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Bob Stoops & OU
-They haven't won a conference title in 4 years.

-That same conference has lost Nebraska, A&M, Missouri, and Colorado. The conference is easier now, not harder.

-A team they never lost to, Baylor, has slapped OU around 3 out of the last 4 years. And the one win was a squeaker.

-After rarely losing at home, they lost 3 this year including that pathetic showing against Baylor

-Bob decided to practice nepotism and bring his brother back which sent Brent Venables to Clemson and we now know who the better DC was.

-There was talk that Josh Heupel would be the eventual successor to Stoops. Looking at the offensive output tonight, as well as some other games late in the year, is going to make Sooner fans laugh. Or cry.

-The same kind of criticism came down 2 years back after the embarrassing bowl loss that year vs A&M and Stoops went on the attack against the alumni making it sound like they were being "disloyal" instead of addressing any of their actual points. Tells me something about his perspective; he's content.

-In his last 5 seasons at OU, Bud Wilkinson slumped as well.

-Ironically, the last game Barry Switzer coached at OU was against Clemson. In a bowl game in Orlando. I would think Stoops stays, but...,
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They won a share of the conference championship in 2012

Bob Stoops is still doing a good job there....it's been a down year for them, and they ran into a brick wall in their bowl game

Just last year though, they were beating Alabama
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This is the first time in 5 years that they've finished the year outside the top 15. Not bad for school with relatively few in-state recruits. I wouldn't throw in the towel on Stoops just yet.
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It speaks volumes of where the OU football program is at when we are discussing them being down instead of them having a good season. Clemson played their tails off last night and OU was terrible on both sides of the ball, and got destroyed. It happens.

But for what it's worth, A lot of OU fans are not happy with Josh Heupel (OC), or Mike Stoops (DC). And the family and friends aspect of Bob Stoop's selections have angered some boosters who want the best, not the best friend.
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It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.
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(12-30-2014 04:12 PM)thekevo23 Wrote:  It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.

Yea look at WVU at the end of Nehlen era and VT now, toward end of Beamer era. Not so pretty.
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(12-30-2014 04:12 PM)thekevo23 Wrote:  It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.

16 seasons
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Stoops is still a good coach, but he's lost too many quality assistants IMO.
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(12-30-2014 05:56 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 04:12 PM)thekevo23 Wrote:  It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.

16 seasons

Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is also in year 16. Stoops and Ferentz actually both interviewed for the Iowa job in 98, but Stoops took the standing offer from Oklahoma because Bob Bowlsby, the Iowa AD at the time, wanted to finish interviewing all the candidates before making an offer.

And Stoops openly had said he wanted the Iowa job. Stoops father had been buried in an iowa uniform because all 3 stoops brothers played safety at Iowa.

Anyway, Bobby if you ever get tired of Oklahoma, come home to Iowa city. Iowa is as tired of Ferentz as Okie is tired of you.
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RE: Bob Stoops & OU
(12-30-2014 07:31 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 05:56 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 04:12 PM)thekevo23 Wrote:  It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.

16 seasons

Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is also in year 16. Stoops and Ferentz actually both interviewed for the Iowa job in 98, but Stoops took the standing offer from Oklahoma because Bob Bowlsby, the Iowa AD at the time, wanted to finish interviewing all the candidates before making an offer.

And Stoops openly had said he wanted the Iowa job. Stoops father had been buried in an iowa uniform because all 3 stoops brothers played safety at Iowa.

Anyway, Bobby if you ever get tired of Oklahoma, come home to Iowa city. Iowa is as tired of Ferentz as Okie is tired of you.

I personally am a Bob Stoops fan. I think we need an aenima as it concerns the assistant coaches. Specifically the OC, Josh Heupyl (sp?), and Mike Stoops. A lot of Sooners fans/alum/boosters felt Venerables was the defensive mind of that duo (OU had co-DCs for years with Brett Venerables and Mike Stoops).

I wouldn't be surprised to see a purge sometime soon, but I think Big game Bob will remain. If not, I think boosters might start looking at replacing him.
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(12-30-2014 06:59 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Stoops is still a good coach, but he's lost too many quality assistants IMO.

It's called C.M.S., Comfortable Millionaire Syndrome, and it is deadly in sports, business, and about any other performance based aspect of life! It is why so many professional athletes no longer strive for championships. In the old days those playoff checks meant something. Those checks are now pocket change compared to the contracts. The post season is only meaningful to those who wish to attain a trophy or a ring, both of which pale in comparison to what the contracted millions can buy win or lose. College football is there now for coaches salaries. IMO the NFL was a much better game in the 60's and 70's when playoff money was a much larger percentage of the participants salaries.
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RE: Bob Stoops & OU
(12-30-2014 07:55 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:31 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 05:56 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 04:12 PM)thekevo23 Wrote:  It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.
16 seasons
Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is also in year 16. Stoops and Ferentz actually both interviewed for the Iowa job in 98, but Stoops took the standing offer from Oklahoma because Bob Bowlsby, the Iowa AD at the time, wanted to finish interviewing all the candidates before making an offer.

And Stoops openly had said he wanted the Iowa job. Stoops father had been buried in an iowa uniform because all 3 stoops brothers played safety at Iowa.

Anyway, Bobby if you ever get tired of Oklahoma, come home to Iowa city. Iowa is as tired of Ferentz as Okie is tired of you.
I personally am a Bob Stoops fan. I think we need an aenima as it concerns the assistant coaches. Specifically the OC, Josh Heupyl (sp?), and Mike Stoops. A lot of Sooners fans/alum/boosters felt Venerables was the defensive mind of that duo (OU had co-DCs for years with Brett Venerables and Mike Stoops).

I wouldn't be surprised to see a purge sometime soon, but I think Big game Bob will remain. If not, I think boosters might start looking at replacing him.
Stoops won't fire his OC or DC. One is his brother, and the other is a very good friend. But the problem is that's where he needs to make the change.

Big Game Bob is dead. The big game boob remains. 05-stirthepot
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(12-30-2014 09:51 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:55 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 07:31 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 05:56 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 04:12 PM)thekevo23 Wrote:  It feels like Stoops has been there forever and a day though. At some point you just need a change.
16 seasons
Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is also in year 16. Stoops and Ferentz actually both interviewed for the Iowa job in 98, but Stoops took the standing offer from Oklahoma because Bob Bowlsby, the Iowa AD at the time, wanted to finish interviewing all the candidates before making an offer.

And Stoops openly had said he wanted the Iowa job. Stoops father had been buried in an iowa uniform because all 3 stoops brothers played safety at Iowa.

Anyway, Bobby if you ever get tired of Oklahoma, come home to Iowa city. Iowa is as tired of Ferentz as Okie is tired of you.
I personally am a Bob Stoops fan. I think we need an aenima as it concerns the assistant coaches. Specifically the OC, Josh Heupyl (sp?), and Mike Stoops. A lot of Sooners fans/alum/boosters felt Venerables was the defensive mind of that duo (OU had co-DCs for years with Brett Venerables and Mike Stoops).

I wouldn't be surprised to see a purge sometime soon, but I think Big game Bob will remain. If not, I think boosters might start looking at replacing him.
Stoops won't fire his OC or DC. One is his brother, and the other is a very good friend. But the problem is that's where he needs to make the change.

Big Game Bob is dead. The big game boob remains. 05-stirthepot

I'm a fan, but you might be right.
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It happens. At least Stoops doesn't have to worry about impressing a new AD. With the change of ADs at WVU, Dana Holgorsen may be living on borrowed time. We shall find out more on both fronts soon enough, I figure.
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(12-31-2014 11:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  It happens. At least Stoops doesn't have to worry about impressing a new AD. With the change of ADs at WVU, Dana Holgorsen may be living on borrowed time. We shall find out more on both fronts soon enough, I figure.

I called Holgreson early in the season, but then WVU was playing some pretty good ball, so I figured he was safe. Then of course, you guys struggled. I think Holgreson deserves more time. The Trickett deal really hurt you guys in the bowl. Anyways, I think he hangs on.
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(12-31-2014 03:45 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 11:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  It happens. At least Stoops doesn't have to worry about impressing a new AD. With the change of ADs at WVU, Dana Holgorsen may be living on borrowed time. We shall find out more on both fronts soon enough, I figure.
I called Holgreson early in the season, but then WVU was playing some pretty good ball, so I figured he was safe. Then of course, you guys struggled. I think Holgreson deserves more time. The Trickett deal really hurt you guys in the bowl. Anyways, I think he hangs on.
He won't get fired this year. But if WVU has another late season collapse next season, you can be sure the unrest in Morgantown could force the new ADs hand.

Frankly though, I still think Holgorsen will right the ship. Each season we have more depth and talent. Eventually that will pay off, if he's given the time for it.
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(12-31-2014 03:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 03:45 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 11:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  It happens. At least Stoops doesn't have to worry about impressing a new AD. With the change of ADs at WVU, Dana Holgorsen may be living on borrowed time. We shall find out more on both fronts soon enough, I figure.
I called Holgreson early in the season, but then WVU was playing some pretty good ball, so I figured he was safe. Then of course, you guys struggled. I think Holgreson deserves more time. The Trickett deal really hurt you guys in the bowl. Anyways, I think he hangs on.
He won't get fired this year. But if WVU has another late season collapse next season, you can be sure the unrest in Morgantown could force the new ADs hand.

Frankly though, I still think Holgorsen will right the ship. Each season we have more depth and talent. Eventually that will pay off, if he's given the time for it.

I was peaking around the corner when the season started, and personally I have turned the corner on Holgorsen now. You say there is a good QB coming in and the dude that played in the LB looked pretty good. Will be hard to replace White, but I am sure their are others in the wings. I will say the conference road schedule will be tough next year, however.
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(12-30-2014 08:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 06:59 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Stoops is still a good coach, but he's lost too many quality assistants IMO.

It's called C.M.S., Comfortable Millionaire Syndrome, and it is deadly in sports, business, and about any other performance based aspect of life! It is why so many professional athletes no longer strive for championships. In the old days those playoff checks meant something. Those checks are now pocket change compared to the contracts. The post season is only meaningful to those who wish to attain a trophy or a ring, both of which pale in comparison to what the contracted millions can buy win or lose. College football is there now for coaches salaries. IMO the NFL was a much better game in the 60's and 70's when playoff money was a much larger percentage of the participants salaries.

I would add Georgia's Mark Richt to that list and possibly LSU's Les Miles.
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(12-31-2014 03:52 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 03:45 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(12-31-2014 11:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  It happens. At least Stoops doesn't have to worry about impressing a new AD. With the change of ADs at WVU, Dana Holgorsen may be living on borrowed time. We shall find out more on both fronts soon enough, I figure.
I called Holgreson early in the season, but then WVU was playing some pretty good ball, so I figured he was safe. Then of course, you guys struggled. I think Holgreson deserves more time. The Trickett deal really hurt you guys in the bowl. Anyways, I think he hangs on.
He won't get fired this year. But if WVU has another late season collapse next season, you can be sure the unrest in Morgantown could force the new ADs hand.

Frankly though, I still think Holgorsen will right the ship. Each season we have more depth and talent. Eventually that will pay off, if he's given the time for it.

Holgy has to transition a roster that was built for Big East play into one to survive the Big 12's season. It'll take time, but everyone sees the progress is there.
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(12-30-2014 08:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 06:59 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Stoops is still a good coach, but he's lost too many quality assistants IMO.

It's called C.M.S., Comfortable Millionaire Syndrome, and it is deadly in sports, business, and about any other performance based aspect of life! It is why so many professional athletes no longer strive for championships. In the old days those playoff checks meant something. Those checks are now pocket change compared to the contracts. The post season is only meaningful to those who wish to attain a trophy or a ring, both of which pale in comparison to what the contracted millions can buy win or lose. College football is there now for coaches salaries. IMO the NFL was a much better game in the 60's and 70's when playoff money was a much larger percentage of the participants salaries.

It is especially prevalent in baseball where players lose their edge after signing their multi-million dollar contracts. The reserve clause did have the benefit of making a player fight hard every at bat for their money.
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