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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 10:19 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 09:56 PM)Draelius Wrote:  Every P5 league gets $50 million from the playoff every year, regardless if they have a team in it or not. It's one of the reasons the Big 12 faces little financial pressure to expand. Leagues do get bonuses of $6 million per team in the playoff bowl and $4 million per team in the New Year's 6 bowls.

Pretty sure each team in the four team playoff (or conference) gets an additional 6 million. Also I've read that a Big 12 championship game would bring about 25 million from all sources to the conference.

I think TC already posted something to this effect, but if Memphis & Cincy SPLIT 1 share of the TV and Champ Game ($25M) money (such that it's divided by 11), the orig 10 would still receive the same $25M that they receive today. Now, if you start dividing the playoff money, then they might realize a net drop. However, after a few years in the B12, the value of Memphis and Cincy would increase and they could be worthy of a full share.
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 05:17 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 05:11 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 04:09 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 03:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 02:52 PM)3601 Wrote:  Interesting that more kids are coming out of NW Arkansas than out of Little Rock these days.

That's because big-city (Little Rock) dwellers have soccer-moms. Soccer-moms have their husbands PWed, and do not allow their sons to play Fooseball, which is obviously from the devil.

Random post of the day. NW Arkansas probably has more soccer moms than LR.

Ya, there is a large concentration of wealth in the NWA metro area (although I am not sure there is an actual inverse relationship of number of soccer moms and number of division one football players in a given population). There are number of reason that athletics in this part of the state are pulling ahead of central Arkansas. A large part is simply an emphasis on athletics and putting money into the programs and facilities. Schools like Bentonville, Fayetteville, and Springdale Har-Ber have some impressive facilities.

That part of the state has a population of about 500,000 and has as many Fortune 500 companies as Memphis (3).

Oh, Sorry 3601. I was thinking NE and you were saying NW. No, TOTALLY agree. Walmart and all that.
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 07:32 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:26 PM)ChapelHillTiger Wrote:  What? Memphis is a great academic institution. We have programs better than Texas and they have programs better than ours.






(12-30-2014 04:52 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Texas don't want us in because of academics

Texas doesn't think so. It's all good though because the other schools no better

Are you doing that on purpose?
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 07:42 PM)ChapelHillTiger Wrote:  I have been a professor at Columbia and Harvard and U of M has a great reputation in the East/Northeast.






(12-30-2014 07:32 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:26 PM)ChapelHillTiger Wrote:  What? Memphis is a great academic institution. We have programs better than Texas and they have programs better than ours.






(12-30-2014 04:52 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Texas don't want us in because of academics

Texas doesn't think so. It's all good though because the other schools no better

We should have joined the Big East! Well, never mind.
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 10:33 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:19 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 09:56 PM)Draelius Wrote:  Every P5 league gets $50 million from the playoff every year, regardless if they have a team in it or not. It's one of the reasons the Big 12 faces little financial pressure to expand. Leagues do get bonuses of $6 million per team in the playoff bowl and $4 million per team in the New Year's 6 bowls.

Pretty sure each team in the four team playoff (or conference) gets an additional 6 million. Also I've read that a Big 12 championship game would bring about 25 million from all sources to the conference.

I think TC already posted something to this effect, but if Memphis & Cincy SPLIT 1 share of the TV and Champ Game ($25M) money (such that it's divided by 11), the orig 10 would still receive the same $25M that they receive today. Now, if you start dividing the playoff money, then they might realize a net drop. However, after a few years in the B12, the value of Memphis and Cincy would increase and they could be worthy of a full share.

I wonder if someone can figure out what the cost of NOT having 12 teams and a championship game is for the Big XII? And then what the participating school and conference would receive for being in the semifinals/finals?
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 10:42 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:32 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:26 PM)ChapelHillTiger Wrote:  What? Memphis is a great academic institution. We have programs better than Texas and they have programs better than ours.






(12-30-2014 04:52 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Texas don't want us in because of academics

Texas doesn't think so. It's all good though because the other schools no better

Are you doing that on purpose?

My phone is trying to talk for itself lol. That should doesn't and know
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
Send to Tom Bowen.



(12-30-2014 12:53 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The chart below represents the composition of 2014 SEC rosters by the listed home locations of football players for each of the league's 14 programs.

[Image: 1401394356000-sec-heat-map.png]
12-31-2014 09:03 AM
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-30-2014 10:33 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:19 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 09:56 PM)Draelius Wrote:  Every P5 league gets $50 million from the playoff every year, regardless if they have a team in it or not. It's one of the reasons the Big 12 faces little financial pressure to expand. Leagues do get bonuses of $6 million per team in the playoff bowl and $4 million per team in the New Year's 6 bowls.

Pretty sure each team in the four team playoff (or conference) gets an additional 6 million. Also I've read that a Big 12 championship game would bring about 25 million from all sources to the conference.

I think TC already posted something to this effect, but if Memphis & Cincy SPLIT 1 share of the TV and Champ Game ($25M) money (such that it's divided by 11), the orig 10 would still receive the same $25M that they receive today. Now, if you start dividing the playoff money, then they might realize a net drop. However, after a few years in the B12, the value of Memphis and Cincy would increase and they could be worthy of a full share.

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but aren't you assuming that the Memphis and Cincinnati TV markets bring zero value to the Big 12. If so, the Memphis market for football was ranked #3 on ESPN. Yes I know that's the SEC but if another P5 enters I'm sure they get some of that college football attention.
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
(12-31-2014 10:06 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:33 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 10:19 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 09:56 PM)Draelius Wrote:  Every P5 league gets $50 million from the playoff every year, regardless if they have a team in it or not. It's one of the reasons the Big 12 faces little financial pressure to expand. Leagues do get bonuses of $6 million per team in the playoff bowl and $4 million per team in the New Year's 6 bowls.

Pretty sure each team in the four team playoff (or conference) gets an additional 6 million. Also I've read that a Big 12 championship game would bring about 25 million from all sources to the conference.

I think TC already posted something to this effect, but if Memphis & Cincy SPLIT 1 share of the TV and Champ Game ($25M) money (such that it's divided by 11), the orig 10 would still receive the same $25M that they receive today. Now, if you start dividing the playoff money, then they might realize a net drop. However, after a few years in the B12, the value of Memphis and Cincy would increase and they could be worthy of a full share.

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but aren't you assuming that the Memphis and Cincinnati TV markets bring zero value to the Big 12. If so, the Memphis market for football was ranked #3 on ESPN. Yes I know that's the SEC but if another P5 enters I'm sure they get some of that college football attention.

Annnnn(loud buzzer sound) Wrong. Well, u get partial credit.
Sure, some of it is SEC. HOWEVER-Tigers are KINGS of this market.
We've achieved this because more Tiger games are getting air time.

Plus, of course, Memphians watch other games with no Tigers or SEC involved.

So, let it be known that should Memphis join Big12, they (Big12) quickly own Memphis market AND national viewership ranking gets a quick spike. This means, among other things, commercial time for Big12 games gets more expensive. This, in turn, makes the league more valuable to ESPN. Thus, a bigger cut of the pie for the Big12.

THUS, AUTOMATICALLY the Tigers bring more value to the conference.

Therefore, if those seemingly intelligent men of the Big12 are aware of these facts; plus getting a BIG footprint in the heart of SEC country; then the decision should have already been made.
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RE: Graphic of where the SEC gets it's recruits (Big 12 needs an upgrade?)
If I were Cincy and Memphis I'd go to the Big XII and offer to take less revenue than the other 10 members for X amount of years.
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