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(01-04-2015 11:07 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  For as much motivating that Kerrry Coombs does, he pretty much offsets that with his coaching.

Kerry Coombs was a perfect tool for Colerain, but is a constant reminder of the Peter Principle. He has reached his own level of incompetence.

The Peter Principle is a concept in management theory in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in his or her current role rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."
 
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Not sure Coombs could have done any worse than the high amount of blown coverages and assignments UC had this year in the secondary so I won't pick on the guy. He's so bad at his job he is making a bunch more money and is going to the national championship game. We showed him.

No way am I advocating for him but for the sake of argument, say we had hired Coombs over this stiff Hughes...would we have performed any worse? Would we have lost a single game more? No way. Would we be on our 3rd DC in 3 years? Not unless TT ran him off.

Would we have recruited our own region better and actually have had a pulse on the sideline? File under water is wet.
 
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(01-04-2015 11:51 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Not sure Coombs could have done any worse than the high amount of blown coverages and assignments UC had this year in the secondary so I won't pick on the guy. He's so bad at his job he is making a bunch more money and is going to the national championship game. We showed him.

No way am I advocating for him but for the sake of argument, say we had hired Coombs over this stiff Hughes...would we have performed any worse? Would we have lost a single game more? No way. Would we be on our 3rd DC in 3 years? Not unless TT ran him off.

Would we have recruited our own region better and actually have had a pulse on the sideline? File under water is wet.

Not a Coombs guy, but I can't argue with a single point you made.
 
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(01-04-2015 11:51 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Not sure Coombs could have done any worse than the high amount of blown coverages and assignments UC had this year in the secondary so I won't pick on the guy. He's so bad at his job he is making a bunch more money and is going to the national championship game. We showed him.

No way am I advocating for him but for the sake of argument, say we had hired Coombs over this stiff Hughes...would we have performed any worse? Would we have lost a single game more? No way. Would we be on our 3rd DC in 3 years? Not unless TT ran him off.

Would we have recruited our own region better and actually have had a pulse on the sideline? File under water is wet.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
 
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(01-04-2015 11:51 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Not sure Coombs could have done any worse than the high amount of blown coverages and assignments UC had this year in the secondary so I won't pick on the guy. He's so bad at his job he is making a bunch more money and is going to the national championship game. We showed him.

No way am I advocating for him but for the sake of argument, say we had hired Coombs over this stiff Hughes...would we have performed any worse? Would we have lost a single game more? No way. Would we be on our 3rd DC in 3 years? Not unless TT ran him off.

Would we have recruited our own region better and actually have had a pulse on the sideline? File under water is wet.

Not sure why this idea that Coombs was in practice such a great recruiter of local talent to UC still keeps coming up. Remember all those four and five star Greater Cincinnati HS players he pulled away from tO$U, MSU, Michigan, ND, etc...? Oh wait, he never did. He did get a lot of kids from Indiana, but many seemed to have quit or transferred to the MAC or even lesser programs.
As far as a pulse on the sideline, don't see how running around like an idiot without a coat on in a snowstorm wins football games, but to each his own I guess.
 
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You are not trying to say he recruited this region at a lower rate than Hank Hughes, are you?
 
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(01-04-2015 01:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You are not trying to say he recruited this region at a lower rate than Hank Hughes, are you?

That's unanswerable question since he was only here for around 11 months. What I do know is that Coombs didn't exactly bring the GCL bounty into UC that was speculated to happen when he was hired. In fact I heard that some HS coaches in the area didn't care for him based on his time at Colerain.
 
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(01-04-2015 11:02 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:47 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 12:51 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Face it folks, it will be hard to keep any coach or assistant who has higher coaching aspirations. No one wants to be stuck in this G5 hell hole. Everyone is striving for a P5 gig.

Has Rob Ryan been canned from the Saints yet? (kidding)

We need a new coordinator with some fresh ideas and can adapt to today's game. That really hit home for me when Todd Blackledge spoke about how OSU adopted Pete Carroll's philosophy of "rugby tackling" by aiming for the hips on Defense. Seems to really work for OSU (and Seattle). Meanwhile the old school guys like TT and Hughes teach the "tackle high and turn" technique. We see how well that worked out.



Hate to burst your bubble03-nutkick, but TT talked on his radio show several months ago about they were teaching Seattle style tackling.

Then they changed their philosophy mid season. At one of his press conferences earlier in the season ( I believe it was after OSU), when everyone was questioning all the missed tackles, he stated that the problem wasn't technique. He said they teach them to grab the shoulders and turn the guy because they believe it causes more turnovers. I'd go back and find the video, but i'm too lazy to do it.

Yep he definitely talked about teaching high tackling.

I thought perhaps he was limiting that to d line tackling. Where it would at least make some sense considering they rarely have time and space to break down into low form tackles
 
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Did Hughes have any big recruits to his name? I don't keep close enough track of that stuff. Assuming he doesn't, this isn't a loss for us.
 
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(01-04-2015 04:11 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Did Hughes have any big recruits to his name? I don't keep close enough track of that stuff. Assuming he doesn't, this isn't a loss for us.

Prunty is our guy on the big recruits, the only people we might lose are those who were really invested in our defensive "scheme", and if we're honest, we probably wouldn't want those kids anyways 03-lmfao
 
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http://247sports.com/Coach/Hank-Hughes-537

Look at who he recruited the last few years at UCONN. Tip. He pretty much didn't.
 
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(01-04-2015 04:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  http://247sports.com/Coach/Hank-Hughes-537

Look at who he recruited the last few years at UCONN. Tip. He pretty much didn't.

Based on UConn's performance over the past few years, I don't think anyone recruited much there.
With regard to Coombs, during his time at tO$U the pass defense goes from 14th in the Nation to 112th over two years before he got demoted from coaching the cornerbacks this past spring. Tip: Probably not a great resume addition if you're looking to move up to a DC job at another FBS school.
 
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He was there for 12 years and didn't much. The guy was never known as a recruiter. You ever hear an interview with him? More Slingblade than Mr . Personality. Which was yet another reason that hire had lots of us asking wtf.
 
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(01-04-2015 07:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He was there for 12 years and didn't much. The guy was never known as a recruiter. You ever hear an interview with him? More Slingblade than Mr . Personality. Which was yet another reason that hire had lots of us asking wtf.

Slingblade 03-lmfao
 
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(01-04-2015 07:16 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He was there for 12 years and didn't much. The guy was never known as a recruiter. You ever hear an interview with him? More Slingblade than Mr . Personality. Which was yet another reason that hire had lots of us asking wtf.

Slingblade 03-lmfao

Dem other boys scored a touchdown....mmm hmm
 
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(01-04-2015 07:20 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:16 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He was there for 12 years and didn't much. The guy was never known as a recruiter. You ever hear an interview with him? More Slingblade than Mr . Personality. Which was yet another reason that hire had lots of us asking wtf.

Slingblade 03-lmfao

Dem other boys scored a touchdown....mmm hmm

I may have to steal that for my sig. 03-lmfao
 
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(01-04-2015 07:59 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:20 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:16 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  
(01-04-2015 07:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He was there for 12 years and didn't much. The guy was never known as a recruiter. You ever hear an interview with him? More Slingblade than Mr . Personality. Which was yet another reason that hire had lots of us asking wtf.

Slingblade 03-lmfao

Dem other boys scored a touchdown....mmm hmm

I may have to steal that for my sig. 03-lmfao

All yours man. If you're tired of that lawyerin', they need a replacement for Hanky. We aren't P5 though, so I understand if you don't want to take the pay cut. If you take the job let me know, we can get out the 12 gauges and knock TT's golf balls out of the air before they hit the fairway.
 
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I'd never last. I ask tough questions that people don't want asked and am a bit of a troublemaker by nature. Good for what I do now. Not so good for working for someone. I would definitely recommend they hire you as the firearms instructor for the staff. Clifton Heights can be a little squirrelly, you know.
 
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Is Prunty ready for a job like this? I have no idea but he is a GREAT recruiter and would hate to see him leave because I guarantee people will go after him.
 
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Anybody hearing anything about possible candidates for us?
 
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