I think that CUSA will be decent accross the board next year but no special teams

AAC will be top solid with the middle group being avg and the bottom being bad

The Sunbelt will have a couple surprise teams that might upset somebody big

I think that the MAC is set up for a bad year and the MWC will not get the access bowl

(12-28-2014 03:56 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  C-USA went 24-28 in the regular season. Those wins came against teams that combined for a record of 104-190, or a 35% winning rate. Your best wins are probably a 7-5 Houston, 8-5 Navy, or 10-3 Alcorn State (FCS). If that's what you consider your peers...

That being said, forgive me or anyone else who isn't exactly impressed.

You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 03:56 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  C-USA went 24-28 in the regular season. Those wins came against teams that combined for a record of 104-190, or a 35% winning rate. Your best wins are probably a 7-5 Houston, 8-5 Navy, or 10-3 Alcorn State (FCS). If that's what you consider your peers...

That being said, forgive me or anyone else who isn't exactly impressed.

You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

I'll admit CUSA over achieved at least

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(12-28-2014 05:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

Massey has the teams that lost in the regular season ranked as Navy, Louisiana Lafayette, Houston, Appalachian State, Bowling Green and Hawaii.

(12-28-2014 05:56 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

Massey has the teams that lost in the regular season ranked as Navy, Louisiana Lafayette, Houston, Appalachian State, Bowling Green and Hawaii.

Ah ok, at least I got 2 of 3


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(12-27-2014 04:45 PM)comiceagle Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 09:18 PM)grapes Wrote:  The problem is though CUSA has a great record the bowls aren't very well respected. CUSA must get more P5 teams or at least some G5 teams with better records for that 15-6 record to be respected. I think 15-6 is great but 9-10 times other people will bring what I just mentioned up.

15 wins
(8-5) Florida International
(7-6) Nevada
(9-4) Penn State*
(6-7) Pittsburgh*
(9-4) Ball State*
(9-4) Fresno State*
(6-7) Air Force
(6-7) Iowa State*
(7-5) Ohio*
(7-6) Maryland
(7-6) UNLV
(11-3) NIU
(7-6) CMU
(6-8) Fresno
(6-7) Illinois

* Team who won has left CUSA

I guess it would be more impressive if our co-champions had lost to 2 average P5 teams.

I rather our co champs lose to power five teams and have the chance to win than just beat average G5 teams.

Had CUSA had the chance they could have easily made a case for the best G5 if they would have won those games. That's all I am saying. Im not trolling nor sick to my stomach. Chill.

(12-28-2014 05:12 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I didn't say the rest of the G5 sucks. You did. I said the teams CUSA played, by and large, sucked, and you've said nothing to disprove that.

First off, nobody's even tried to or has to disprove it because it's irrelevant. Nearly 30 games is more than enough of a sample size to rule out lucky scheduling. If CUSA benefited from weak G5 opponents, it's only to the extent that the other G5s had so much weakness available to schedule...which leads us right back to CUSA being the best of the bunch this year.

That said, again, our champ squashed the MAC champ. Our runner-up squashed the MWC runner up. In the head-to-head vs. the AAC, an AAC co-champ beat a CUSA team that finished 2 games out in its own division, 2 of our worst beat 2 of your worst, and one of our losing teams beat one of your bowl teams, so it was a pretty fair spread in which CUSA posted the 3-1 record.

(12-28-2014 05:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 03:56 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  C-USA went 24-28 in the regular season. Those wins came against teams that combined for a record of 104-190, or a 35% winning rate. Your best wins are probably a 7-5 Houston, 8-5 Navy, or 10-3 Alcorn State (FCS). If that's what you consider your peers...

That being said, forgive me or anyone else who isn't exactly impressed.

You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

I'll admit CUSA over achieved at least

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Left 11-2 NIU win off there? I mean, lets be honest. NIU 2mwould have probably been another co champ in the AAC at least.

(12-30-2014 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 03:56 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  C-USA went 24-28 in the regular season. Those wins came against teams that combined for a record of 104-190, or a 35% winning rate. Your best wins are probably a 7-5 Houston, 8-5 Navy, or 10-3 Alcorn State (FCS). If that's what you consider your peers...

That being said, forgive me or anyone else who isn't exactly impressed.

You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

I'll admit CUSA over achieved at least

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Left 11-2 NIU win off there? I mean, lets be honest. NIU 2mwould have probably been another co champ in the AAC at least.

Re-read again please. Those wins were referencing regular season OOC wins. I acknowledges your post season wins later in my post.

And say what? What on earth would lead you to believe that NIU would be a co-champ in the AAC? If we're going purely on transitive property, Houston, which finished 7-5, beat UNLV by 30 points immediately following UNLV losing to NIU by 14. That same Houston lost 3 games in the AAC. I think you're only saying NIU would compete to bolster your own win, if we're being honest here.

(12-30-2014 02:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 03:56 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  C-USA went 24-28 in the regular season. Those wins came against teams that combined for a record of 104-190, or a 35% winning rate. Your best wins are probably a 7-5 Houston, 8-5 Navy, or 10-3 Alcorn State (FCS). If that's what you consider your peers...

That being said, forgive me or anyone else who isn't exactly impressed.

You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

I'll admit CUSA over achieved at least

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Left 11-2 NIU win off there? I mean, lets be honest. NIU 2mwould have probably been another co champ in the AAC at least.

Re-read again please. Those wins were referencing regular season OOC wins. I acknowledges your post season wins later in my post.

And say what? What on earth would lead you to believe that NIU would be a co-champ in the AAC? If we're going purely on transitive property, Houston, which finished 7-5, beat UNLV by 30 points immediately following UNLV losing to NIU by 14. That same Houston lost 3 games in the AAC. I think you're only saying NIU would compete to bolster your own win, if we're being honest here.

One of our worst teams beat Houston, not sure why you keep parading them out . . . We could do a similar score comparison that shows NT would've been bowling if they had Houston's easier schedule, I guess.

(12-30-2014 06:42 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 02:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-30-2014 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 05:37 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  You missed 9-4 Louisiana Lafayette, 8-6 Bowling Green and 7-5 Appalachian State.

We get your point, but you play who is on the schedule. You have to agree the C-USA record was much better than anyone expected.

I didn't forget them, I just picked a top 3, though granted bowling green is probably a better win than Alcorn.

I'll admit CUSA over achieved at least

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Left 11-2 NIU win off there? I mean, lets be honest. NIU 2mwould have probably been another co champ in the AAC at least.

Re-read again please. Those wins were referencing regular season OOC wins. I acknowledges your post season wins later in my post.

And say what? What on earth would lead you to believe that NIU would be a co-champ in the AAC? If we're going purely on transitive property, Houston, which finished 7-5, beat UNLV by 30 points immediately following UNLV losing to NIU by 14. That same Houston lost 3 games in the AAC. I think you're only saying NIU would compete to bolster your own win, if we're being honest here.

One of our worst teams beat Houston, not sure why you keep parading them out . . . We could do a similar score comparison that shows NT would've been bowling if they had Houston's easier schedule, I guess.

I'm not parading them, you're missing the point entirely. That terrible team trounced UNLV, whereas NIU slithered by. It was a poor attempt to counter the ridiculous statement that NIU would contend in the AAC.

To be honest though, when Houston found the right QB they were contenders. They just didn't have the tools to compete, as is evident upon their firing of Levine.

Something else that is ironic (fitting?) Each team in the AAC that lost to a C-USA team has a new coach next year.

(12-30-2014 08:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Something else that is ironic (fitting?) Each team in the AAC that lost to a C-USA team has a new coach next year.

The coaching arms race in the AAC West has not gone unnoticed. Since conference W-L is a zero sum game, it will be fun to watch. Houston might improve immediately, but SMU and Tulsa are tear downs. Does a new coach get SMU past North Texas in 2015, and Tulsa past FAU? I doubt it.

In 2016, it may be very difficult for an AAC West team to post even a 6-2 conference record. You'll have a lot of good teams knocking each other off, and no easy games beyond Tulane.