(01-06-2015 11:29 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 07:45 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 06:53 PM)MJY Wrote:  Measuring the costs (to the victors - probably less than 200 men total) against the benefits gained, the Horseshoe Bend/New Orleans/San Jacinto trilogy have to be three of the most "valuable" military victories in world history.

I wonder if there is anyone who was in all three of those battles?

There was at least one famous person who was in all three. Any guesses?

Santa Anna?

(01-06-2015 11:29 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 07:45 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 06:53 PM)MJY Wrote:  Measuring the costs (to the victors - probably less than 200 men total) against the benefits gained, the Horseshoe Bend/New Orleans/San Jacinto trilogy have to be three of the most "valuable" military victories in world history.

I wonder if there is anyone who was in all three of those battles?

There was at least one famous person who was in all three. Any guesses?

My gut says Sam Houston. I know for sure he served under Gen. Jackson around that time, but if memory serves, he was injured at Horseshoe Bend, and I don't know if he returned for New Orleans.

(01-06-2015 11:38 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 11:29 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 07:45 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 06:53 PM)MJY Wrote:  Measuring the costs (to the victors - probably less than 200 men total) against the benefits gained, the Horseshoe Bend/New Orleans/San Jacinto trilogy have to be three of the most "valuable" military victories in world history.

I wonder if there is anyone who was in all three of those battles?

There was at least one famous person who was in all three. Any guesses?

My gut says Sam Houston. I know for sure he served under Gen. Jackson around that time, but if memory serves, he was injured at Horseshoe Bend, and I don't know if he returned for New Orleans.

Sam Houston was the first man over the barricades at Horseshoe Bend, and IIRC he reclined under a tree (to receive Santa Anna's surrender) at San Jacinto, but I don't know whether he was at New Orleans or not. Given that he was with Jackson only months earlier, it would make sense.

(01-06-2015 05:37 PM)MJY Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 11:38 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 11:29 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 07:45 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 06:53 PM)MJY Wrote:  Measuring the costs (to the victors - probably less than 200 men total) against the benefits gained, the Horseshoe Bend/New Orleans/San Jacinto trilogy have to be three of the most "valuable" military victories in world history.

I wonder if there is anyone who was in all three of those battles?

There was at least one famous person who was in all three. Any guesses?

My gut says Sam Houston. I know for sure he served under Gen. Jackson around that time, but if memory serves, he was injured at Horseshoe Bend, and I don't know if he returned for New Orleans.

Sam Houston was the first man over the barricades at Horseshoe Bend, and IIRC he reclined under a tree (to receive Santa Anna's surrender) at San Jacinto, but I don't know whether he was at New Orleans or not. Given that he was with Jackson only months earlier, it would make sense.

You know, I posed the question believing that Sam Houston was the answer, but on further investigation, maybe not. Sorry about that!

(01-06-2015 05:39 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 05:37 PM)MJY Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 11:38 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 11:29 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 07:45 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  I wonder if there is anyone who was in all three of those battles?

There was at least one famous person who was in all three. Any guesses?

My gut says Sam Houston. I know for sure he served under Gen. Jackson around that time, but if memory serves, he was injured at Horseshoe Bend, and I don't know if he returned for New Orleans.

Sam Houston was the first man over the barricades at Horseshoe Bend, and IIRC he reclined under a tree (to receive Santa Anna's surrender) at San Jacinto, but I don't know whether he was at New Orleans or not. Given that he was with Jackson only months earlier, it would make sense.

You know, I posed the question believing that Sam Houston was the answer, but on further investigation, maybe not. Sorry about that!

Sam Houston may have been IN New Orleans but not necessarily taking part in the battle. At some point, he went there to recover from his Horseshoe Bend injuries, but not clear how the timing of his recovery fits with the battle. Some of you may remember Casey Roon from Rice volleyball. She is the art curator of the Sam Houston Museum in Huntsville, I'll ask her when I get back from Hawaii.

Aaron Burleson fought at San Jacinto, and his father fought with Jackson at Horseshoe Bend and New Orleans.

Per Casey, the answer is Edward Burleson. Edward and Aaron were brothers, father was James.

As for Sam Houston, Casey wrote, "he WAS in New Orleans, albeit injured. That is where he first laid eyes on Margaret Lea." But not at the time of the battle.

(01-06-2015 10:05 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Per Casey, the answer is Edward Burleson. Edward and Aaron were brothers, father was James.

As for Sam Houston, Casey wrote, "he WAS in New Orleans, albeit injured. That is where he first laid eyes on Margaret Lea." But not at the time of the battle.

AlmadenI45Owl Wrote:In case anyone's wondering, it is Edward Burleson that Burleson county (home to all of 16,500 people) is named after. That includes Caldwell and a bunch a couple of other small towns Somerville, which I used to drive through.

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AlmadenI45Owl Wrote:In case anyone's wondering, it is Edward Burleson that Burleson county (home to all of 16,500 people) is named after. That includes Caldwell and a bunch a couple of other small towns Somerville, which I used to drive through.

The city of Burleson, Texas, OTOH, is named for a different Burleson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burleson,_Texas

(01-07-2015 10:52 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

AlmadenI45Owl Wrote:In case anyone's wondering, it is Edward Burleson that Burleson county (home to all of 16,500 people) is named after. That includes Caldwell and a bunch a couple of other small towns Somerville, which I used to drive through.

The city of Burleson, Texas, OTOH, is named for a different Burleson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burleson,_Texas

But, there's this...

Rufus Columbus Burleson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_Columbus_Burleson Wrote:On November 19, 1854, he baptized Sam Houston.[3]

(01-07-2015 02:41 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(01-07-2015 10:52 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

AlmadenI45Owl Wrote:In case anyone's wondering, it is Edward Burleson that Burleson county (home to all of 16,500 people) is named after. That includes Caldwell and a bunch a couple of other small towns Somerville, which I used to drive through.

The city of Burleson, Texas, OTOH, is named for a different Burleson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burleson,_Texas

But, there's this...

Rufus Columbus Burleson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_Columbus_Burleson Wrote:On November 19, 1854, he baptized Sam Houston.[3]

Two other ministers were present as well, including George Washington Baines, LBJ's great-grandfather.

Happy Bicentennial!

And here's an interesting article:

"How the Battle of New Orleans Birthed the American Character"

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/...-democracy

Re-enactment tomorrow night:

http://www.nola.com/festivals/index.ssf/...cart_river