(01-03-2015 06:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-03-2015 05:40 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-03-2015 03:32 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  The Next 5 Payout goes like this.

$90 million total split between the 5 conferences (this number rises over the years)

Of the $90 million:

- $12 million base per conferences. $12 million x 5 = $60 million
- Access Bowl Conference gets $6 million bonus paid for showing up in Fiesta Bowl
- $15 million split based on total conference strength. (just because Boise wins the Access Bowl spot at top rated team doesnt mean MWC is top rated top to bottom. $5 million for 1st place, $4 million for 2nd, $3 million for 3rd, $2 million for 4th, $1 million for last.
- The remaining approx. $9 million will be split on a per school basis based on reaching an APR threshhold. Reach the threshold, get $300,000 for your school. This has nothing to do with your conference, just your individual school.

MWC:

$12 million + $6 million Access bonus, + $4 million conference bonus, + APR money (lets say half get $300K for $1.8 million)

AAC:

$12 million + no access bonus + $5 million conference bonus, + APR money

CUSA:

$12 million + $3 million + APR

MAC:

$12 million + $2 million + APR

SBC:

$12 million + $1 million + APR.

Sum that all up and that will equal the $90 million pot split between all the Next 5.

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Is this official? Do you have the link?

Its not official. NCAA doesnt announce until after all G5 bowls have been played. SBC and MAC have a game tomorrow night, and given how close the two leagues were, it might decide who finishes last and who doesnt.

However, that is how the structure works whenever the NCAA does announce.

Oh I see...probably wishful thinking then by the Poster, a fan of a Mac school who hopes the MAC finishes higher than the sun belt as that how he has it listed.

(01-03-2015 09:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-03-2015 06:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-03-2015 05:40 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-03-2015 03:32 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  The Next 5 Payout goes like this.

$90 million total split between the 5 conferences (this number rises over the years)

Of the $90 million:

- $12 million base per conferences. $12 million x 5 = $60 million
- Access Bowl Conference gets $6 million bonus paid for showing up in Fiesta Bowl
- $15 million split based on total conference strength. (just because Boise wins the Access Bowl spot at top rated team doesnt mean MWC is top rated top to bottom. $5 million for 1st place, $4 million for 2nd, $3 million for 3rd, $2 million for 4th, $1 million for last.
- The remaining approx. $9 million will be split on a per school basis based on reaching an APR threshhold. Reach the threshold, get $300,000 for your school. This has nothing to do with your conference, just your individual school.

MWC:

$12 million + $6 million Access bonus, + $4 million conference bonus, + APR money (lets say half get $300K for $1.8 million)

AAC:

$12 million + no access bonus + $5 million conference bonus, + APR money

CUSA:

$12 million + $3 million + APR

MAC:

$12 million + $2 million + APR

SBC:

$12 million + $1 million + APR.

Sum that all up and that will equal the $90 million pot split between all the Next 5.

.

Is this official? Do you have the link?

Its not official. NCAA doesnt announce until after all G5 bowls have been played. SBC and MAC have a game tomorrow night, and given how close the two leagues were, it might decide who finishes last and who doesnt.

However, that is how the structure works whenever the NCAA does announce.

Oh I see...probably wishful thinking then by the Poster, a fan of a Mac school who hopes the MAC finishes higher than the sun belt as that how he has it listed.

Right -- there's no way that I can see the AAC finishing higher than the MWC. I think the AAC should be more concerned with CUSA than overtaking the MWC - since the former is more likely.

Looks like MWC gets the #1 spot for top rated G5 conference while CUSA Comes in 2nd and AAC coming in at #3!

http://www.herdzone.com/sports/m-footbl/...15aaa.html

MWC gets 23 million, split 12 ways, or 1.917 million per team

AAC gets 15 million, split 11 ways, or 1.364 million per team

CUSA gets 16 million, split 14 ways, or 1.143 million per team

(01-18-2015 03:59 PM)HerdFan_n_WV Wrote:  Looks like MWC gets the #1 spot for top rated G5 conference while CUSA Comes in 2nd and the AAC in 3rd!

Yep, and it is a fair assessment. All the computers have us behind CUSA.

Third among the G5! It was a bad year for us, need to step it up, and soon.

Among G5 teams, we had 3 in the final top 10 ... Memphis (#3), Cincy (#9), and UCF (#10).

I think you would find few sports fans that think Conf USA is better than AAC in football or basketball.It is not even clear if Conf Usa will findva paying home for its new tv contract. The contracts are the true measure of a conference value.

Yes because ESPN beat it down everyone's throat the AAC was this great G5 conference when the opposite was true. We all was in CUSA together and when Memphis of all teams wins your conference and is the best team in the conference, you know the AAC is some sh*t. But could continue your arrogance it's hilarious. I especially love it when USF, Temple, UCONN, SMU, Tulane, and Tulsa fans want to talk football and think they are top notch. The only 3 teams in the AAC worth anything is ECU, UCF, AND CINCY. All of the rest of the schools wouldn't be any different if they was in any of the 4 other G5 conference. You still would have crappy Attendence and crappy football programs.

(01-18-2015 05:01 PM)Herd_fever Wrote:  Yes because ESPN beat it down everyone's throat the AAC was this great G5 conference when the opposite was true. We all was in CUSA together and when Memphis of all teams wins your conference and is the best team in the conference, you know the AAC is some sh*t. But could continue your arrogance it's hilarious. I especially love it when USF, Temple, UCONN, SMU, Tulane, and Tulsa fans want to talk football and think they are top notch. The only 3 teams in the AAC worth anything is ECU, UCF, AND CINCY. All of the rest of the schools wouldn't be any different if they was in any of the 4 other G5 conference. You still would have crappy Attendence and crappy football programs.

You sir are 5 months too late

(01-18-2015 04:39 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  I think you would find few sports fans that think Conf USA is better than AAC in football or basketball.It is not even clear if Conf Usa will findva paying home for its new tv contract. The contracts are the true measure of a conference value.

If you think the average sports fan thinks the AAC is better in football than CUSA, you are mistaken. But nor do they think CUSA is better than us. Truth is, to the average college fan, the fan of a P5 conference, the AAC and CUSA are indistinguishable. We are all lumped in to the same G5 compost pile.

If there was one big myth on this board, it was the belief that SEC or B1G fans accorded some special level of respect to the AAC as if we were the acknowledged tweener conference.

But that is not true, they lump us right in with no extra regard. And this year at least, we deserved to be.

As for TV contract value, we do not have much to brag about, do we?

(01-18-2015 05:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 04:39 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  I think you would find few sports fans that think Conf USA is better than AAC in football or basketball.It is not even clear if Conf Usa will findva paying home for its new tv contract. The contracts are the true measure of a conference value.

If you think the average sports fan thinks the AAC is better in football than CUSA, you are mistaken. But nor do they think CUSA is better than us. Truth is, to the average college fan, the fan of a P5 conference, the AAC and CUSA are indistinguishable. We are all lumped in to the same G5 compost pile.

If there was one big myth on this board, it was the belief that SEC or B1G fans accorded some special level of respect to the AAC as if we were the acknowledged tweener conference.

But that is not true, they lump us right in with no extra regard. And this year at least, we deserved to be.

As for TV contract value, we do not have much to brag about, do we?

The AAC has much more recognizable names than CUSA

(01-18-2015 05:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 04:39 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  I think you would find few sports fans that think Conf USA is better than AAC in football or basketball.It is not even clear if Conf Usa will findva paying home for its new tv contract. The contracts are the true measure of a conference value.

If you think the average sports fan thinks the AAC is better in football than CUSA, you are mistaken. But nor do they think CUSA is better than us. Truth is, to the average college fan, the fan of a P5 conference, the AAC and CUSA are indistinguishable. We are all lumped in to the same G5 compost pile.

If there was one big myth on this board, it was the belief that SEC or B1G fans accorded some special level of respect to the AAC as if we were the acknowledged tweener conference.

But that is not true, they lump us right in with no extra regard. And this year at least, we deserved to be.

As for TV contract value, we do not have much to brag about, do we?

I get that you like the attention of being the contrarian,but you speak such nonsense no one respects what you write.If you think that yhe schools in CISA are on the same branding level as the AAC then you are not t s lking nonsense to talk nonsense.

Yes, you have such great brand awareness that you are consistently referred to as Eastern Carolina.

ECU fans live in a different version of reality when it comes to understanding the national view on things.

(01-18-2015 08:01 PM)banker Wrote:  Yes, you have such great brand awareness that you are consistently referred to as Eastern Carolina.

ECU fans live in a different version of reality when it comes to understanding the national view on things.

I know it's hard to comprehend, but

UConn, Cincy, Memphis, ECU, UCF etc, is a lot more known than UTSA, UAB, UTEP, FIU, etc.

(01-18-2015 06:57 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 05:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 04:39 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  I think you would find few sports fans that think Conf USA is better than AAC in football or basketball.It is not even clear if Conf Usa will findva paying home for its new tv contract. The contracts are the true measure of a conference value.

If you think the average sports fan thinks the AAC is better in football than CUSA, you are mistaken. But nor do they think CUSA is better than us. Truth is, to the average college fan, the fan of a P5 conference, the AAC and CUSA are indistinguishable. We are all lumped in to the same G5 compost pile.

If there was one big myth on this board, it was the belief that SEC or B1G fans accorded some special level of respect to the AAC as if we were the acknowledged tweener conference.

But that is not true, they lump us right in with no extra regard. And this year at least, we deserved to be.

As for TV contract value, we do not have much to brag about, do we?

I get that you like the attention of being the contrarian,but you speak such nonsense no one respects what you write.If you think that yhe schools in CISA are on the same branding level as the AAC then you are not t s lking nonsense to talk nonsense.

Objectively, our brand is worth about $1.8 million per school (media value). CUSA is worth about $900,000 per school. Are we worth more? Yes. But on a different level? Nope. It's like the difference between a 3-inch c*ck and a 2-inch c*ck. Yes, the 3-incher is bigger, but both are at the same level, tiny.

Subjectively, do you seriously think anyone at Notre Dame or USC or Florida thinks that Memphis or Tulane football is on a 'different branding level' from Marshall or Rice? If so you aren't thinking straight. That isn't contrarian, it is the way it is.

And on the field, we were 3rd out of 5 this year. I look forward to us getting better in the future, especially USF.

(01-18-2015 08:01 PM)banker Wrote:  Yes, you have such great brand awareness that you are consistently referred to as Eastern Carolina.

ECU fans live in a different version of reality when it comes to understanding the national view on things.

I know that ECU had 13 games broadcast on ESPN this year for a reason. And had tv ratings that supported that. I know that Marshall had 2 games on TV broadcast nationally and they were a 1 loss team. So yes there are dumb people who call us Eastern but those same people get South Carolina and Southern Cal confused.

All the American needs to do is win games because with the TV contract they have there is no doubt over the next 6 years every person that watches college football is going to know where all the AAC's teams are regardless of the money involved. Recruits don't go to a football school because of how much money they get on their tv contract they go there to play on TV and hopes of going pro, and going forward AAC teams will pay full cost of attendance, the other g5's have not committed to that yet. That is the reality of the national view on things.

Really the AAC just doesn't have room to talk to the MWC, CUSA, etc. Look at our overall football this year and you just can't see a lot of difference between us and the other G5's. In hoops, we are clearly way down the pole too. Some of you guys who keep arguing the AAC is the best G5 are nuts. If we are the best, it isn't by much at all.

(01-18-2015 08:01 PM)banker Wrote:  Yes, you have such great brand awareness that you are consistently referred to as Eastern Carolina.

ECU fans live in a different version of reality when it comes to understanding the national view on things.

it will be interesting to see the next TV deal C-USA will have. which TV partners? how long? how much money? answers will be known soon.

(01-18-2015 10:16 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Really the AAC just doesn't have room to talk to the MWC, CUSA, etc. Look at our overall football this year and you just can't see a lot of difference between us and the other G5's. In hoops, we are clearly way down the pole too. Some of you guys who keep arguing the AAC is the best G5 are nuts. If we are the best, it isn't by much at all.

I don't agree with your basketball assessment. Even in a down year, we still have 3-5 teams in the NCAA tourney discussion (on par/more than the PAC and SEC). Sunbelt and MAC are both one bid leagues, CUSA is a one to two bid league, and MWC is a two to three bid league.

(01-18-2015 10:24 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 10:16 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Really the AAC just doesn't have room to talk to the MWC, CUSA, etc. Look at our overall football this year and you just can't see a lot of difference between us and the other G5's. In hoops, we are clearly way down the pole too. Some of you guys who keep arguing the AAC is the best G5 are nuts. If we are the best, it isn't by much at all.

I don't agree with your basketball assessment. Even in a down year, we still have 3-5 teams in the NCAA tourney discussion (on par/more than the PAC and SEC). Sunbelt and MAC are both one bid leagues, CUSA is a one to two bid league, and MWC is a two to three bid league.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men's_...conference

Actually the AAC has plenty room to talk in basketball historically.

The AAC ranks as the 7th best conference, behind the P5 and Big East, in receiving tournament bids. The Mountain West ranks tied for 9th with the West Coast conference while CUSA ranks 11th.

More then half the conference (6 teams) have made it to at least 1 final four. Mountain West sent 3 of 11 teams to the final four (half of the AAC). CUSA has had only 3 of 14 teams make it that far and none since 1977. The Ivy League is more impressive then CUSA in sending 3 of 8 teams to the final four, the last coming in 1979 (U of Penn crushed by Villanova).

The MAC and Sun Belt aren't even in the discussion.

Sorry to ECU fans, but they don't rank the conferences based on tv contracts, they rank them on performance. If you look at recruiting this year there is nominal difference among the MWC, CUSA and the AAC, and ECU wouldn't be ranked near the top of any of the three, so not so sure how your tremendous tv exposure and strong national brand are helping you there (insert standard ECU fan comment "Carden was a 2 star and Hardy was a walk on" here).