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MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
@HuskieWire: #NIU football will play at Buffalo and Miami next season. Guessing the third crossover will be a home game against Ohio.
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...
2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 09:57 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...

2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?

Your first question can not be answered at this point. It would make sense if (for example) in 2015, Buffalo has a great season, BGSU is average, and Akron is horrible.

Cross-over schedules try to give each team in a division relatively similar strength of schedules. So look for the 2016 and 2017 Huskie schedules to feature a strong, average, and weak MAC East opponent, by the previous year's standards.

According to 2015 standings, you could classify the MAC East (minus UMass?) as follows.

BGSU 5-3 (strong)
Ohio 4-4 (strong)
Buffalo 3-4 (average)
Akron 3-5 (average)
Miami 2-6 (weak)
Kent 1-6 (weak)

Look at the 2015 Huskie schedule, for example. They play Ohio (strong), Buffalo (average), and Miami (weak). Of course, there is no guarantee that the 2015 Bobcats will be strong, and that Miamio will suck again. Huskies have been lucking out with easy cross-over SOS lately, but then again, had they ended up in a three-way tie for the West division in the last three years, their easy SOS could have kept them from going to Detroit.

Why do the Huskies get Miami and not Kent? Why Ohio instead of BG? I do not know. But I get the strong, average, weak schedule idea.
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 09:57 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...
2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?

Scheduling of crossover games by the MAC doesn't seem to follow any kind of logic or pattern. It definitely doesn't matter how long it's been since a team has played a crossover opponent at a particular venue (we haven't played Ohio in DeKalb since 2006).

As far as UMass, 2015 is their last season for football. Link
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
I'm pretty sure they just pick names out of a hat
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 12:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote:  I'm pretty sure they just pick names out of a hat

It is the MAC east. I'm not sure it matters too much. I just hope the hat is a stylish bowler. Or a menacing fedora.
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Called it!!
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 12:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 09:57 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...
2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?

Scheduling of crossover games by the MAC doesn't seem to follow any kind of logic or pattern. It definitely doesn't matter how long it's been since a team has played a crossover opponent at a particular venue (we haven't played Ohio in DeKalb since 2006).

As far as UMass, 2015 is their last season for football. Link

The Toledo/BGSU annual game messes up any kind of logical pattern.
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
Is it bad that I looked at the three at thought "Win, Win, Win"?

New year new teams, I know, but yeah..
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
Put this in perspective. Last time Ohio came to DeKalb for a football game:

Phil Horvath was NIU Quarterback
Garrett Wolfe was NIU Runningback
Doug Free was NIU Left Tackle
Larry English was a sophomore Defensive End
Yordon Center was under construction
Chessick Center was an idea
Chandler Harnish was a senior in high school
Jordan Lynch was a sophomore in high school
Drew Hare was in 7th grade
This year's recruiting class was in 4th grade
Dave Doeren had just become the LB coach at Wisconsin
Rod Carey was O-Line coach at Wisconsin-Stout
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
NIU starting line-up vs. Ohio on 9/9/2006:

QB - Phil Horvath
RB - Garrett Wolfe
WR - Jarret Carter
WR - Britt Davis
TE - Jake Nordin
TE - Brandon Davis
LT - Doug Free
LG - Chris Acevedo
C - Eddie Adamski
RG - Matt Rogers
RT - Jon Brost

DE - Ken West
DT - Brad Benson
DT - Alex Krutsch
DE - Larry English
OLB - Keenan Blalark
MLB - Tim McCarthy
OLB - Corey Hanson
CB - Alvah Hansbro
FS - Dustin Utschig
SS - Mark Reiter
CB - Adriel Hansbro

That my first game at Huskie Stadium as an NIU student and I don't remember half of the guys that started that game.
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
Anything on the home game?
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(01-08-2015 02:58 PM)7 Wrote:  Anything on the home game?

Ohio is confirmed to be out home game.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/01/2015-...opponents/

Home: Ball State, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Ohio
Away: Central Michigan, Toledo, Buffalo, Miami
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 01:26 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 12:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 09:57 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...
2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?

Scheduling of crossover games by the MAC doesn't seem to follow any kind of logic or pattern. It definitely doesn't matter how long it's been since a team has played a crossover opponent at a particular venue (we haven't played Ohio in DeKalb since 2006).

As far as UMass, 2015 is their last season for football. Link

The Toledo/BGSU annual game messes up any kind of logical pattern.

It does not have to. For the 2015 season, BG counts as a strong team for Toledo, so the MAC just has to find a weak and an average East team for Toledo to play.
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 03:01 PM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 01:26 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 12:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 09:57 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...
2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?

Scheduling of crossover games by the MAC doesn't seem to follow any kind of logic or pattern. It definitely doesn't matter how long it's been since a team has played a crossover opponent at a particular venue (we haven't played Ohio in DeKalb since 2006).

As far as UMass, 2015 is their last season for football. Link

The Toledo/BGSU annual game messes up any kind of logical pattern.

It does not have to. For the 2015 season, BG counts as a strong team for Toledo, so the MAC just has to find a weak and an average East team for Toledo to play.

I think it has more to do with the unbalanced divisions - East having 7 teams and West having 6.
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I wonder if the WMU game will be the Tuesday before thanksgiving again.
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(01-08-2015 03:03 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I wonder if the WMU game will be the Tuesday before thanksgiving again.

I think they're more likely to move that up in the MACtion schedule in early November. Wouldn't surprise me if we have EMU the last game instead.
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(01-08-2015 03:02 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  I think it has more to do with the unbalanced divisions - East having 7 teams and West having 6.

Which wont be an issue after this year. The issue is BGSU/Toledo annual game. That messes with any normal/logical cross divisional schedule like every other conference with divisions has.
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RE: MAC East Crossover Games - 2015
(01-08-2015 03:01 PM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 01:26 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 12:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 09:57 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Crossover for 10 seasons...
2006 vs Ohio at Miami vs Buffalo
2007 at Temple vs Kent St
2008 vs Miami vs BGSU at Kent St
2009 at Miami vs Akron at Ohio
2010 vs Temple vs Buffalo at Akron
2011 at Buffalo at BGSU vs Kent St
2012 vs UMASS at Akron vs Buffalo
2013 at UMASS at Kent St vs Akron
2014 vs Kent St vs Miami at Ohio
2015 vs Ohio at Miami at Buffalo


What would make sense in the future...
2016 vs Buffalo vs BGSU at Akron
2017 at BGSU at Kent St vs Akron

Is UMASS out of the MAC this year or next?

Scheduling of crossover games by the MAC doesn't seem to follow any kind of logic or pattern. It definitely doesn't matter how long it's been since a team has played a crossover opponent at a particular venue (we haven't played Ohio in DeKalb since 2006).

As far as UMass, 2015 is their last season for football. Link

The Toledo/BGSU annual game messes up any kind of logical pattern.

It does not have to. For the 2015 season, BG counts as a strong team for Toledo, so the MAC just has to find a weak and an average East team for Toledo to play.

I don't think your theory is supported by past scheduling at all. Example - in 2012, our crossover opponents were Buffalo, Akron and UMass. MAC records for 2011 for those three were: Buffalo 2-6, Akron 0-8 and UMass none (1st year in the MAC). Where's the strong or even average team in that group?
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(01-08-2015 03:04 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 03:03 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I wonder if the WMU game will be the Tuesday before thanksgiving again.

I think they're more likely to move that up in the MACtion schedule in early November. Wouldn't surprise me if we have EMU the last game instead.

ESPN is not going to waste a MACtion pick on an EMU game.

NIU hosts the IHSA this year so if we have a home game the week of thanksgiving then it must be on Tuesday night or maybe Wednesday night.
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