(12-30-2014 12:30 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Let's see here.

Guy spoke one time to an organization 12 years ago and there does not seem to be any ongoing relationship. That makes him a white supremacist racist.
Al Sharpton is continually engaged in race-baiting. That's okay.

Got it. No double standard there.

You also have to take into account, stories like this are extremely rare so the left have to do what they can with what they've got. They're riding the coattail of this 12 year old news but you shouldn't be surprised, they still talk about slavery from the 1800's as if it is still occurring today.

(12-30-2014 09:39 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 06:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:36 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pity we can't get Robert Byrd's take on it.

There are racists all around but conservatives are consistently racist everyday.

Did Jesse and Al switch parties?

Bill O'reilly and Rush Limbaugh say hello.

Nah, they probably just laugh.

(12-29-2014 08:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Tom, why talk about speeches to white supremacists 12 years ago when you can talk about Muslim terrorists in the White House today?

There hasn't been a terrorist in the White House since Cheney/Rummy left.

(12-30-2014 12:36 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pity we can't get Robert Byrd's take on it.

There are racists all around but conservatives are consistently racist everyday.

Hell, at least you acknowledged Byrd was a racist.

(12-30-2014 11:37 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Tom, why talk about speeches to white supremacists 12 years ago when you can talk about Muslim terrorists in the White House today?

There hasn't been a terrorist in the White House since Cheney/Rummy left.

Which is when obama stepped in. Congratulations for shooting your foot.

David Duke led this organization and we are supposed to believe this was an accident?

(12-30-2014 12:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  David Duke led this organization and we are supposed to believe this was an accident?

Except lets' not forget that Duke wasn't "claimed" by either party, even when he ran on their respective ballots.

The Democrats didn't want him when he ran as a Democrat.
The Republicans didn't want him when he ran as a Republican.

There was just nothing they could do to get rid of him.

(12-30-2014 12:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  David Duke led this organization and we are supposed to believe this was an accident?

The guy spoke one time twelve years ago and we are supposed to believe that event defines him forever?

If it comes out that he has had an ongoing role, that's a different matter. But so far, to the best of my knowledge, nothing of the sort has come out.

(12-30-2014 11:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:36 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pity we can't get Robert Byrd's take on it.

There are racists all around but conservatives are consistently racist everyday.

Hell, at least you acknowledged Byrd was a racist.

He was. He also apologized profusely and consistently for his past association with racial hate groups. He acknowledged what a mistake it was and did his best to move forward from his racist past. He went on to earn decent ratings from groups like the NAACP for his stances on issues of minority interest.

Contrast that with the response of of today's GOP in 2014. There is complete defense for Scalise's association with a racist hate group. There is no apology, nor even an admission that it was wrong of him to be associated with such groups. We're not talking about a time when the nation was in the midst of the civil rights struggle. We're talking about the 21st century when everyone knows that being associated with racial hate groups is wrong - well, apparently everyone except right-wingers.

So bring up Robert Byrd all you want, but at least he tried to atone for his wrongdoings. The GOP, on the other hand, is currently being led by someone associated with racial hate groups and nearly elected an open Klansman as governor of Louisiana just a few years ago. So again, don't ever wonder why so many people see the GOP as a bastion of racism.

David Duke probably said the "n word" more than once. He'll rot in hell, so his fellow democrats should rest easy.

(12-30-2014 12:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  White supremacists are never a serious threat to enact any legislation. They're irrelevant.

Black supremacists get their laws enacted every day (affirmative action, hate crimes, etc.).

Nice that you said "enacted every day" and name 2 laws, one made 53 years ago and the other made 50 years ago. They aren't exactly apples to apples with black supremacy either.

Surely if it's an everyday thing, you'll be able to list a law that was enacted yesterday or last week.

(12-30-2014 12:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  David Duke led this organization and we are supposed to believe this was an accident?

The guy spoke one time twelve years ago and we are supposed to believe that event defines him forever?

If it comes out that he has had an ongoing role, that's a different matter. But so far, to the best of my knowledge, nothing of the sort has come out.

I see these same people have zero issues with obama's direct friendship and connection to the long time family friend, racist, and reverand, Jeremiah Wright.

Also, this thread could've been ended quickly if the first responses said something as simple as, "that's a shame". Instead we have the usual, "well these guys are doing it too."

We've been arguing the same way since kindergarten, haven't we?

(12-30-2014 12:55 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 11:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:36 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pity we can't get Robert Byrd's take on it.

There are racists all around but conservatives are consistently racist everyday.

Hell, at least you acknowledged Byrd was a racist.

He was. He also apologized profusely and consistently for his past association with racial hate groups. He acknowledged what a mistake it was and did his best to move forward from his racist past. He went on to earn decent ratings from groups like the NAACP for his stances on issues of minority interest.

Contrast that with the response of of today's GOP in 2014. There is complete defense for Scalise's association with a racist hate group. There is no apology, nor even an admission that it was wrong of him to be associated with such groups. We're not talking about a time when the nation was in the midst of the civil rights struggle. We're talking about the 21st century when everyone knows that being associated with racial hate groups is wrong - well, apparently everyone except right-wingers.

So bring up Robert Byrd all you want, but at least he tried to atone for his wrongdoings. The GOP, on the other hand, is currently being led by someone associated with racial hate groups and nearly elected an open Klansman as governor of Louisiana just a few years ago. So again, don't ever wonder why so many people see the GOP as a bastion of racism.

It's great to be a part of a political group that you hate so much that you bang your head into the wall every time you hear our political name.

(12-30-2014 12:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  David Duke led this organization and we are supposed to believe this was an accident?

The guy spoke one time twelve years ago and we are supposed to believe that event defines him forever?

If it comes out that he has had an ongoing role, that's a different matter. But so far, to the best of my knowledge, nothing of the sort has come out.

Why didn't he just say that. Instead, he tried to say different. His explanation now defines him.

(12-30-2014 12:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  White supremacists are never a serious threat to enact any legislation. They're irrelevant.

Black supremacists get their laws enacted every day (affirmative action, hate crimes, etc.).

Nice that you said "enacted every day" and name 2 laws, one made 53 years ago and the other made 50 years ago. They aren't exactly apples to apples with black supremacy either.

Surely if it's an everyday thing, you'll be able to list a law that was enacted yesterday or last week.

Affirmative section is from the 70's and hate crime laws are about 15 years old. They're not ancient.

But the congressional black caucus exists to make sure laws favor blacks. There is no congressional white caucus.

(12-30-2014 01:09 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  White supremacists are never a serious threat to enact any legislation. They're irrelevant.

Black supremacists get their laws enacted every day (affirmative action, hate crimes, etc.).

Nice that you said "enacted every day" and name 2 laws, one made 53 years ago and the other made 50 years ago. They aren't exactly apples to apples with black supremacy either.

Surely if it's an everyday thing, you'll be able to list a law that was enacted yesterday or last week.

Affirmative section is from the 70's and hate crime laws are about 15 years old. They're not ancient.

But the congressional black caucus exists to make sure laws favor blacks. There is no congressional white caucus.

Of course not, we all know that would be racist.

(12-30-2014 01:09 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  White supremacists are never a serious threat to enact any legislation. They're irrelevant.

Black supremacists get their laws enacted every day (affirmative action, hate crimes, etc.).

Nice that you said "enacted every day" and name 2 laws, one made 53 years ago and the other made 50 years ago. They aren't exactly apples to apples with black supremacy either.

Surely if it's an everyday thing, you'll be able to list a law that was enacted yesterday or last week.

Affirmative section is from the 70's and hate crime laws are about 15 years old. They're not ancient.

But the congressional black caucus exists to make sure laws favor blacks. There is no congressional white caucus.

Affirmative action was first made in 1961 by Kennedy, hate crimes were first prosecuted as such after 1964.

The CBC exists to make sure the interests of black people are accounted for in legislation, which there is an important distinction in comparison to how you describe it.

Also, no there is not one Congressional White Caucus. There are several. There's the Italian American Congressional Delegation, Armenian, Macedonian, Jewish, amongst others.

(12-30-2014 01:15 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 01:09 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  White supremacists are never a serious threat to enact any legislation. They're irrelevant.

Black supremacists get their laws enacted every day (affirmative action, hate crimes, etc.).

Nice that you said "enacted every day" and name 2 laws, one made 53 years ago and the other made 50 years ago. They aren't exactly apples to apples with black supremacy either.

Surely if it's an everyday thing, you'll be able to list a law that was enacted yesterday or last week.

Affirmative section is from the 70's and hate crime laws are about 15 years old. They're not ancient.

But the congressional black caucus exists to make sure laws favor blacks. There is no congressional white caucus.

Of course not, we all know that would be racist.

But it is untrue.

(12-30-2014 12:58 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  David Duke probably said the "n word" more than once. He'll rot in hell, so his fellow democrats should rest easy.

Duke changed from a Democrat to a Republican in 1989.