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tigernole79 · 01-02-2015 12:45 PM

Because they have 10 days to prepare.
Auburn put up more yards against Bama...
You know, five loss Auburn.

If Oregon had their best CB, the beat down against FSU might've been even worse.
I think it's Oregon by 10, but it could snowball on them too.

salukiblue · 01-02-2015 12:56 PM

(01-02-2015 12:45 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Because they have 10 days to prepare.
Auburn put up more yards against Bama...
You know, five loss Auburn.

If Oregon had their best CB, the beat down against FSU might've been even worse.
I think it's Oregon by 10, but it could snowball on them too.

I dunno. It depends on turnovers. FSU was putting up yards. NO team can afford to turn the ball over four consecutive times in a 5 point game and expect to win.

People seem to kill the Bucks because of the Va Tech loss (and to some extent rightfully so) but that was week 2 of the season, they had to break in a new qb, the week before was Navy, so game prep was totally different. This OSU team STARTS 11 frosh or sophs, so these youngin's were really raw then. They've had a chance to mature a lot.

It's not like tOSU is lacking talent, either. Their last four recruiting classes were ranked 4, 2, 3 and 11 nationally.

Oregon will score 46. The question is whether Ohio State will score 45 or 47.

I see it as whoever wins the turnover battle wins the game.

tigernole79 · 01-02-2015 02:08 PM

I think Oregon would've beat Bama much worse.
I think OSU will give them a great game. Probably the only team that is a better matchup is TCU.

Mimi · 01-02-2015 02:19 PM

Such anger from some of you guys.

A decade of dominance...meaningless.

A nice stomping by TCU...all the meaning in the world.

Ahhh. Qualifiers left and right.

Oregon has been really good...title contending good...they had one shot, lost, now they get another one. Many schools outside the SEC have been title worthy, but lost the big game. Alabama was title worthy, they lost. The only big upshot from all of this is that in 2014, as it turns out,mAlabama was the only title worthy team in the SEC. A bunch of good teams but only really one elite...and they were not quite good enough yesterday.

Unless you guys are arguing that FSU undeserving to play yesterday because they happened to get goat stomped. Nonsense. They played a bad game and Oregon was really good and took full advantage. While Oregon looked to be the better team, If they played again, FSU absolutely could win.

tigernole79 · 01-02-2015 02:37 PM

It IS meaningless. Just like OSU never losing to Oregon is meaningless. Last year, or the past decade don't matter. Or Miami would still be relevant.
The BcS system was set up to favor the $EC. We will see how it plays out in the next few years. I don't believe Bama was ever title worthy. Who was their major win against?!!! When they play U$C to start the season, I will be more impressed. Memphis played ole miss better than Bama did!!

The problem is everybody thinks like you... the last decade proves that the $EC is dominant EVERY year and this year, and I contend a few others, they just aren't.

salukiblue · 01-02-2015 03:02 PM

(01-02-2015 02:19 PM)Mimi Wrote: Such anger from some of you guys.

A decade of dominance...meaningless.

A nice stomping by TCU...all the meaning in the world.

Ahhh. Qualifiers left and right.

Oregon has been really good...title contending good...they had one shot, lost, now they get another one. Many schools outside the SEC have been title worthy, but lost the big game. Alabama was title worthy, they lost. The only big upshot from all of this is that in 2014, as it turns out,mAlabama was the only title worthy team in the SEC. A bunch of good teams but only really one elite...and they were not quite good enough yesterday.

Unless you guys are arguing that FSU undeserving to play yesterday because they happened to get goat stomped. Nonsense. They played a bad game and Oregon was really good and took full advantage. While Oregon looked to be the better team, If they played again, FSU absolutely could win.

I don't see the anger. Whatever.

Just noting that the "system" that had been in place was always a fraudulent prop up, so the effective outcome of the fraud somehow "proved" conference dominance?

In particular, the 2008 season, which had 5 one-loss teams (USC, Texas, Bammer, OU and Florida) and undefeated Boise and Utah (who waxed Bammer in the Sugar Bowl). Texas beat OU head to head but OU was higher in the BCS standings.

The 2004 season, with undefeated USC not playing undefeated Auburn and (undefeated) Utah not getting a shot at Auburn in the Sugar Bowl.

The 2009 season had five undefeated teams.

2012 1-loss Bammer gets in over 1-loss Oregon and 1-loss K-State.

Or the year Bama loses to LSU then gets the rematch and blows LSU up. Did that prove (by the outcome) that LSU didn't deserve to really play for the title? Because that was the narrative when Ohio State was humbled by UF and LSU. That one game "proved" the B1g couldn't compete. The secondary fallacy of the one game equals big picture thought process.

Those are just a sample of seasons in which there were multiple opportunities to "get the wrong best two."

Mimi · 01-02-2015 06:22 PM

Nole you are hilarious, but at least consistent.

Rarely seen such anger squeeze out in a message board.

There are separate things...and no one is arguing that yet you are still seething with anger. Overall the last decade the SEC has been the strongest...by far.

THIS season, as it turns out, while they may still be the strongest overall, it is certainly not in a dominating manner and specifically, it certainly looks like they do onto have the single dominant team or teams. Everyone agrees with that. The anger attached to the fact that they were clearly the best for quite some time seems odd. Take a chill pill. Last year FSU was the best single team. This year it may be Oregon. May be ohio state.

But it is not as if Florida beat Ohio state badly after 2006 and within minutes the SEC Elias designated as dominant. It was based on years and years of not winning every big game, but clearly winning more than their fair share...all, the belly aching whining that those games Were rigged notwithstanding.

Even if the SEC and ESPN conspired to get their team in the title game...they typically then ran over their opponent, be it ohio state, Texas, Notre Dame...they proved it on the field for a long long time. And even this year, before Louisville beat Kentucky, they were still awful good.u

tigernole79 · 01-02-2015 08:08 PM

Not the least bit angry. Place your emotional state on other people. I know.it must be devastating to have to beat ECU to have a winning record, but Florida might jump back into the national picture some day.

I respect the $EC, just don't like them and don't have blinders on that 9 allows me to see things on your perspective.

LOVE how you can't address specifics mentioned earlier, but attack the emotional state of aa one that disagrees with you. You would make many politicians proud.

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