open shots in that second half, partly due to our own inconsistencies; partly because UConn was as tough inside out as we were. It'll be war again, when we play them at fifth third.
 
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The great thing about this article was that is was picked up by my local paper, the Celina Daily Standard. UC gets a little more ink up here every year.
 
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