In 1995-96, there were 18 bowl games. Now there are 38, plus a national championship game — four more bowls than last season, including two at stadiums that seat just 25,000 and 15,000. Next year, bowl organizers are set to add another new lower-tier game that might be fortunate to draw more than 25,000 fans.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../20896969/

Where is the new bowl game gonna be and who is in it??

Cure bowl in Orlando, at the new Citrus Bowl.



AAC vs Sun Belt.

The conferences on the outside looking in where this mythical national championship is concerned should get together and brainstorm a way to create a playoff of their own...The bowl games, I still love watching them and should continue but for the winners of these particular conferences, there should be something more for them. A G-5 Playoff would increase fan bases, enhance recruiting and get the network's attention as well. If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu...Time for the "Outcast" Conferences to start establishing a championship of their own, & damn "BCS 2.0"...

How did the SB get a matchup in Orlando with an AAC opponent?

(12-29-2014 08:57 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  How did the SB get a matchup in Orlando with an AAC opponent?

Last year AAC sold it's Bahamas Bowl spot to CUSA to get BYU in Miami (it worked out, unless you're a Temple fan)

With 7 bowls for 12 teams in 2015...we may sell the cure bowl to secure a better opponent somewhere.

Military - vs ACC
Birmingham - vs SEC

Are our only P5 bowls next season, so that's why I think we sell off the Cure Bowl.

(12-29-2014 08:45 AM)Matrix Wrote:  The conferences on the outside looking in where this mythical national championship is concerned should get together and brainstorm a way to create a playoff of their own...The bowl games, I still love watching them and should continue but for the winners of these particular conferences, there should be something more for them. A G-5 Playoff would increase fan bases, enhance recruiting and get the network's attention as well. If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu...Time for the "Outcast" Conferences to start establishing a championship of their own, & damn "BCS 2.0"...

I'm really not a fan of this... frankly, instituting a G5 playoff further divides the P5 from the G5 and makes out exclusion even easier for the P5 to perpetrate.

Say a G5 team actually does do what is needed to show up in that top four. I could imagine a large sentiment within the media, and more importantly the CFP committee, saying "Well look... y'all already have your own playoff."

What I would like to see, however, is the G5 conference band together to break the P5's stranglehold on the bowl games that fall during the time period in which bowl games should fall. Pool the resources to buy two bowl games: One in the East and one in the West. Place one on New Year's Eve, and one on New Year's Day. Screw you, ESPN. CBS or FOX would love to get their hands on a NYE/NYD bowl game to compete with ABCSPN. The G5 conferences, being the owners of these bowls, place the four G5 champs that did not get into the Access Bowl into these games as makes the most sense for ticket sales.

Set these games up in smaller stadiums that will likely sell out. My favorite game that I've watched so far, honestly, was the Military Bowl... because it was in a very small stadium that was absolutely packed. The atmosphere was fantastic, and it conveyed through the TV broadcast.

I'd love to see a Palmetto Bowl in Charleston, but of course that would never happen. On that, I digress.

(12-29-2014 11:10 AM)49erlew Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:45 AM)Matrix Wrote:  The conferences on the outside looking in where this mythical national championship is concerned should get together and brainstorm a way to create a playoff of their own...The bowl games, I still love watching them and should continue but for the winners of these particular conferences, there should be something more for them. A G-5 Playoff would increase fan bases, enhance recruiting and get the network's attention as well. If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu...Time for the "Outcast" Conferences to start establishing a championship of their own, & damn "BCS 2.0"...

I'm really not a fan of this... frankly, instituting a G5 playoff further divides the P5 from the G5 and makes out exclusion even easier for the P5 to perpetrate.

Say a G5 team actually does do what is needed to show up in that top four. I could imagine a large sentiment within the media, and more importantly the CFP committee, saying "Well look... y'all already have your own playoff."

What I would like to see, however, is the G5 conference band together to break the P5's stranglehold on the bowl games that fall during the time period in which bowl games should fall. Pool the resources to buy two bowl games: One in the East and one in the West. Place one on New Year's Eve, and one on New Year's Day. Screw you, ESPN. CBS or FOX would love to get their hands on a NYE/NYD bowl game to compete with ABCSPN. The G5 conferences, being the owners of these bowls, place the four G5 champs that did not get into the Access Bowl into these games as makes the most sense for ticket sales.

Set these games up in smaller stadiums that will likely sell out. My favorite game that I've watched so far, honestly, was the Military Bowl... because it was in a very small stadium that was absolutely packed. The atmosphere was fantastic, and it conveyed through the TV broadcast.

I'd love to see a Palmetto Bowl in Charleston, but of course that would never happen. On that, I digress.

The reality is though is that most G5 programs don't have the fanbase to travel to fill up a stadium, even in smaller stadiums.

I'd rather see a system like the early NIT/NCAA where teams could choose whether they wanted to play in the NIT tournament or the NCAA tournament.

Have a G5 playoff of sorts after the CFP is expanded and finalized to include a G5 participant. The G5 teams could then choose to be in the "NIT" or in bowl games. I think most would choose to host an "NIT" playoff game if they could rather than burdening their fans to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to watch a game that really isn't any different from any other game they played that year.

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Have a G5 playoff of sorts after the CFP is expanded and finalized to include a G5 participant. The G5 teams could then choose to be in the "NIT" or in bowl games. I think most would choose to host an "NIT" playoff game if they could rather than burdening their fans to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to watch a game that really isn't any different from any other game they played that year.
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Disagree. It will only make the G5 more irrelevant than we already are. The access allows at least a guarantee of a major bowl for one lucky G5 boy or girl...pick me pick me.

(12-29-2014 11:21 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:10 AM)49erlew Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:45 AM)Matrix Wrote:  The conferences on the outside looking in where this mythical national championship is concerned should get together and brainstorm a way to create a playoff of their own...The bowl games, I still love watching them and should continue but for the winners of these particular conferences, there should be something more for them. A G-5 Playoff would increase fan bases, enhance recruiting and get the network's attention as well. If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu...Time for the "Outcast" Conferences to start establishing a championship of their own, & damn "BCS 2.0"...

I'm really not a fan of this... frankly, instituting a G5 playoff further divides the P5 from the G5 and makes out exclusion even easier for the P5 to perpetrate.

Say a G5 team actually does do what is needed to show up in that top four. I could imagine a large sentiment within the media, and more importantly the CFP committee, saying "Well look... y'all already have your own playoff."

What I would like to see, however, is the G5 conference band together to break the P5's stranglehold on the bowl games that fall during the time period in which bowl games should fall. Pool the resources to buy two bowl games: One in the East and one in the West. Place one on New Year's Eve, and one on New Year's Day. Screw you, ESPN. CBS or FOX would love to get their hands on a NYE/NYD bowl game to compete with ABCSPN. The G5 conferences, being the owners of these bowls, place the four G5 champs that did not get into the Access Bowl into these games as makes the most sense for ticket sales.

Set these games up in smaller stadiums that will likely sell out. My favorite game that I've watched so far, honestly, was the Military Bowl... because it was in a very small stadium that was absolutely packed. The atmosphere was fantastic, and it conveyed through the TV broadcast.

I'd love to see a Palmetto Bowl in Charleston, but of course that would never happen. On that, I digress.

The reality is though is that most G5 programs don't have the fanbase to travel to fill up a stadium, even in smaller stadiums.

I'd rather see a system like the early NIT/NCAA where teams could choose whether they wanted to play in the NIT tournament or the NCAA tournament.

Have a G5 playoff of sorts after the CFP is expanded and finalized to include a G5 participant. The G5 teams could then choose to be in the "NIT" or in bowl games. I think most would choose to host an "NIT" playoff game if they could rather than burdening their fans to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to watch a game that really isn't any different from any other game they played that year.

Attendance for G5 vs. G5 games last year:

New Orleans Bowl (Tulane vs. Louisiana) 54,728*
Armed Forces Bowl (Navy vs. MT) 39,246*
Heart of Dallas Bowl (UNLV vs. North Texas) 38,380*
GoDaddy Bowl (Arkansas State vs. Ball State) 36,119
Poinsettia (Utah State vs. NIU) 23,408
Potato Bowl (Buffalo vs. SDSU) 21,951
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl (ECU vs. Ohio) 20,053

*Games played very close to one or more of the teams involved.

I think the rise of MLS and its soccer-specific stadiums plays right into the G5's hands for bowl purposes. Put a bowl game in a 20-30k seat SSS and you'll have yourself a game in high demand in a very nice facility.

Between the StubHub center in LA, BBVA Compass Stadium in Houston, Yulman Stadium in NOLA, and the new Orlando City Stadium... I'd pick two of those and run with them. I think any of them would be great sites for G5 New Year's games.

(12-29-2014 12:47 PM)49erlew Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:21 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:10 AM)49erlew Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:45 AM)Matrix Wrote:  The conferences on the outside looking in where this mythical national championship is concerned should get together and brainstorm a way to create a playoff of their own...The bowl games, I still love watching them and should continue but for the winners of these particular conferences, there should be something more for them. A G-5 Playoff would increase fan bases, enhance recruiting and get the network's attention as well. If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu...Time for the "Outcast" Conferences to start establishing a championship of their own, & damn "BCS 2.0"...

I'm really not a fan of this... frankly, instituting a G5 playoff further divides the P5 from the G5 and makes out exclusion even easier for the P5 to perpetrate.

Say a G5 team actually does do what is needed to show up in that top four. I could imagine a large sentiment within the media, and more importantly the CFP committee, saying "Well look... y'all already have your own playoff."

What I would like to see, however, is the G5 conference band together to break the P5's stranglehold on the bowl games that fall during the time period in which bowl games should fall. Pool the resources to buy two bowl games: One in the East and one in the West. Place one on New Year's Eve, and one on New Year's Day. Screw you, ESPN. CBS or FOX would love to get their hands on a NYE/NYD bowl game to compete with ABCSPN. The G5 conferences, being the owners of these bowls, place the four G5 champs that did not get into the Access Bowl into these games as makes the most sense for ticket sales.

Set these games up in smaller stadiums that will likely sell out. My favorite game that I've watched so far, honestly, was the Military Bowl... because it was in a very small stadium that was absolutely packed. The atmosphere was fantastic, and it conveyed through the TV broadcast.

I'd love to see a Palmetto Bowl in Charleston, but of course that would never happen. On that, I digress.

The reality is though is that most G5 programs don't have the fanbase to travel to fill up a stadium, even in smaller stadiums.

I'd rather see a system like the early NIT/NCAA where teams could choose whether they wanted to play in the NIT tournament or the NCAA tournament.

Have a G5 playoff of sorts after the CFP is expanded and finalized to include a G5 participant. The G5 teams could then choose to be in the "NIT" or in bowl games. I think most would choose to host an "NIT" playoff game if they could rather than burdening their fans to travel hundreds or thousands of miles to watch a game that really isn't any different from any other game they played that year.

Attendance for G5 vs. G5 games last year:

New Orleans Bowl (Tulane vs. Louisiana) 54,728*
Armed Forces Bowl (Navy vs. MT) 39,246*
Heart of Dallas Bowl (UNLV vs. North Texas) 38,380*
GoDaddy Bowl (Arkansas State vs. Ball State) 36,119
Poinsettia (Utah State vs. NIU) 23,408
Potato Bowl (Buffalo vs. SDSU) 21,951
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl (ECU vs. Ohio) 20,053

*Games played very close to one or more of the teams involved.

I think the rise of MLS and its soccer-specific stadiums plays right into the G5's hands for bowl purposes. Put a bowl game in a 20-30k seat SSS and you'll have yourself a game in high demand in a very nice facility.

Between the StubHub center in LA, BBVA Compass Stadium in Houston, Yulman Stadium in NOLA, and the new Orlando City Stadium... I'd pick two of those and run with them. I think any of them would be great sites for G5 New Year's games.

Bowl attendance numbers are always majorly inflated because schools are required to buy a certain number of tickets, even if they don't actually sell them. Regardless those bowls were also local to at least one of the teams that was playing in the bowl game, so that helped too.

I have no doubts that Charlotte would take an embarrassingly low amount of people to any bowl game we play in unless it is driveable. I REALLY hope Charleston gets a bowl because none of the other CUSA bowl locations are going to be attractive to our fans.

(12-29-2014 01:18 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Bowl attendance numbers are always majorly inflated because schools are required to buy a certain number of tickets, even if they don't actually sell them. Regardless those bowls were also local to at least one of the teams that was playing in the bowl game, so that helped too.

I have no doubts that Charlotte would take an embarrassingly low amount of people to any bowl game we play in unless it is driveable. I REALLY hope Charleston gets a bowl because none of the other CUSA bowl locations are going to be attractive to our fans.

Not gonna happen, no matter how much I wish it would. That city hosts some of my fondest (and most hazy) memories. I'd consider the trip every year, whether Charlotte was playing or not.

Unfortunately, the NCAA won't get their noses out of places they don't belong, and the state of SC won't get its head out of its ass. I don't see this changing any time soon.

Any bowls this year played in a SSS? Intrigued by that idea because of the more reasonable stadium size.

You are right about our attendance. I can say for sure that I most likely will not be going unless it's drivable. I would drive to Florida. Establish another bowl in the Orlando city stadium for CUSA and I'm all over that. I could sell that to the family with a visit to Disney or Universal.

How long till we see a bowl in London?

(12-29-2014 11:13 PM)gassman Wrote:  Any bowls this year played in a SSS? Intrigued by that idea because of the more reasonable stadium size.

You are right about our attendance. I can say for sure that I most likely will not be going unless it's drivable. I would drive to Florida. Establish another bowl in the Orlando city stadium for CUSA and I'm all over that. I could sell that to the family with a visit to Disney or Universal.

The Bahamas Bowl is in a Track & Soccer Stadium

(12-30-2014 09:40 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:13 PM)gassman Wrote:  Any bowls this year played in a SSS? Intrigued by that idea because of the more reasonable stadium size.

You are right about our attendance. I can say for sure that I most likely will not be going unless it's drivable. I would drive to Florida. Establish another bowl in the Orlando city stadium for CUSA and I'm all over that. I could sell that to the family with a visit to Disney or Universal.

The Bahamas Bowl is in a Track & Soccer Stadium

vs.



The difference is astonishing.

Back to the original question, Toyota Field (FC Dallas) hosts the FCS Championship Game now.

(12-30-2014 09:40 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 11:13 PM)gassman Wrote:  Any bowls this year played in a SSS? Intrigued by that idea because of the more reasonable stadium size.

You are right about our attendance. I can say for sure that I most likely will not be going unless it's drivable. I would drive to Florida. Establish another bowl in the Orlando city stadium for CUSA and I'm all over that. I could sell that to the family with a visit to Disney or Universal.

The Bahamas Bowl is in a Track & Soccer Stadium

The track was blue and looked like the seats were a mile away from field..Sightline from pictures did not look great...

there is no doubt attendance is down.....

it's achieving nascar status....