Biggest losers-
New Mexico State
Idaho
UMass
UC/UConn/USF
Fans of any non-P5 school
Fans who enjoy college football being inclusive to more than a handful of teams

(12-27-2014 10:30 PM)insomniaisevil Wrote:  Fans who enjoy college football being inclusive to more than a handful of teams

Most college football fans don't care about the machinations of the athletic programs and what is REALLY going on. Most fans just want to see Alabama vs. Texas (or something of that nature) on primetime TV. Most fans are insensitive and/or disinterested in new brands questioning the "big boys" (the teams that they REALLY want to see).

The new system is catered to those people - who BADLY outnumber the clued in G5 fans. This is why the P5 will get away with the split - and in fact they may even been applauded for doing it.

I think every city with a population of over 100,000 people should be mandated to have an NFL team there. I mean, that is the size of Green Bay so if they deserve to have a team then so does everyone else right?

(12-27-2014 10:39 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 10:30 PM)insomniaisevil Wrote:  Fans who enjoy college football being inclusive to more than a handful of teams

Most college football fans don't care about the machinations of the athletic programs and what is REALLY going on. Most fans just want to see Alabama vs. Texas (or something of that nature) on primetime TV. Most fans are insensitive and/or disinterested in new brands questioning the "big boys" (the teams that they REALLY want to see).

The new system is catered to those people - who BADLY outnumber the clued in G5 fans. This is why the P5 will get away with the split - and in fact they may even been applauded for doing it.

Very realistic post.

(12-27-2014 10:01 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 12:47 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

maize Wrote:Not really the case with Louisville...even in the Old BIG EAST/American only Texas and Oklahoma outpaced Louisville in terms of generating $$$...with the infusion of ACC $$$ the gap between Louisville and the rest of the Big XII not named Texas or Oklahoma will widen...

UofL, thanks to the sweetheart YUM Center deal and great fan support, is certainly in great $$$$ shape athletically.

Please stop attempting to speak on things you don't know. Louisville's "sweetheart" Deal with the KFF Yum center calls for them to pay more money for 22 games to the city that ANY professional team in any sport but one pays to theor city for their venue. Without exception (aside from the Houston Rockets). If that is a "sweetheart"
Deal, than it makes it at beat the 121st best deal in the country.

Oh and for the record, they still ranked in about the same spot before YUM was in the oxiture, still number one in basketball revenue, the only difference being the "profit" for basketball ranked second compared to every other teams' "revenue,"
And overall income being top 30 instead of top 20.

... Your standards of comparison are a joke. If I made $10 million in year X, which was #1 in that category that year, and then signed a new deal and made $20 million in Y, still #1, it would be RIDICULOUS to say "well, the new deal didn't matter, because I was #1 before it and #1 after it", when obviously there is a massive difference between $10m and $20m.

I acknowledged that UofL has fantastic basketball fans, and did so before YUM. But YUM has added about $15m a year in basketball revenue. That's massive.

And just because UofL's YUM deal isn't AS SWEET as NBA deals doesn't mean it isn't a "sweetheart" deal. Of course it is. The YUM Center's bonds have been DOWNGRADED by Wall Street at least twice, while UofL baskebtall revenues SOAR in pure profit. That tells you who got the best end of the deal, so stop trying to SPIN things that you know to be true: UofL got a SWEEEET deal from YUM and the city.

Regardless...the University of Louisville due to the Basketball Revenue and the much increased revenue from Football due to Attendence, ACC Media Deals and also from the Adidas Deal which make Louisvile 3rd in the Nation behind Notre Dame and Michigan UofL will be able to keep up with the Jones...

(12-28-2014 09:39 AM)Maize Wrote:  Regardless...the University of Louisville due to the Basketball Revenue and the much increased revenue from Football due to Attendence, ACC Media Deals and also from the Adidas Deal which make Louisvile 3rd in the Nation behind Notre Dame and Michigan UofL will be able to keep up with the Jones...

Don't get me wrong: I don't blame UofL for signing that YUM sweetheart deal, I applaud you. UofL negotiators did what was best for UofL, which is their job. It's the city that is to blame. Heck, I wish USF could sign that kind of deal with somebody (though our pathetic fan support would prevent us from exploiting it). But there's no use denying it's a fantastic deal for UofL.

And yes, no doubt, with that new ACC money flowing in, UofL will be able to spend with just about anyone. Again, kudos.

(12-27-2014 10:16 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 03:03 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 02:08 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  We won 10 of 13 head to head recruit battles this year and if we hadn't fired our DC prematurely to try and get Muschamp, we'd probably have them too.

I agree that short term results don't equal long term futures but this is also the first time ever that the dynamic in the relationship has ever changed and can never be restored to what it was which is good for us.

But the nice thing is, being in seperate conferences means both teams can flourish simar to UF and FSU. I'm just fine with that being the case.

Heck, it would be great to see UT, A&M and TCU forming a core of teams regularly competing for the title like UF/FSU/Miami back in the day.

Oh, I fully agree with you that A&M is in a better place out from under the thumb of Texas. But only time will tell the whole story.

Just curious why Texas Tech is left out of this equation? I honestly believe we are a few defensive players away from doing some real damage in the Big 12.

It wasn't that long ago when we were the 2nd best team in Texas under Leach.

Texas Tech wasn't considered because they are still in the same conference. This is about schools that changed conferences, which doesn't include the Red Raiders. In this conversation, Texas Tech doesn't count.

You answered the question yourself.

Texas Tech is an afterthought in the battle for the hearts and minds of the state of Texas. The best they can hope for is #3 and thats in danger now. But at least Tech can still fight it out on the field by playing Texas every year.

(12-28-2014 12:40 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 10:16 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 03:03 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 02:08 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  We won 10 of 13 head to head recruit battles this year and if we hadn't fired our DC prematurely to try and get Muschamp, we'd probably have them too.

I agree that short term results don't equal long term futures but this is also the first time ever that the dynamic in the relationship has ever changed and can never be restored to what it was which is good for us.

But the nice thing is, being in seperate conferences means both teams can flourish simar to UF and FSU. I'm just fine with that being the case.

Heck, it would be great to see UT, A&M and TCU forming a core of teams regularly competing for the title like UF/FSU/Miami back in the day.

Oh, I fully agree with you that A&M is in a better place out from under the thumb of Texas. But only time will tell the whole story.

Just curious why Texas Tech is left out of this equation? I honestly believe we are a few defensive players away from doing some real damage in the Big 12.

It wasn't that long ago when we were the 2nd best team in Texas under Leach.

Texas Tech wasn't considered because they are still in the same conference. This is about schools that changed conferences, which doesn't include the Red Raiders. In this conversation, Texas Tech doesn't count.

I apologize, I missed that part.

(12-28-2014 06:30 PM)goofus Wrote:  You answered the question yourself.

Texas Tech is an afterthought in the battle for the hearts and minds of the state of Texas. The best they can hope for is #3 and thats in danger now. But at least Tech can still fight it out on the field by playing Texas every year.

Interesting, last time I checked Tech had the 3rd largest fan base in Texas.

I admit we made a mistake when our admin fired Leach but KK is slowly turning things around. We won't be down long.

How is Iowa doing? I haven't paid much attention to the Big 10. Anyways back to the winners and losers in conference realignment.

(12-28-2014 08:21 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 12:40 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 10:16 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 03:03 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-27-2014 02:08 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  We won 10 of 13 head to head recruit battles this year and if we hadn't fired our DC prematurely to try and get Muschamp, we'd probably have them too.

I agree that short term results don't equal long term futures but this is also the first time ever that the dynamic in the relationship has ever changed and can never be restored to what it was which is good for us.

But the nice thing is, being in seperate conferences means both teams can flourish simar to UF and FSU. I'm just fine with that being the case.

Heck, it would be great to see UT, A&M and TCU forming a core of teams regularly competing for the title like UF/FSU/Miami back in the day.

Oh, I fully agree with you that A&M is in a better place out from under the thumb of Texas. But only time will tell the whole story.

Just curious why Texas Tech is left out of this equation? I honestly believe we are a few defensive players away from doing some real damage in the Big 12.

It wasn't that long ago when we were the 2nd best team in Texas under Leach.

Texas Tech wasn't considered because they are still in the same conference. This is about schools that changed conferences, which doesn't include the Red Raiders. In this conversation, Texas Tech doesn't count.

I apologize, I missed that part.

Minor details.

(12-28-2014 09:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 09:39 AM)Maize Wrote:  Regardless...the University of Louisville due to the Basketball Revenue and the much increased revenue from Football due to Attendence, ACC Media Deals and also from the Adidas Deal which make Louisvile 3rd in the Nation behind Notre Dame and Michigan UofL will be able to keep up with the Jones...

Don't get me wrong: I don't blame UofL for signing that YUM sweetheart deal, I applaud you. UofL negotiators did what was best for UofL, which is their job. It's the city that is to blame. Heck, I wish USF could sign that kind of deal with somebody (though our pathetic fan support would prevent us from exploiting it). But there's no use denying it's a fantastic deal for UofL.

And yes, no doubt, with that new ACC money flowing in, UofL will be able to spend with just about anyone. Again, kudos.

Haven't seen the figures for 2014 yet but the YUM! Center has sold out a lot of Concerts and had many events almost daily so I think things will be moving into the Black at a much faster pace than was discussed earlier on. NCAA Regionals will also help . Businesses, Hotels, Bars and Restaurants around the Center have been Booming this year also.

(12-27-2014 09:41 PM)TyBull Wrote:  Biggest losers: UConn, USF & U Cincinnati. From the Big East and fat checks to the aac and small checks.

Those three are worse off than they were in 2009, yes. But not worse off than at any time prior to 2005.