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SEC Bowl disaster
Can a SEC team, especially in the West Division, lose?

Yes, they can. Ask LSU.
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Dammit LSU!

Now the SEC West is 30-1 in OOC play!

The dream is over.

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(12-30-2014 07:55 PM)ArQ Wrote:  Can a SEC team, especially in the West Division, lose?

Yes, they can. Ask LSU.

Notre Dame has SEC level talent, so had the puncher's chance.
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Disaster?
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Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

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(12-30-2014 10:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

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(12-31-2014 12:02 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

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Oh, I am sure you attempted to show off another picture with the intent of angering me but...you failed. You would have failed even if you hadn't failed but this failure makes you even more of a failure than if you had simply failed to anger me with a failure of a picture.

Simply put, you failed.
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(12-31-2014 02:54 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 12:02 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

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Oh, I am sure you attempted to show off another picture with the intent of angering me but...you failed. You would have failed even if you hadn't failed but this failure makes you even more of a failure than if you had simply failed to anger me with a failure of a picture.

Simply put, you failed.

I never try to anger people when posting on a message board.
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(12-30-2014 10:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

Dude, I think the OP was being sarcastic. 07-coffee3
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(12-31-2014 07:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

Dude, I think the OP was being sarcastic. 07-coffee3

Dude....so was I. 07-coffee3
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RE: SEC Bowl disaster
(12-30-2014 07:55 PM)ArQ Wrote:  Can a SEC team, especially in the West Division, lose?

Yes, they can. Ask LSU.

Or ask the refs...

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Watch controversial LSU fake field goal that was ruled no touchdown in Music City Bowl


Oh well.
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RE: SEC Bowl disaster
The shot you provided makes it hard to determine if the ball is really over the goal-line (due to look down on it from an angle). Here's the other shot:

[Image: MusicCity-LSU-NoTD.jpg]

The reverse angle tells a different story - no TD (his wrist is behind the line, and the ball is behind his wrist).
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(12-31-2014 11:14 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  The shot you provided makes it hard to determine if the ball is really over the goal-line (due to look down on it from an angle). Here's the other shot:

[Image: MusicCity-LSU-NoTD.jpg]

The reverse angle tells a different story - no TD (his wrist is behind the line, and the ball is behind his wrist).

Actually, your shot is the other one I was trying to find. His knee touched after the ball crossed the plane and he pulled the ball back in. That's what made it so easy to determine that the ball crossed before the knee touched.

Normally a bad call is a bad call and we've all suffered through the agony at one time or another. The same could be said for the no PI call while A&M was on their final drive in the LSU/A&M game, and it cost A&M the game.

It just sucks that it cost LSU that bowl game.
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(12-31-2014 11:14 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  The shot you provided makes it hard to determine if the ball is really over the goal-line (due to look down on it from an angle). Here's the other shot:

[Image: MusicCity-LSU-NoTD.jpg]

The reverse angle tells a different story - no TD (his wrist is behind the line, and the ball is behind his wrist).

not sure your picture matters. the one before shows the ball clearly broke the plane at some point, the question is if he was down when it did. doesn't look like it but thems the breaks.
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(12-31-2014 11:21 AM)Tiguar Wrote:  not sure your picture matters. the one before shows the ball clearly broke the plane at some point, the question is if he was down when it did. doesn't look like it but thems the breaks.

From Hokie's angle, his knee touched after the ball was pulled back into the wrist. That alone tells that the knee wasn't down while the ball was over the plane. If you watch it again in the replay, you can see it. That's why there's such a controversy with the call.
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(12-31-2014 11:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 11:14 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  The shot you provided makes it hard to determine if the ball is really over the goal-line (due to look down on it from an angle). Here's the other shot:

[Image: MusicCity-LSU-NoTD.jpg]

The reverse angle tells a different story - no TD (his wrist is behind the line, and the ball is behind his wrist).

Actually, your shot is the other one I was trying to find. His knee touched after the ball crossed the plane and he pulled the ball back in. That's what made it so easy to determine that the ball crossed before the knee touched.

Normally a bad call is a bad call and we've all suffered through the agony at one time or another. The same could be said for the no PI call while A&M was on their final drive in the LSU/A&M game, and it cost A&M the game.

It just sucks that it cost LSU that bowl game.

VT is no stranger to bad calls in bowl games...
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(that TD was called out-of-bounds vs. Michigan in the Sugar Bowl)

...I watched the video from the above angle frame by frame - I never saw the ball cross the goal-line. I realize the ESPN crew thought the ball "clearly" crossed the plane, but I'm not so sure. Be that as it may, as you say, breaks go both ways in a season - it's great when you get a gift, it stinks when you lose.
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(12-31-2014 11:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  VT is no stranger to bad calls in bowl games...
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(that TD was called out-of-bounds vs. Michigan in the Sugar Bowl)

...I watched the video from the above angle frame by frame - I never saw the ball cross the goal-line. I realize the ESPN crew thought the ball "clearly" crossed the plane, but I'm not so sure. Be that as it may, as you say, breaks go both ways in a season - it's great when you get a gift, it stinks when you lose.

Geez, yeah that was pretty obvious... It definitely stinks to high Heaven. Yall lost by 3 points as well. What a load of crap.
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(12-31-2014 07:44 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 02:54 AM)He1nousO:e Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 12:02 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Oh good lord, if losing a single bowl game means disaster for a conference then I fear for the future of the Big Ten after this year.

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Oh, I am sure you attempted to show off another picture with the intent of angering me but...you failed. You would have failed even if you hadn't failed but this failure makes you even more of a failure than if you had simply failed to anger me with a failure of a picture.

Simply put, you failed.
I never try to anger people when posting on a message board.
That's a pity, because you're so good at it. 07-coffee3
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While Notre Dame should be credited for playing well and they get the "bragging rights" for the game, LSU was robbed on that play. The camera angles they showed immediately after the play were indeed inconclusive. But late in the game, ESPN ran the angle above which showed definitively that the ball crossed the plane prior to any part of his body touching that would have ruled him down. LSU won't get the win, but they won it on the field in my mind.
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(12-31-2014 11:50 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  While Notre Dame should be credited for playing well and they get the "bragging rights" for the game, LSU was robbed on that play. The camera angles they showed immediately after the play were indeed inconclusive. But late in the game, ESPN ran the angle above which showed definitively that the ball crossed the plane prior to any part of his body touching that would have ruled him down. LSU won't get the win, but they won it on the field in my mind.

Definitely agree here.
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