(01-07-2015 01:45 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: This thread reads like a conservative talking head ad.
It is NOT the fault of liberals or Socialists that this type of thing happens. It is the fault of Islam being a religion that has stayed true to its form of "dark ages" beliefs, with many millions adhering to this quite frankly unacceptable way of life. It's hard to justify dictating the way things "should be" to any specific group of people, but when it comes down to it the answer is simple. Europe just has to stop letting these people do whatever they wish. They need extreme anti-extremism laws to stamp out this type of thing.
You folks may be shocked to read the Reddit comments on the attack. All of the top comments are expressions like "Religion of peace. Don't need to guess who carried out this attack", "Let's protest by drawing, pick a day, they can't kill us all".
"I am not afraid of retaliation. I have no kids, no wife, no car, no credit. It perhaps sounds a bit pompous, but I prefer to die standing than living on my knees."
I'll be honest, I was expecting a bunch of SJW **** on reddit today.
The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), also known as the Lord's Resistance Movement, is a militant movement which is "Christianist," extremist Christian,[6] acting as a new religious movement or a cult which operated in northern Uganda and South Sudan. Originally known as the United Holy Salvation Army and Uganda Christian Army/Movement, its stated goals include ruling Uganda according to the Ten Commandments.[7]
he is visited by a multinational host of 13 spirits, including a Chinese phantom.[2] Ideologically, the group is a syncretic mix of mysticism, Acholi nationalism, Islam, and Christian fundamentalism, and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition.[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19]
(01-07-2015 08:51 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: That peaceful religion that Obama and the libs love so much doing what they do best, murdering innocent people. Obama will come out today and blame Israel for this attack.
Ben Affleck is writing a movie about how the killers were actually Mossad agents.
Not Ben Afflect, but you were on the right track...
Pakistani Journalist Blames Paris Terror Attack On Jews…
The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), also known as the Lord's Resistance Movement, is a militant movement which is "Christianist," extremist Christian,[6] acting as a new religious movement or a cult which operated in northern Uganda and South Sudan. Originally known as the United Holy Salvation Army and Uganda Christian Army/Movement, its stated goals include ruling Uganda according to the Ten Commandments.[7]
he is visited by a multinational host of 13 spirits, including a Chinese phantom.[2] Ideologically, the group is a syncretic mix of mysticism, Acholi nationalism, Islam, and Christian fundamentalism, and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition.[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19]
it's pretty obvious that that group focuses most of their beliefs on christianity. Their original name had the word christian in it and they paint crosses on the chests of their child soldiers to protect them in battle.
(01-07-2015 10:29 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: - The developments in the EU and Stockholm in particular have turned me off of open borders. I'm still for high amounts of legal immigration, but it must be those willing to assimilate.
Ah, I see that the PC, "progressive" agenda is promptly collapsing onto itself this morning.
Interesting.
Yea, I'm a regular uber-PC Woodrow Wilson over here.
ummechengr Wrote:"When more 'commoners' started being able to read (and had access to their own Bibles), Christianity got liberal real quick. People could interpret for themselves what the Bible said and didn't rely on teachers as much."
Yes, how dare people make up their own minds...we must be told what everything means and really says, lol
Baaaah
Maybe I didn't communicate my thoughts as effectively as I thought I had. What I'm saying is exactly what you're saying....that people should be able to make up their own minds, and to not be told what everything means and really says by 'leaders' that are the only ones allowed to read/teach/interpret.
So, why did Christianity change? The bible can and was interpreted in ways that justified murder and torture in the past, just like the Koran. Some of the offenses were simply theories or actions against religious dogma, not making fun of it. But now it appears to be mostly the Koran that is used to justify murder like this. Why has Islam not changed? Is it easier to interpret the Koran in ways that justify or even require violence? I have not read the Koran, so I don't know.
Associated Press Defends Censoring Mohammed Cartoons While Selling “Piss Christ” Pics…
Gee, you don't think the left favors Muslims do you?
Quote: “None of the images distributed by AP showed cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad,” an Associated Press spokesman said, according to the Daily Beast. “It’s been our policy for years that we refrain from moving deliberately provocative images.” […]
But in case you want to admire the “work of art” from three decades ago that consisted of a photograph of a crucifix in a vat of the photographer’s urine, the AP will sell it to you.
Quote:Howard Dean—that celebrated scholar of Islam—has weighed in on today’s murderous rampage in Paris and declared that he refuses to call the shooters in this and similar cases “Muslim terrorists.”
According to Dean, the disregard for the lives of others that these terrorists display “is not what the Koran says.” Dean’s denial of the obvious puts him in the company of many liberals, most notably including President Obama, who after the beheading of James Foley declared that ISIS “speaks for no religion.”
And if that putz Dean thinks “is not what the Koran says.”, dumb*** needs to read it.
Would you call Christian terrorists "Christians" for carrying out acts in the name of Jesus and the Bible? Do you follow what the Bible says? Do you believe that if a man rapes a woman, he should pay $50 to her father then marry her without the chance of divorce, as God has commanded in the Bible?
Don't act like Christianity and Islam do not share the same type of 'commands' by their Gods. The difference is not that Christianity as a religion is 'better' per se than Islam, it is that Christians have moved out of the Dark Ages and learned what is right and wrong and interpreted their Holy Book as such but the Muslims have generally not.
While you make a good point, its not entirely true. The dark ages was a historical period purely isolated to western europe. Around the time Europe was in its dark age, Islam/Middle east was experiencing its 'Golden Age' where they experienced great economic prosperity which gave them the luxuries to make advancements in various field such as medicine, math, architecture, philosophy, literature, etc.
The point is all this crap is cyclical, societies rise up and become great and prosperous then collapse due to war, famine, disease, etc.
(01-07-2015 04:23 PM)NIU007 Wrote: So, why did Christianity change? The bible can and was interpreted in ways that justified murder and torture in the past, just like the Koran. Some of the offenses were simply theories or actions against religious dogma, not making fun of it. But now it appears to be mostly the Koran that is used to justify murder like this. Why has Islam not changed? Is it easier to interpret the Koran in ways that justify or even require violence? I have not read the Koran, so I don't know.
Poverty. Lack of education.
Easy to convince someone with nothing to kill themselves when they'll be rewarded with riches and virgins in the next life.
Not making excuses for it though. Islam is a scourge on humanity. I can't even have much respect for Muslims that would never do something like this because they are quick to make excuses rather than condemning the act. Leaders from far away will make veiled condemnations but the average person, especially in the middle east, won't.