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Question for PTJR
You might be the only one who would know the answer to this question, unless it would be LRAlum. Is it legal for a college team to give free admission tickets to high school basketball teams or players? I'd say no since if might affect recruiting. That might be something we'd want to watch out for when we start having school nights.

Back when I was in high school, the hogs would give high school teams free admission to LR games. They weren't selling out War Memorial then, and then it wasn't 53,000 seats either. Maybe the rules were different then.
01-12-2015 04:39 PM
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-12-2015 04:39 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  You might be the only one who would know the answer to this question, unless it would be LRAlum. Is it legal for a college team to give free admission tickets to high school basketball teams or players? I'd say no since if might affect recruiting. That might be something we'd want to watch out for when we start having school nights.

Back when I was in high school, the hogs would give high school teams free admission to LR games. They weren't selling out War Memorial then, and then it wasn't 53,000 seats either. Maybe the rules were different then.

I'll let PTJR give the definitive answer, but I would also say no. That's why they only give free tickets up to a certain age, before they can be considered recruitable athletes.
01-12-2015 04:44 PM
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-12-2015 04:44 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 04:39 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  You might be the only one who would know the answer to this question, unless it would be LRAlum. Is it legal for a college team to give free admission tickets to high school basketball teams or players? I'd say no since if might affect recruiting. That might be something we'd want to watch out for when we start having school nights.

Back when I was in high school, the hogs would give high school teams free admission to LR games. They weren't selling out War Memorial then, and then it wasn't 53,000 seats either. Maybe the rules were different then.

I'll let PTJR give the definitive answer, but I would also say no. That's why they only give free tickets up to a certain age, before they can be considered recruitable athletes.

That would be my guess too.
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-12-2015 04:39 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  You might be the only one who would know the answer to this question, unless it would be LRAlum. Is it legal for a college team to give free admission tickets to high school basketball teams or players? I'd say no since if might affect recruiting. That might be something we'd want to watch out for when we start having school nights.

Back when I was in high school, the hogs would give high school teams free admission to LR games. They weren't selling out War Memorial then, and then it wasn't 53,000 seats either. Maybe the rules were different then.

I don't know the answer to that question exactly, but I will ask. It might be legal since the kids would be providing their own transportation, etc. to the game and no benefit other than the ticket would be provided. As I said, I will ask, but I think unofficial unpaid visits to a campus are unlimited. There might be some age restriction though.
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RE: Question for PTJR
I suggested we do that at one time, and someone in the athletic department said we couldn't legally do that. I don't know the exact rule.
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I'm not 100% certain but as ptjr says a high school athlete can accept complimentary tickets to a game. This counts as an unofficial visit as long as there is no contact with the coaches, university representatives and boosters. I think it may be a limit but I'm sure ptjr source would know the rules for certain.
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High school kids cannot be given free tickets.
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-12-2015 07:40 PM)ez272 Wrote:  High school kids cannot be given free tickets.

ez272, are you sure about that? The reason I ask is because my uncle was a longtime high school coach in LA and this happened alot when he coach. He is retired now, so I was curious if this has changed and found according to the NCAA guidance, a high school student can have an unlimited number of unofficial visits as long as it is paid for by their parents and the student may receive 3 complimentary tickets to a game. See the linked document, starting on page 21. This was for the 2013-14 year, so it could have changed.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...s/CBSA.pdf
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RE: Question for PTJR
Google it. Once they enter the 9th grade (7th grade for mens basketball camps) they cannot receive special benefits.
01-13-2015 09:25 AM
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-13-2015 09:25 AM)ez272 Wrote:  Google it. Once they enter the 9th grade (7th grade for mens basketball camps) they cannot receive special benefits.

I don't believe an unofficial unpaid visit to campus is considered a special benefit even with admission to a home game. Like LR Alum, I think it is doable if done right. No hard tickets, everybody on a pass list, well documented, etc.
01-13-2015 11:21 AM
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-13-2015 11:21 AM)PTJR Wrote:  
(01-13-2015 09:25 AM)ez272 Wrote:  Google it. Once they enter the 9th grade (7th grade for mens basketball camps) they cannot receive special benefits.

I don't believe an unofficial unpaid visit to campus is considered a special benefit even with admission to a home game. Like LR Alum, I think it is doable if done right. No hard tickets, everybody on a pass list, well documented, etc.

As was told to me, they'd have to give a ticket to every student in the school. Can't just give special privileges to a basketball team who might have some potential college recruits. Just one more stupid NCAA rule.04-cheers
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RE: Question for PTJR
If the school is doing a school night they have to make available to everybody. However, a high school student can contact the university and say they are coming to see the school on their own dime and the university can provide them tickets. Complimentary tickets on unofficial visits are not considered special benefits as the NCAA publication states.
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RE: Question for PTJR
(01-13-2015 11:47 AM)LR Alum Wrote:  If the school is doing a school night they have to make available to everybody. However, a high school student can contact the university and say they are coming to see the school on their own dime and the university can provide them tickets. Complimentary tickets on unofficial visits are not considered special benefits as the NCAA publication states.

I think you are exactly right LR Alum. And I'm pretty sure the entire team, coaches, and even parents of team members could be included. However, if Outside really wants the answer from UALR's perspective, he should email Richard Turner as I believe he still handles compliance.
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RE: Question for PTJR
I was thinking of doing that, but I decided there is no need for me to worry about it , because they'll follow the correct procedures in giving tickets to school children anyway.
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RE: Question for PTJR
Yes. According to the 2014-2015 ncaa guide for college bound student athletes a recruit can receive 3 passes to a game if he is making an unofficial visit.
01-14-2015 09:07 AM
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