LOL


http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResu...Id=4594934

I can't emphasize enough that UK would lose handily. I know the 76ers are a really bad NBA team. But they are actually a pretty good defense. They just struggle on offense. They are playing against NBA defenses though. The difference between leagues can't be overstated. This discussion is so dumb.

Same with the Bengals vs. OSU in football in the 90's.

Wasn't there a recently traded NBA player who stated he hadn't played any defense in the last couple of years?

Oh, yeah. Rajon Rondo.

http://nesn.com/2015/01/rajon-rondo-admi...ore-trade/

If uKay can beat the dozers, does that mean Ole Miss could hang with them too? Or even beat them. I am pretty sure the sixers would smoke them. uKay has a bunch of guys that will get drafted, but all none of them are going to be superstars by any means. The only player on the team with that type of potential is Karl Towns who still isn't ath at level yet.

Does any one else get the feeling that the media and the NCAA have
pumped this team up so much that they almost can't allow them to fail. How hilarious would it be if they lost in the 2nd round. It just seems like that wouldn't be allowed, and the refs would have to take over that game to bail them out. It almost seems like that is what happened vs Ole Miss too. College bball needs to keep that train humming. The truth is they really haven't faced anyone who is a bad matchup for them. Kansas and Louisville are both poor shooting teams an played right into what ukay wanted. UCLA sucks majorly, and Texas was missing their best player and starting PG(they are also looking fairly mediocre as well). I think they could catch the wrong matchup early in the tourney, and potentially slip.

as always you have to pose the question to people who believe a college team would beat a pro team this way...

Me: How many pro players are on UK (or insert other college team)?
UK fan: six (or whatever number)
Me: Ok, how many pro players are on the 76er's ( or insert other pro team)?
UK fan: <dumfounded look on face>
Me: The whole team....all of them

(01-09-2015 08:04 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  as always you have to pose the question to people who believe a college team would beat a pro team this way...

Me: How many pro players are on UK (or insert other college team)?
UK fan: six (or whatever number)
Me: Ok, how many pro players are on the 76er's ( or insert other pro team)?
UK fan: <dumfounded look on face>
Me: The whole team....all of them

Like it! I may steal that at some point. The Wildcats have no chance. I always think of all the supposed stud players that leave college and are busts in the pros and how many great college players don't even sniff the NBA (Look at SK). Only a small percentage turn into stars. The Sixers may not be very good, but they are loaded with college stars and probably every one of them would start for the Wildcats (Take every Sixers player one at a time and add them to the UK roster and they probably start).

Plus you would bet pride would kick in and they would be focused to not get shown up by a college team and probably would blow their doors off. I'd be surprised if UK only lost by single digits in 1 of the 7 games. I'd expect double digit beat downs every time.

Better question: which team has the higher payroll?

On the right night I think UK could get them. Sixers would win at least 90% of the time. Sixers have a lot of players I am mildly surprised are even playing in the NBA. There is still a huge development gap between them and UK, but UK has the size, talent and athleticism to have a really good game and win. This is not the NFL where it'd be like Bama playing some FCS team.

(01-09-2015 09:16 AM)indycat Wrote:  Better question: which team has the higher payroll?

haha. I can guarantee you that UK wins that one. Sam Hinke is doing everything he can to keep the payroll below that of UK and the rest of the SEC.

(01-09-2015 06:49 AM)jarr Wrote:  Does any one else get the feeling that the media and the NCAA have
pumped this team up so much that they almost can't allow them to fail. How hilarious would it be if they lost in the 2nd round. It just seems like that wouldn't be allowed, and the refs would have to take over that game to bail them out. It almost seems like that is what happened vs Ole Miss too. College bball needs to keep that train humming. The truth is they really haven't faced anyone who is a bad matchup for them. Kansas and Louisville are both poor shooting teams an played right into what ukay wanted. UCLA sucks majorly, and Texas was missing their best player and starting PG(they are also looking fairly mediocre as well). I think they could catch the wrong matchup early in the tourney, and potentially slip.

It is what ESPN does - hype, hype hype.

It is a joke the 76ers would trash UK.

The only way a college team could have ANY shot at the worst NBA team is if they happened to have a once in blue moon talent and physical specimen like Lebron, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq etc AND a whole roster of decent future NBA talent.

UK is an amazing COLLEGE team because of their depth of talent relative to OTHER COLLEGE rosters. But there is no Lebron type player on UK's team. A lot of their players are going to be borderline NBA talent. Most will not make an NBA roster.

You can't put an 18 year old kid like Devin Booker or even Andrew Harrison on a mature, High level NBA scorer like Jason Richardson. Neither is as physically strong and mature and it is pretty likely that neither will EVER be as good.

(01-09-2015 10:52 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(01-09-2015 06:49 AM)jarr Wrote:  Does any one else get the feeling that the media and the NCAA have
pumped this team up so much that they almost can't allow them to fail. How hilarious would it be if they lost in the 2nd round. It just seems like that wouldn't be allowed, and the refs would have to take over that game to bail them out. It almost seems like that is what happened vs Ole Miss too. College bball needs to keep that train humming. The truth is they really haven't faced anyone who is a bad matchup for them. Kansas and Louisville are both poor shooting teams an played right into what ukay wanted. UCLA sucks majorly, and Texas was missing their best player and starting PG(they are also looking fairly mediocre as well). I think they could catch the wrong matchup early in the tourney, and potentially slip.

It is what ESPN does - hype, hype hype.

It is a joke the 76ers would trash UK.

The only way a college team could have ANY shot at the worst NBA team is if they happened to have a once in blue moon talent and physical specimen like Lebron, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq etc AND a whole roster of decent future NBA talent.

UK is an amazing COLLEGE team because of their depth of talent relative to OTHER COLLEGE rosters. But there is no Lebron type player on UK's team. A lot of their players are going to be borderline NBA talent. Most will not make an NBA roster.

You can't put an 18 year old kid like Devin Booker or even Andrew Harrison on a mature, High level NBA scorer like Jason Richardson. Neither is as physically strong and mature and it is pretty likely that neither will EVER be as good.

But you could put those guys on them next year, when they are in the NBA with Richardson?

I definitely think UK could win two or three games out of 10 against the 76ers. I don't think the talent gap is near as large as some are saying and like Mark said, this is not football, this is basketball where you only need 5 guys on the court and physical maturity is not near as important, even though I'd say most of the UK players are physically ready to play in the NBA tomorrow.

I really and truly believe that a team as good and deep as KY would get their collective asses handed to them 10 out of 10 times by any NBA team. The worst player on an NBA team would still be starting for KY. C'mon folks, use your heads.

While I am one of those who always believe the professional team would soundly thump the best of colleges teams, I think in some situations the college team could possibly beat a professional team. I think people are forgetting the ESPN Poll is asking whether UK could beat Philadelphia. Philadelphia-- not the Spurs, Hawks, or Heat. The Sixers are not a collection of players in their prime. According to this link I found the average age of the Sixer's roster is 23.4 years. I bet the average age of BYU's roster is pretty close to that number.

UK could certainly hold their own against the Sixers on any given night. Especially if the the Wildcats got hot or the Sixers couldn't by a bucket.

(01-09-2015 11:36 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(01-09-2015 10:52 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(01-09-2015 06:49 AM)jarr Wrote:  Does any one else get the feeling that the media and the NCAA have
pumped this team up so much that they almost can't allow them to fail. How hilarious would it be if they lost in the 2nd round. It just seems like that wouldn't be allowed, and the refs would have to take over that game to bail them out. It almost seems like that is what happened vs Ole Miss too. College bball needs to keep that train humming. The truth is they really haven't faced anyone who is a bad matchup for them. Kansas and Louisville are both poor shooting teams an played right into what ukay wanted. UCLA sucks majorly, and Texas was missing their best player and starting PG(they are also looking fairly mediocre as well). I think they could catch the wrong matchup early in the tourney, and potentially slip.

It is what ESPN does - hype, hype hype.

It is a joke the 76ers would trash UK.

The only way a college team could have ANY shot at the worst NBA team is if they happened to have a once in blue moon talent and physical specimen like Lebron, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq etc AND a whole roster of decent future NBA talent.

UK is an amazing COLLEGE team because of their depth of talent relative to OTHER COLLEGE rosters. But there is no Lebron type player on UK's team. A lot of their players are going to be borderline NBA talent. Most will not make an NBA roster.

You can't put an 18 year old kid like Devin Booker or even Andrew Harrison on a mature, High level NBA scorer like Jason Richardson. Neither is as physically strong and mature and it is pretty likely that neither will EVER be as good.

But you could put those guys on them next year, when they are in the NBA with Richardson?

I definitely think UK could win two or three games out of 10 against the 76ers. I don't think the talent gap is near as large as some are saying and like Mark said, this is not football, this is basketball where you only need 5 guys on the court and physical maturity is not near as important, even though I'd say most of the UK players are physically ready to play in the NBA tomorrow.

Do you know how poorly rookies do in the NBA as a whole? It is really pretty poor. It's rare you find more than 2 or 3 above average NBA players in a given class. Development is critical.

The difference in development is immense between Philly and UK. I saw this from Rob Dauster on twitter earlier in the season but it illustrated the point pretty well:

Jordan McRae was a first team All-SEC last year at Tennessee. He would surely start at UK if he was on their team this year. He couldn't even make Philly's roster.

This should not even be a discussion. I watching some Euroleague BB on the NBA channel a couple weeks ago, and the level of play was VASTLY higher than the best NCAA teams, and I imagine that even mediocre NBA ball is still a bit stronger than Euroleague.