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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
(12-29-2014 11:55 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 06:46 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  College football's glory days:

Sugar Bowl - on New Year's Eve, in the evening
Cotton Bowl - New Year's Day, 12:00 noon
Rose Bowl - New Year's Day, 4:00 pm
Orange Bowl - New Year's Day, 8:00 pm

Yep, that's what anyone over 40 remembers. Classic.

Not really.

Sugar was only on New Year's Eve 1972-75. The night Miami beat Nebraska the Sugar was going head-to-head against the game.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
(12-29-2014 11:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 11:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Bowls are afraid of going with Fox. So far Fox hasn't shown they can deliver the audience the sponsors want and fear ESPN will hurt the audience even more by scheduling a game opposit of them. Fox would have to really toss nice rights fees their way to make up the difference and keep the affiliated leagues happy.

Next year I think the Sun Bowl (CBS) and Cure (NBCSN) will be the only non-ESPN family games.

Fox went to the bowl meetings hoping to snag 5-10 games and got none.

You're right, it's almost guaranteed that ESPN would schedule one of their bowl games in the same time slot as any game on FS1. But I did notice that there is only one bowl this year on ESPN2, the Outback on NYD opposite a CFP game (this year, the Cotton) on ESPN. I wonder if competitive bidding from Fox led to ESPN promising some bowls that their game would be on ESPN and not ESPN2.

Now if Fox was offering Fox broadcast for a bowl game, they would draw some interest.

Yeah OTA network would get noticed. Most interesting change to me was Independence. It has been stuck in some bad workday time slots and often on ESPN2. For some reason this year they landed on Saturday and on ABC. Be willing to bet they were close to taking their Big XII - SEC match-up to Fox.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
(12-30-2014 10:38 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 11:55 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 06:46 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  College football's glory days:

Sugar Bowl - on New Year's Eve, in the evening
Cotton Bowl - New Year's Day, 12:00 noon
Rose Bowl - New Year's Day, 4:00 pm
Orange Bowl - New Year's Day, 8:00 pm

Yep, that's what anyone over 40 remembers. Classic.

Not really.

Sugar was only on New Year's Eve 1972-75. The night Miami beat Nebraska the Sugar was going head-to-head against the game.

Well, that's when it was best ... on New Year's Eve.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
The ratings should be fine, every bar, restaurant& most workplaces will have the games on. Either way this just gives many another reason to do even less work
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NFL will crush all these games in the ratings, CFB is minor league.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
NFL is the highest rated programming in America by far. It crushes everything.

Realistically, you want college football to be ahead of Nascar, since it is a predominantly southern sport. Since football is the most popular sport in the country, the national ratings should be better than the Final Four for college basketball by almost double or triple. Those are the two sports you want to compare Bowl Game ratings to. CF should beat out huge one day Nascar events and March Madness.

A large portion of sports fans do not care about college athletics, and there is no way to tap into that market.
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The CBB F4 beat BCS bowl games save the best 1 or 2 games. It'll be interesting to see how much the F4 CFB games draw this year.
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1st two games aren't doing much for ratings, at least so far. Boise up 3 TDs in 1st Q.
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It would have been bad to have these games in prime time, but it still would be better than any other ESPN options. To maximize revenue, you want to have these four games in prime time leading into the national title. But that's just me. I had today off, but these games aren't worth my time. Going out tonight to celebrate New Years.
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Will CFP regret putting big games on Dec. 31? Yesterday's Peach Bowl got a 3.4 TV rating, its lowest in six years, lower than any BCS bowl.

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Orange (5.0) and Fiesta (4.6) also would have ranked near the lowest TV rating of the BCS era. Next year those time slots are semifinals.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
(12-30-2014 10:38 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(12-29-2014 11:55 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-28-2014 06:46 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  College football's glory days:

Sugar Bowl - on New Year's Eve, in the evening
Cotton Bowl - New Year's Day, 12:00 noon
Rose Bowl - New Year's Day, 4:00 pm
Orange Bowl - New Year's Day, 8:00 pm

Yep, that's what anyone over 40 remembers. Classic.

Not really.

Sugar was only on New Year's Eve 1972-75. The night Miami beat Nebraska the Sugar was going head-to-head against the game.

12/31/1995 Sugar Bowl says "Hi!"
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Overnights show mixed results. Really bad ratings, but not bad for NYD. Orange, with a 5.0, had its 2nd lowest in over 20 years (WVU/Clemson blowout was the worst). Fiesta, with a 4.6, had its lowest since at least 1985. Peach, 3.4, had its lowest since at least 2006. On the other hand, all these bowls did much better than the bowls in those time slots last year. For example, the Peach was 143% higher than last year's AZ/BC Indepdendence Bowl.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
think you have to look at the teams this NYE....
TCU, Ole Miss, Boise, Arizona, Ga Tech, Miss St

of the 6- quite frankly Boise is the best TV draw right now.
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I usually think the impact of ESPN promotion is overrated, but for at least for this year, almost their entire bowl promotion was focused on the 2 playoff semifinal games. The other "New Year's Six" games were only given cursory promotion in the past week. This is quite different from the BCS system when the non-championship BCS bowls received quite a bit of promotion. Granted, I don't blame ESPN because the sports world was pretty directly hyper-interested in the playoff games specifically.
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RE: Isn't the NYE Bowl schedule bad for ratings?
HUGE overnight numbers for the playoff games:

Rose Bowl: 15.5
Sugar Bowl: 15.3

For comparison, last year's national championship game drew a 15.3. The CFP access bowls might have had dire ratings, but the playoff games exceeded expectations. Most media people thought they would be high, but there wasn't an expectation that they'd match or exceed the previous title game numbers.


http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/02/college...telecasts/
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I think one thing to remember- think the every 3 years where the Rose/Sugar host the semi's- we're going to see the ratings very similar to what we saw this year.

The other 2 years, I fully expect the Rose/Sugar to still get real good ratings. The Rose will always get good ratings and the Sugar should get solid ones as well. And the semifinals will always get real good ratings.
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(01-02-2015 02:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think one thing to remember- think the every 3 years where the Rose/Sugar host the semi's- we're going to see the ratings very similar to what we saw this year.

The other 2 years, I fully expect the Rose/Sugar to still get real good ratings. The Rose will always get good ratings and the Sugar should get solid ones as well. And the semifinals will always get real good ratings.

I wonder about that. The potential semifinal ratings are what they had this year. The difference between this year's semifinal ratings and next year's Dec. 31 semifinal ratings will be all the viewership they are pizzing away by stubbornly thinking the audiences will be large on Dec. 31, based on some hazy and inaccurate nostalgia for 1960s through 1980s Orange Bowl games, all of which were actually played on January 1 or 2 and not on Dec. 31.

(And if you're thinking, "No, wait, I meant it was the Sugar Bowl that was always played on New Year's Eve," sorry, no -- the Sugar Bowl was only played on NYE four times in that 1960s through 1980s period.)
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I think a big reason why they are doing it on NYE rather than Jan 2 is the fact that they want to give teams more time between the SF and the title game quite frankly.. Also Jan 2 folks are back to work most years so a 5pm et start and you are messing with a lot of the country.

And having it on Jan 2 and 3 1 each night is a non starter from a competitive standpoint.
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