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RE: UCF DC Tyson Summers to CSU
His salary of $180K seemed pretty low for a coordinator in the AAC.
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(12-29-2014 02:36 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  His salary of $180K seemed pretty low for a coordinator in the AAC.

That is kind of low. I just can't see CSU outbidding UCF
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(12-29-2014 03:05 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 02:36 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  His salary of $180K seemed pretty low for a coordinator in the AAC.

That is kind of low. I just can't see CSU outbidding UCF

Not hard to do...especially since CSU just received $5 Million in cash for their HC Buyout, plus, will be receiving another $500,000 for each of the next 4 years.

Bobo was smart in deciding to take the HC Job as he wanted access to some of the $5 Million in new cash to help hire his staff.

While both are friends from the same general area of South Georgia...more $$$ was certainly the main reason why Summers jumped on this offer.
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(12-28-2014 09:03 PM)Mike the Knight Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:00 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Who was the guy rumored to be in line to take GOL's place? Was that Summers or someone else?

Brent Key, OL coach

I will be pissed if Key ends up being the HC. He couldn't even get his Offensive line to perform this year.

I'm actually not upset about losing Summers. I wish he would've quit at halftime of the UConn game.
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RE: UCF DC Tyson Summers to CSU
(12-29-2014 08:07 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:03 PM)Mike the Knight Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:00 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Who was the guy rumored to be in line to take GOL's place? Was that Summers or someone else?

Brent Key, OL coach

I will be pissed if Key ends up being the HC. He couldn't even get his Offensive line to perform this year.

Being a "manager" (Head Coach) is much more to do than how a particular unit, that suffered major losses, performed in one year.

UCF lost 3 Seniors from last year's OL...and then lost 2 starters due to injury this year....and ended up having a walk-on at center (did ok, still somewhat small), and another (2013 starting Center), who, whiled injured all season long, tried to fill in at guard before he had season ending surgery too and a Div I-AA transfer starting at another spot by year's end.

GOL has coached/worked with Key for almost 17 years...I think GOL knows that if there are not many options available to fill in for a particular unit, the performance will probably not be that stellar, regardless who is coaching them.
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(12-29-2014 08:14 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 08:07 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:03 PM)Mike the Knight Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:00 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Who was the guy rumored to be in line to take GOL's place? Was that Summers or someone else?

Brent Key, OL coach

I will be pissed if Key ends up being the HC. He couldn't even get his Offensive line to perform this year.

Being a "manager" (Head Coach) is much more to do than how a particular unit, that suffered major losses, performed in one year.

UCF lost 3 Seniors from last year's OL...and then lost 2 starters due to injury this year....and ended up having a walk-on at center (did ok, still somewhat small), and another (2013 starting Center), who, whiled injured all season long, tried to fill in at guard before he had season ending surgery too and a Div I-AA transfer starting at another spot by year's end.

GOL has coached/worked with Key for almost 17 years...I think GOL knows that if there are not many options available to fill in for a particular unit, the performance will probably not be that stellar, regardless who is coaching them.

In my opinion the roles of position coach, coordinator, and HC are like engineer, tech lead, and CEO in a tech company. Position coaches learn and grow into coordinators, but rarely are good coordinators also good head coaches or vice versa. It's a totally different skill set.
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RE: UCF DC Tyson Summers to CSU
So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.
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(12-28-2014 09:36 PM)knightastic Wrote:  Rome is burning

George putting off retirement is hurting more than helping at this point.

This. We are not getting better with GOL at the helm. Last year was the best year that we will ever see with GOL. Now we are witnessing the decline of the program. When do we pull the plug? Do we really want GOL coaching with out Taffe? He's a horrible coach without Taffe or Friedgen. 44-55 is his record.
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(12-29-2014 10:21 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:36 PM)knightastic Wrote:  Rome is burning

George putting off retirement is hurting more than helping at this point.

This. We are not getting better with GOL at the helm. Last year was the best year that we will ever see with GOL. Now we are witnessing the decline of the program. When do we pull the plug? Do we really want GOL coaching with out Taffe? He's a horrible coach without Taffe or Friedgen. 44-55 is his record.

O'Leary hater, team up going on. That's cute
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(12-29-2014 10:40 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:21 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 09:36 PM)knightastic Wrote:  Rome is burning

George putting off retirement is hurting more than helping at this point.

This. We are not getting better with GOL at the helm. Last year was the best year that we will ever see with GOL. Now we are witnessing the decline of the program. When do we pull the plug? Do we really want GOL coaching with out Taffe? He's a horrible coach without Taffe or Friedgen. 44-55 is his record.

O'Leary hater, team up going on. That's cute

Numbers don't lie. 44-55. Keep burying your head in the sand.
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(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.
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(12-29-2014 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.

If Taffe is planning to stay one more year then GOL needs to make next year his last year too. GOL can't win without an awesome OC.
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(12-29-2014 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.

What does one have to do with the other?
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(12-29-2014 11:28 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.

What does one have to do with the other?

Taffe would know it puts GOL in a tough spot so he probably would stay so that GOL doesn't have to replace 2 coordinators. GOL might as well retire if he has to replace 2 coordinators.
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RE: UCF DC Tyson Summers to CSU
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Can we get confirmation that Taaffe wasn't allowed to call the plays in the Bowl game & that GOL had Coach Key call the game? I swear national media have more insider news on UCF than our own 'premium' boards
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(12-29-2014 10:57 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.

If Taffe is planning to stay one more year then GOL needs to make next year his last year too. GOL can't win without an awesome OC.

Yeah, no possibility that there is another OC out there that might be hired the same way Taffe was..01-wingedeagle
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(12-29-2014 01:26 PM)knightastic Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Can we get confirmation that Taaffe wasn't allowed to call the plays in the Bowl game & that GOL had Coach Key call the game? I swear national media have more insider news on UCF than our own 'premium' boards

Or...your premier board reporters do their best to protect the program by not leaking information which could be harmful. Spilling the beans on recruits and current player's playing time doesn't hurt the program. Stuff like who is currently getting passed over to lead the team in a bowl game in preparation for when GOL leaves does. The national media could care less about UCF's best interests.
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(12-29-2014 01:56 PM)Juan Tibonya Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:57 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.

If Taffe is planning to stay one more year then GOL needs to make next year his last year too. GOL can't win without an awesome OC.

Yeah, no possibility that there is another OC out there that might be hired the same way Taffe was..01-wingedeagle

If you did your homework you'd know that GOL is 80-38 with Taffe & Friedgen. He's 44-55 without them. So history shows that we will lose more with this new hypothetical OC.
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(12-29-2014 03:06 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 01:56 PM)Juan Tibonya Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:57 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 09:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  So many crazy rumors this morning... I'll share my favorite.

Apparently this Summers leaving was a complete surprise. Taaffe had been planing on retiring and had told O'Leary in advance. Now that Summers has left, UCF is frantically trying to get Taaffe to stay on for 1 more year. Replacing both coordinators would be a pretty big challenge. Today it seems Taaffe is retracting from his previous stance and is considering staying.

So in a wierd way, Summers leaving might lead to 1 more year of Taaffe.

Also, GOL is sick of people asking if he's retiring. He's not leaving, why would he be interviewing replacements if he were out the door.

Taaffe staying is essential. If Summers had to leave to insure that Taaffe would stay... I am glad Summers left.

If Taffe is planning to stay one more year then GOL needs to make next year his last year too. GOL can't win without an awesome OC.

Yeah, no possibility that there is another OC out there that might be hired the same way Taffe was..01-wingedeagle

If you did your homework you'd know that GOL is 80-38 with Taffe & Friedgen. He's 44-55 without them. So history shows that we will lose more with this new hypothetical OC.

Just don't rehire Tim Salem and we'll be fine. 04-cheers
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RE: UCF DC Tyson Summers to CSU
(12-29-2014 03:05 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 02:36 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  His salary of $180K seemed pretty low for a coordinator in the AAC.

That is kind of low. I just can't see CSU outbidding UCF

Why not? They have a much larger endowment, more research and just drooppec $200 million on a new stadium. CSU is a good school.
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