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(12-27-2014 07:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Say what you want but I think a police officer doing this to the mayor at a funeral of all places seriously crosses the line.

I don't. SOB deserved it.

Absolute worst case, still not nearly as far out of line as robbing and vandalizing property of innocent people.
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I don't hate cops. Just the ones who kill unarmed men.
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Respect has to be earned. DeBlasio is a clown, in way over his head.
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In my opinion they should have used another venue to show their displeasure with leadership. A funeral where the Mayor is showing his respects??? Not the best place.
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(12-27-2014 08:12 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Respect has to be earned. DeBlasio is a clown, in way over his head.

Exactly! How do you expect your workers to respect you if you don't respect them?
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(12-27-2014 07:26 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 07:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 06:58 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  It's like a coaching staff. Rip each other behind closed doors but not in Public. DeBlasio violated that rule.
He NEVER went out of his way to praise the policing methods that worked just lumped them all together. He needed to give respect to earn more than respect than for his title.

when you have a f***upas big as Garner you kinda forfeit the arrangement to keep internal disputes behind closed doors. Say what you want but I think a police officer doing this to the mayor at a funeral of all places seriously crosses the line. Can you imagine the sh-t storm that would follow if military officers did this to the POTUS?

Unless they have changed UCMJ, they can't. (Article 88 if you are too lazy to look)

thanks for proving my point.
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(12-27-2014 07:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't hate cops. Just the ones who kill unarmed men.

Unless they are within your critical killing radius you advocated in another thread. C'mon man keep up with your troll posts. Or at least respond with more than 2 sentences
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(12-27-2014 07:19 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 07:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 06:58 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  It's like a coaching staff. Rip each other behind closed doors but not in Public. DeBlasio violated that rule.
He NEVER went out of his way to praise the policing methods that worked just lumped them all together. He needed to give respect to earn more than respect than for his title.

when you have a f***upas big as Garner you kinda forfeit the arrangement to keep internal disputes behind closed doors. Say what you want but I think a police officer doing this to the mayor at a funeral of all places seriously crosses the line. Can you imagine the sh-t storm that would follow if military officers did this to the POTUS?


John - military personnel don't belong to a union. I thought you were all about unions. You think they could get away with it without the union.

unlike the NYPD's attitude towards the mayor, my support for unions is not unconditional. Just an fyi correctional officer unions & police officer unions are at the top of my union sh-t list because of their tendency to block common sense reforms & open hostilities to civil rights.

(12-27-2014 07:20 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 04:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How disrespectful. It's the problem that many police departments have.

(12-27-2014 05:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  2. The Mayor works for the NYPD not the citizens of NY.

So all of a sudden a show of solidarity by union members is a bad thing? We've said that often on this board, but not in this case.

lets not pretend that this is your typical "show of solidarity by union members." I would appreciate a little bit of common courtesy to not make such a massive spin on something so obvious. This was at a funeral, how often do other unions take their grievances to funerals? It's in extremely bad taste.
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(12-27-2014 08:41 PM)john01992 Wrote:  It's in extremely bad taste.

Ferguson had riots, looting and buildings burned. Crowds chanted for dead cops "now." Jackson and Sharpton capitalized on dead people. Obama said "stay the course" to protestors. Holder made speeches about blacks being mistreated. The White House sent officials to the funeral of a dead criminal and didn't support the cop. de Blasio ran for office on an anti-cop campaign. And you criticize the cops when they felt like they got screwed. Perhaps they should have protested and burnt down buildings or maybe go on strike and leave NYC lawless. Those are the actions the left typically support.
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(12-27-2014 07:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 07:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Say what you want but I think a police officer doing this to the mayor at a funeral of all places seriously crosses the line.

I don't. SOB deserved it.

Absolute worst case, still not nearly as far out of line as robbing and vandalizing property of innocent people.

On December 3, 2014, de Blasio stated in a speech following a grand jury decision not to indict NYPD officer Daniel Panteleo in the death of Eric Garner that he and his black wife Chirlane McCray, had had many conversations[92] with their son regarding taking "special care in any encounters he has with the police officers who are there to protect him."[93] The mayor explained that what he and his wife did was "What parents have done for decades who have children of color, especially young men of color, [which] is train them to be very careful whenever they have an encounter with a police officer," adding "I have talked to many families of color. They have had to have the same conversation with their sons."[94] In response, the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association of the City of New York, a labor union for police officers, issued a flier encouraging members to request that de Blasio as well as Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Vivereto not attend their funerals should they die in the line of duty.[95]

yeah you're right owl, how dare the mayor remind his son about police officers being there to protect him. how DARE tell his son to take special care in any encounters he has with the police officers. how DARE he say to his son what most parents who have a child of color talk to their sons about.

===============sarcasm off================

but in all seriousness what he did was teach his son a valuable life lesson that every parent who has a child of color should teach their children. What he told his son is something that the NYPD would be BETTER OFF if more parents had these types of conversations with their children as it would reduce incidents such as garner & brown.

de blasio is being blamed by the NYPD because he did the right thing. because he acknowledged a legitimate notion that police departments all across the country refuse to admit exists.

but according to you and several other conservative posters here, he deserved it, he had it coming, why? because you guys are like sheep following the fox news circle jerk and pretending the police can do no wrong. in typical fashion blindly follow them because its the patriotic thing to do. do GOPers on here actually realize that de blasio & the NYPD reached their breaking point BEFORE the killings of these two officers? that the NYPD & mayor were in deep conflict before the Garner incident?

no they don't and like sheep yall are gobbling up this stuff which is literally propaganda.
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Nice try John but you are dead solid wrong.
The incident you are describing has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. And I don't believe I've watched as much as one minute of Fox commentary on the event. My comments are based entirely on his actions with respect to the two murdered officers and his repeated police bashing comments. I have exactly zero complaints about his telling his son that. I don't agree with grandstanding about it.
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(12-27-2014 09:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Nice try John but you are dead solid wrong.
The incident you are describing has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. And I don't believe I've watched as much as one minute of Fox commentary on the event. My comments are based entirely on his actions with respect to the two murdered officers and his repeated police bashing comments. I have exactly zero complaints about his telling his son that. I don't agree with grandstanding about it.

what exactly has he done to bash the police? not defending the NYPD on an issue that public opinion clearly says the NYPD was at fault? if more politicians were like him the country would be much better off. the NYPD is just pissy because they don't have the political clout to force a mayor to have unconditional support for them.

you keep saying the animosity towards him is warranted but you can't cite a legitimate reason as to why it's warranted? what "actions" are you basing it on?
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He ran for office on an anti-police campaign message. I agree that the police appear to have been wrong in the Garner incident, but he has overplayed that. The incident you quoted regarding his son was unnecessary grandstanding. Not what he said to his son, but the way he grandstanded it. And he didn't exactly go out of his way to react to the murdered officers.

I suppose it depends on viewpoint. If you start from a point of view that hates police, you probably don't see anything wrong with anything he has done.

The police work for him. A good leader backs up his troops in public, and takes appropriate corrective action in private.

Again, it probably depends on expectations. I probably can't explain what I find offensive, because you don't find that kind of behavior offensive.

He's the leader. He has pissed off the police. It's HIS responsibility as leader to address the problem.
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(12-27-2014 09:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 09:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Nice try John but you are dead solid wrong.
The incident you are describing has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. And I don't believe I've watched as much as one minute of Fox commentary on the event. My comments are based entirely on his actions with respect to the two murdered officers and his repeated police bashing comments. I have exactly zero complaints about his telling his son that. I don't agree with grandstanding about it.

what exactly has he done to bash the police? not defending the NYPD on an issue that public opinion clearly says the NYPD was at fault? if more politicians were like him the country would be much better off. the NYPD is just pissy because they don't have the political clout to force a mayor to have unconditional support for them.

you keep saying the animosity towards him is warranted but you can't cite a legitimate reason as to why it's warranted? what "actions" are you basing it on?

The cops don't like him for no reason at all. That the cops don't respect him should be telling enough for you.
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NY Mayor Bill de Blasio arrives two hours late to wake for slain NYPD officer

On Friday evening, thousands of New Yorkers attended a memorial service for Rafael Ramos, one of the two NYPD officers assassinated a week ago by an Eric Garner protester. The service brought mourners from every corner of the city. Noticeably late was embattled Mayor Bill de Blasio, who made it to the service only just before its conclusion.

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(12-27-2014 09:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  what exactly has he done to bash the police? not defending the NYPD on an issue that public opinion clearly says the NYPD was at fault? if more politicians were like him the country would be much better off. the NYPD is just pissy because they don't have the political clout to force a mayor to have unconditional support for them.
you keep saying the animosity towards him is warranted but you can't cite a legitimate reason as to why it's warranted? what "actions" are you basing it on?

Do you really think the police decided almost unanimously to dislike him for no reason at all?

His animosity toward police has been pretty consistently displayed. He ran for election on an anti-police campaign and he has been fairly consistently hostile toward them since taking office.

Again, he's the leader, it's his job to make amends.
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DeBlasio is 50% Bernie Sanders and 50% hippie ("I hate the fuzz, man").
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(12-27-2014 09:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  He ran for office on an anti-police campaign message. I agree that the police appear to have been wrong in the Garner incident, but he has overplayed that. The incident you quoted regarding his son was unnecessary grandstanding. Not what he said to his son, but the way he grandstanded it. And he didn't exactly go out of his way to react to the murdered officers.

I suppose it depends on viewpoint. If you start from a point of view that hates police, you probably don't see anything wrong with anything he has done.

The police work for him. A good leader backs up his troops in public, and takes appropriate corrective action in private.

Again, it probably depends on expectations. I probably can't explain what I find offensive, because you don't find that kind of behavior offensive.

He's the leader. He has pissed off the police. It's HIS responsibility as leader to address the problem.

you do realize that I listed his reforms for the NYPD and all 5 of them were pretty common sense. lemme repost

1. Ended "stop & frisk"

2. Stopped NYPD from placing unofficial quotas on their officers. (The NYPD was already barred from official placing quotas on officers)

3. stopped NYPD from using condoms as evidence in prostitution arrests

4. ended a controversial "demographics" surveillance unit

5. gave the NYPD an "F" for complying with legally mandated record requests.

all five of those were common sense reforms. two of them were flat out illegal to begin with before the mayor took office. Two more of them the city was fighting a losing court battle trying to defend. your stance is that he deserves it because he had an anti-police campaign message. to use that as justification further proves my notion that some here believe the police can do no wrong. I mean how dare a mayor run on trying to reform the NYPD?

the grandstanding example is a piss poor excuse imo. this was a national issue and it was perfectly reasonable for him to comment on it like that. In fact it would be to the NYPDs benefit to have people talking about that topic because it would prevent more incidents like Garner. but then again what constitutes grandstanding is opinion. is it appropriate for politicians to comment on race relations like martin, brown, & garner is where liberals & cons butt heads extremely hard opinion wise.

and I must say, de blasio was clearly in the right with his campaign agenda considering the current state of affairs. the NYPDs support for the officer who killed Garner is sickening, the NYPDs attitude that support for them from the public & mayors office should be unconditional is sickening, and lastly this protest at a funeral is extremely sickening.
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That's the point. You agree with everything he is doing, so you see nothing wrong. I don't.

You're not going to convince me and I'm not going to convince you.
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(12-27-2014 09:34 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 09:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(12-27-2014 09:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Nice try John but you are dead solid wrong.
The incident you are describing has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. And I don't believe I've watched as much as one minute of Fox commentary on the event. My comments are based entirely on his actions with respect to the two murdered officers and his repeated police bashing comments. I have exactly zero complaints about his telling his son that. I don't agree with grandstanding about it.

what exactly has he done to bash the police? not defending the NYPD on an issue that public opinion clearly says the NYPD was at fault? if more politicians were like him the country would be much better off. the NYPD is just pissy because they don't have the political clout to force a mayor to have unconditional support for them.

you keep saying the animosity towards him is warranted but you can't cite a legitimate reason as to why it's warranted? what "actions" are you basing it on?

The cops don't like him for no reason at all. That the cops don't respect him should be telling enough for you.

the logic you are using is a joke. yeah lets ignore the mayor forcing the NYPD to abide by the law and accept civil rights. lets not pretend that most of the things he implemented the city was fighting a losing battle against anyway trying to defend in court.
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