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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 02:42 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: Apparently he thought UConn being located where it is couldn't be successful at the FBS level. Randy Edsall prove that to be dead wrong Yukon can be very successful at the FBS level.? all we need is a good coach.
Sadly I don't believe we have that yet and I think we're going to struggle till Diaco is gone.
Diaco was a bad hire. I said it when UCONN hired him. Some UCONN fans didn't want to hear it. We were GLAD when he left town after 2009. His 3-4 defense was a cluster at UC in the ONE year we had him here.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 08:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 02:42 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: Apparently he thought UConn being located where it is couldn't be successful at the FBS level. Randy Edsall prove that to be dead wrong Yukon can be very successful at the FBS level.? all we need is a good coach.
Sadly I don't believe we have that yet and I think we're going to struggle till Diaco is gone.
Diaco was a bad hire. I said it when UCONN hired him. Some UCONN fans didn't want to hear it. We were GLAD when he left town after 2009. His 3-4 defense was a cluster at UC in the ONE year we had him here.
I'm confused, who was the d-coordinator at ND the year they went to the BCS title game?
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 08:41 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:25 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: USF evidently was just not a good fit for Skip. I thought he would do well there..but..it just did not work out. He seems to be very good at rebuilding programs if given time to install his schemes and get the players on board. USF was not willing to wait that out. I'd take him back at ECU in a heartbeat. Unlike some ECU fans...I fully understood him taking the USF job and did not hold it against him. Im glad to see him do well at La Tech. I had a feeling he would do well there.
Why would you take him back in a heartbeat? So every year you could hear about the next job offer he was entertaining and worry about where he's gonna end up? Cringe every time a coach gets fired just knowing they are gonna try and take yours? We have a very good coach the can recruit well and wants to be here for the long haul. Why in the hell would you would that hypocrite back? I don't understand why some have a love affair with the guy. Yes he did some good things when he was here but it was mainly the staff he had in place. Great D-coordinator in Greg Hudson which really made him look good. He could not recruit worth a crap and never has been able to. Sorry for the Rant I'm just so over hearing about people that would welcome him back. Screw that!
Greg Hudson, a great DC? He jumped ship as soon as if not sooner than skippy. Hudson looked good because of a NFL D-Lind, and Rick Smith.
They are Both great coaches and hell yea Greg Hudson left because he doubled his salary by going to FSU. Why would he of got a job at FSU if he wasn't good? If you don't think he was a great DC its because you are either
a) Crazy
b) totally infatuated with Skip Holtz
c) all of the above
A) perfectly sane
B) I have no strong feelings either way about Skippy
C) above
How did things work out for ol greg at FSU? I don't think he "doubled" his salary as a LB coach. Slight increase at most.
He is now of the DC of the 82nd defense in the Nation. Perdue. He's been there three years, plenty of time to put his guys in.
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RE: Skip Holtz
Skip was a terrible recruiter at USF, and once BJ Daniels went down with injury, he was doomed. He was unable to bring in a FBS QB in his time at USF. He has however brought in Sokol at La Tech and has had success, proving that if you have a QB, you have a chance. He couldn't bring one in at USF for whatever reason.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 09:08 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 02:42 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: Apparently he thought UConn being located where it is couldn't be successful at the FBS level. Randy Edsall prove that to be dead wrong Yukon can be very successful at the FBS level.? all we need is a good coach.
Sadly I don't believe we have that yet and I think we're going to struggle till Diaco is gone.
Diaco was a bad hire. I said it when UCONN hired him. Some UCONN fans didn't want to hear it. We were GLAD when he left town after 2009. His 3-4 defense was a cluster at UC in the ONE year we had him here.
I'm confused, who was the d-coordinator at ND the year they went to the BCS title game?
You mean the title game they got crushed in?
Look man you can defend all you want. All I can tell you is he SUCKED at defensive coordinator at UC. He took a base 4-3 defense and made it a 3-4 and it just didn't work. Many (if not all) UC fans were really glad when his one year at UC was over and he left. I am not convinced he will be the man at UCONN. But I guess time will tell.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 07:25 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: USF evidently was just not a good fit for Skip. I thought he would do well there..but..it just did not work out. He seems to be very good at rebuilding programs if given time to install his schemes and get the players on board. USF was not willing to wait that out. I'd take him back at ECU in a heartbeat. Unlike some ECU fans...I fully understood him taking the USF job and did not hold it against him. Im glad to see him do well at La Tech. I had a feeling he would do well there.
Why would you take him back in a heartbeat? So every year you could hear about the next job offer he was entertaining and worry about where he's gonna end up? Cringe every time a coach gets fired just knowing they are gonna try and take yours? We have a very good coach the can recruit well and wants to be here for the long haul. Why in the hell would you would that hypocrite back? I don't understand why some have a love affair with the guy. Yes he did some good things when he was here but it was mainly the staff he had in place. Great D-coordinator in Greg Hudson which really made him look good. He could not recruit worth a crap and never has been able to. Sorry for the Rant I'm just so over hearing about people that would welcome him back. Screw that!
I have no problem with Ruff. He is fine fellow. He is doing a good job with a good staff. I hope he retires in Greenville.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-27-2014 04:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 09:08 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 02:42 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: Apparently he thought UConn being located where it is couldn't be successful at the FBS level. Randy Edsall prove that to be dead wrong Yukon can be very successful at the FBS level.? all we need is a good coach.
Sadly I don't believe we have that yet and I think we're going to struggle till Diaco is gone.
Diaco was a bad hire. I said it when UCONN hired him. Some UCONN fans didn't want to hear it. We were GLAD when he left town after 2009. His 3-4 defense was a cluster at UC in the ONE year we had him here.
I'm confused, who was the d-coordinator at ND the year they went to the BCS title game?
You mean the title game they got crushed in?
Look man you can defend all you want. All I can tell you is he SUCKED at defensive coordinator at UC. He took a base 4-3 defense and made it a 3-4 and it just didn't work. Many (if not all) UC fans were really glad when his one year at UC was over and he left. I am not convinced he will be the man at UCONN. But I guess time will tell.
Shouldn't you and Stookey be giving each other reach-arounds over your hatred of Diaco?
He was the d-coordinator for the national runners-up in 2012. No matter how much you post to the contrary, he was still the FREAKING coach!!!
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RE: Skip Holtz
I think Jim Leavitt was THE coach for USF.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-27-2014 02:04 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: I think Jim Leavitt was THE coach for USF.
Surprised no one in college ranks has considered or hired Leavitt.
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Skip Holtz
(12-27-2014 05:01 PM)ECUgradstudent Wrote: (12-27-2014 02:04 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: I think Jim Leavitt was THE coach for USF.
Surprised no one in college ranks has considered or hired Leavitt.
Me too. The man has done something that few have: take a program from nothing to national talk
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-27-2014 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (12-27-2014 04:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 09:08 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 02:42 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: Apparently he thought UConn being located where it is couldn't be successful at the FBS level. Randy Edsall prove that to be dead wrong Yukon can be very successful at the FBS level.? all we need is a good coach.
Sadly I don't believe we have that yet and I think we're going to struggle till Diaco is gone.
Diaco was a bad hire. I said it when UCONN hired him. Some UCONN fans didn't want to hear it. We were GLAD when he left town after 2009. His 3-4 defense was a cluster at UC in the ONE year we had him here.
I'm confused, who was the d-coordinator at ND the year they went to the BCS title game?
You mean the title game they got crushed in?
Look man you can defend all you want. All I can tell you is he SUCKED at defensive coordinator at UC. He took a base 4-3 defense and made it a 3-4 and it just didn't work. Many (if not all) UC fans were really glad when his one year at UC was over and he left. I am not convinced he will be the man at UCONN. But I guess time will tell.
Shouldn't you and Stookey be giving each other reach-arounds over your hatred of Diaco?
He was the d-coordinator for the national runners-up in 2012. No matter how much you post to the contrary, he was still the FREAKING coach!!!
what i don't like is inconsistancy in a FB team, you beat ucf and loose to tulane, that smells coaching, only time will tell but I think we have the wrong guy.
two bad hires could loose the faithful for uconn fb.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-27-2014 05:09 PM)Stookey57 Wrote: (12-27-2014 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (12-27-2014 04:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (12-26-2014 09:08 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Diaco was a bad hire. I said it when UCONN hired him. Some UCONN fans didn't want to hear it. We were GLAD when he left town after 2009. His 3-4 defense was a cluster at UC in the ONE year we had him here.
I'm confused, who was the d-coordinator at ND the year they went to the BCS title game?
You mean the title game they got crushed in?
Look man you can defend all you want. All I can tell you is he SUCKED at defensive coordinator at UC. He took a base 4-3 defense and made it a 3-4 and it just didn't work. Many (if not all) UC fans were really glad when his one year at UC was over and he left. I am not convinced he will be the man at UCONN. But I guess time will tell.
Shouldn't you and Stookey be giving each other reach-arounds over your hatred of Diaco?
He was the d-coordinator for the national runners-up in 2012. No matter how much you post to the contrary, he was still the FREAKING coach!!!
what i don't like is inconsistancy in a FB team, you beat ucf and loose to tulane, that smells coaching, only time will tell but I think we have the wrong guy.
two bad hires could loose the faithful for uconn fb.
Yea, UCF's coaching
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 07:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:25 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: USF evidently was just not a good fit for Skip. I thought he would do well there..but..it just did not work out. He seems to be very good at rebuilding programs if given time to install his schemes and get the players on board. USF was not willing to wait that out. I'd take him back at ECU in a heartbeat. Unlike some ECU fans...I fully understood him taking the USF job and did not hold it against him. Im glad to see him do well at La Tech. I had a feeling he would do well there.
Why would you take him back in a heartbeat? So every year you could hear about the next job offer he was entertaining and worry about where he's gonna end up? Cringe every time a coach gets fired just knowing they are gonna try and take yours? We have a very good coach the can recruit well and wants to be here for the long haul. Why in the hell would you would that hypocrite back? I don't understand why some have a love affair with the guy. Yes he did some good things when he was here but it was mainly the staff he had in place. Great D-coordinator in Greg Hudson which really made him look good. He could not recruit worth a crap and never has been able to. Sorry for the Rant I'm just so over hearing about people that would welcome him back. Screw that!
Greg Hudson, a great DC? He jumped ship as soon as if not sooner than skippy. Hudson looked good because of a NFL D-Lind, and Rick Smith.
Yeah, he left right after the bowl before skippy, but he saw the writing on the wall, that D was going to suck the next year, 9 of 11 starters gone, 5 D lineman signed NFL contracts, 17 players on the D side gone in one year. And, FSU was offering double the pay. Hell, I love ECU as much as anyone, but that would be hard for me not to yes to FSU. Looking at a massive rebuild build on D and it was going to be pretty, which it wasn't and FSU offering to double your pay.
Plus, Hud was in charge of that D that was top 2 in CUSA for 3 years and real reason we won two titles. Staying it not a mark of a great coach, having a top 30 D and knowing when to get out and double your salary at the same time is.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 11:04 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:41 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:25 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: USF evidently was just not a good fit for Skip. I thought he would do well there..but..it just did not work out. He seems to be very good at rebuilding programs if given time to install his schemes and get the players on board. USF was not willing to wait that out. I'd take him back at ECU in a heartbeat. Unlike some ECU fans...I fully understood him taking the USF job and did not hold it against him. Im glad to see him do well at La Tech. I had a feeling he would do well there.
Why would you take him back in a heartbeat? So every year you could hear about the next job offer he was entertaining and worry about where he's gonna end up? Cringe every time a coach gets fired just knowing they are gonna try and take yours? We have a very good coach the can recruit well and wants to be here for the long haul. Why in the hell would you would that hypocrite back? I don't understand why some have a love affair with the guy. Yes he did some good things when he was here but it was mainly the staff he had in place. Great D-coordinator in Greg Hudson which really made him look good. He could not recruit worth a crap and never has been able to. Sorry for the Rant I'm just so over hearing about people that would welcome him back. Screw that!
Greg Hudson, a great DC? He jumped ship as soon as if not sooner than skippy. Hudson looked good because of a NFL D-Lind, and Rick Smith.
They are Both great coaches and hell yea Greg Hudson left because he doubled his salary by going to FSU. Why would he of got a job at FSU if he wasn't good? If you don't think he was a great DC its because you are either
a) Crazy
b) totally infatuated with Skip Holtz
c) all of the above
A) perfectly sane
B) I have no strong feelings either way about Skippy
C) above
How did things work out for ol greg at FSU? I don't think he "doubled" his salary as a LB coach. Slight increase at most.
He is now of the DC of the 82nd defense in the Nation. Perdue. He's been there three years, plenty of time to put his guys in.
Both in bold are wrong. He did nearly double his pay. How did it work out? Got offered 450k a year by Perdue. He has been there two years, same time as Rick Smith has been here. Now taking the Purdue job was IMO, a bad move Perdue wasn't doing good and isn't looking like it will turn around anytime soon. Plus, Perdue hasn't really ever been a top team anyway. A few really good years here and there. But, not much, enough to provide hope for their fans and build some history and tradition ah la NC State. I would have held out another year.
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-26-2014 11:04 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:41 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:25 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: USF evidently was just not a good fit for Skip. I thought he would do well there..but..it just did not work out. He seems to be very good at rebuilding programs if given time to install his schemes and get the players on board. USF was not willing to wait that out. I'd take him back at ECU in a heartbeat. Unlike some ECU fans...I fully understood him taking the USF job and did not hold it against him. Im glad to see him do well at La Tech. I had a feeling he would do well there.
Why would you take him back in a heartbeat? So every year you could hear about the next job offer he was entertaining and worry about where he's gonna end up? Cringe every time a coach gets fired just knowing they are gonna try and take yours? We have a very good coach the can recruit well and wants to be here for the long haul. Why in the hell would you would that hypocrite back? I don't understand why some have a love affair with the guy. Yes he did some good things when he was here but it was mainly the staff he had in place. Great D-coordinator in Greg Hudson which really made him look good. He could not recruit worth a crap and never has been able to. Sorry for the Rant I'm just so over hearing about people that would welcome him back. Screw that!
Greg Hudson, a great DC? He jumped ship as soon as if not sooner than skippy. Hudson looked good because of a NFL D-Lind, and Rick Smith.
They are Both great coaches and hell yea Greg Hudson left because he doubled his salary by going to FSU. Why would he of got a job at FSU if he wasn't good? If you don't think he was a great DC its because you are either
a) Crazy
b) totally infatuated with Skip Holtz
c) all of the above
A) perfectly sane
B) I have no strong feelings either way about Skippy
C) above
How did things work out for ol greg at FSU? I don't think he "doubled" his salary as a LB coach. Slight increase at most.
He is now of the DC of the 82nd defense in the Nation. Perdue. He's been there three years, plenty of time to put his guys in.
He did double his salary as their LB's coach. Google it. So much wrong with the above post. Seems like you don't know much about what you're talking about!
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RE: Skip Holtz
(12-27-2014 06:52 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 11:04 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (12-26-2014 08:41 PM)Mikeyp Wrote: (12-26-2014 07:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: [quote='Mikeyp' pid='11591146' dateline='1419639913']
Why would you take him back in a heartbeat? So every year you could hear about the next job offer he was entertaining and worry about where he's gonna end up? Cringe every time a coach gets fired just knowing they are gonna try and take yours? We have a very good coach the can recruit well and wants to be here for the long haul. Why in the hell would you would that hypocrite back? I don't understand why some have a love affair with the guy. Yes he did some good things when he was here but it was mainly the staff he had in place. Great D-coordinator in Greg Hudson which really made him look good. He could not recruit worth a crap and never has been able to. Sorry for the Rant I'm just so over hearing about people that would welcome him back. Screw that!
Greg Hudson, a great DC? He jumped ship as soon as if not sooner than skippy. Hudson looked good because of a NFL D-Lind, and Rick Smith.
They are Both great coaches and hell yea Greg Hudson left because he doubled his salary by going to FSU. Why would he of got a job at FSU if he wasn't good? If you don't think he was a great DC its because you are either
a) Crazy
b) totally infatuated with Skip Holtz
c) all of the above
A) perfectly sane
B) I have no strong feelings either way about Skippy
C) above
How did things work out for ol greg at FSU? I don't think he "doubled" his salary as a LB coach. Slight increase at most.
He is now of the DC of the 82nd defense in the Nation. Perdue. He's been there three years, plenty of time to put his guys in.
Double Post.
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