Can Huff be the change of pace RB?

(12-24-2014 08:46 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Can Huff be the change of pace RB?

He's going to play a lot. Him and ACRB will be the guys with some KHJ until he gets hurt.

Hopefully he develops whatever he wasn't doing well, physically he looked more than capable, I don't understand how he didn't get more touches, has to be something

(12-24-2014 08:38 AM)JCCNIU31 Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:13 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  We need more speed. Drew needs to work on accuracy. Please get a kicker who can boom the ball both punting and kickoffs. We are close just need a few pieces.

Yes. Without TLL on the field we don't have any explosive player. Brown is straight line fast but lacks the elusiveness of a TLL. Also at the RB position both Boughnon and stingly are good but they don't provide and make you miss ability. Need a change of pace back which Daniels was supposed to be this year and only showed glimpses of his former self a few times.


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It's hard to have speed on the offense when you don't have TLL, then Beebe, then Saffold, and then Daniels (for most of game). Oh well.

(12-24-2014 08:58 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Hopefully he develops whatever he wasn't doing well, physically he looked more than capable, I don't understand how he didn't get more touches, has to be something

Maybe it's because he was behind 3 other guys on the depth chart who turned out to be alright, including 2 seniors? How many other teams would give their 4th string RB more than scant touches?

(12-24-2014 08:59 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-24-2014 08:58 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Hopefully he develops whatever he wasn't doing well, physically he looked more than capable, I don't understand how he didn't get more touches, has to be something

Maybe it's because he was behind 3 other guys on the depth chart who turned out to be alright, including 2 seniors? How many other teams would give their 4th string RB more than scant touches?

I understand the depth point of view. I'm hoping he can be more of a difference maker and produce more long runs/explosive plays, akeem Daniels longest rush was 29 yards on 71 carries, I was hoping for more, longest rush by any RB was 49 yards.

(12-24-2014 08:38 AM)JCCNIU31 Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:13 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  We need more speed. Drew needs to work on accuracy. Please get a kicker who can boom the ball both punting and kickoffs. We are close just need a few pieces.

Yes. Without TLL on the field we don't have any explosive player. Brown is straight line fast but lacks the elusiveness of a TLL. Also at the RB position both Boughnon and stingly are good but they don't provide and make you miss ability. Need a change of pace back which Daniels was supposed to be this year and only showed glimpses of his former self a few times.


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Brown has more talent than you are giving him credit for, he just did not have a QB that could hit him in stride.

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

(12-24-2014 12:20 AM)banker Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:37 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:13 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  We need more speed. Drew needs to work on accuracy. Please get a kicker who can boom the ball both punting and kickoffs. We are close just need a few pieces.

+1.... Marshall was FAST>

That was the biggest difference, along with depth. Go watch a replay of the KO return for the TD. Remi Watson, #8 for. Marshall, makes a block at the Marshall 30 knocking himself off stride, but he and Craig Wilkens, #81 our backup Z WR, both blow past your coverage team and run down our KR Reeves.

It took one kick off, and seeing the speed, for your coach to figure out that he had to do something different. Reeves is maybe one of the 10 fastest guys on our team but Watson and Wilkens definitely aren't. I don't know if pooch kicking the rest of the game was the best idea, but I think Reeves would have broke another one if you would have kicked away the whole game.

The depth thing is why you didn't do in the second half what you were used to doing in conference. We rotate 9 guys on the D line, hardly anyone plays more than 40 snaps. So even if you keep pounding the ball we don't get worn down.

I don't think the gap in the two teams is as big as the score indicated tonight, looked like your QB was probably a little nervous and your coach wasn't willing to let him challenge our man coverage. If you can't throw the ball in the redzone you can't beat us. We came in to the game #23 in redzone defense and had only given up 11 redzone rushing TDs all season.

You are correct in that we could not wear you guys out. We were down to practically no healthy slot receivers. We had to move a back to the slot, and then out other back played more than his normal share of snaps. I also didn't like the way we attacked your up-field type defense. I don;t remember a screen, very little read option, STUPID attempt at a double reverse. We seemed like we were going to go with the same game plan that everyone knows is coming. No attempt to analyze the defense's style and develop a way to turn it's strengths (getting into the backfield quickly) into a weakness. Our offensive line seemed to do ok pushing the Marshall defense straight back, but could not control them in the gaps. So, what do you do in that situation? The game was no the time to ponder that. The tape should have told you that was going to be the case. What was the answer? I saw none, obviously.

Overall, we had too many guys hurt in the skill positions to make much of a game of it yesterday. Tommy Lee alone would have made a big difference.

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

Yeah, it was either that or a penalty. Poor Loos. Which God did he piss off?

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

I'm not talking about the 1st quarter TO. I'm referring to the TO at the end of the 1st half. We needed to call the TO to get the FG unit on the field but it should have been with 3 seconds on the clock instead of 13.

We were forced to kickoff with seconds on the clock when the FG should have been the last play of the game.

(12-26-2014 11:27 AM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

I'm not talking about the 1st quarter TO. I'm referring to the TO at the end of the 1st half. We needed to call the TO to get the FG unit on the field but it should have been with 3 seconds on the clock instead of 13.

We were forced to kickoff with seconds on the clock when the FG should have been the last play of the game.

+1

Was stunned that he didn't wind down to less than 5 seconds. Fans can always nit-pick and second guess..but this one was basic clock management.

(12-26-2014 11:42 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:27 AM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

I'm not talking about the 1st quarter TO. I'm referring to the TO at the end of the 1st half. We needed to call the TO to get the FG unit on the field but it should have been with 3 seconds on the clock instead of 13.

We were forced to kickoff with seconds on the clock when the FG should have been the last play of the game.

+1

Was stunned that he didn't wind down to less than 5 seconds. Fans can always nit-pick and second guess..but this one was basic clock management.

And what if you take a holding penalty on the FG? Or an illegal formation? If there's no time on the clock the half is over. That's such a weird thing to complain about.

(12-26-2014 11:45 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:42 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:27 AM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

I'm not talking about the 1st quarter TO. I'm referring to the TO at the end of the 1st half. We needed to call the TO to get the FG unit on the field but it should have been with 3 seconds on the clock instead of 13.

We were forced to kickoff with seconds on the clock when the FG should have been the last play of the game.

+1

Was stunned that he didn't wind down to less than 5 seconds. Fans can always nit-pick and second guess..but this one was basic clock management.

And what if you take a holding penalty on the FG? Or an illegal formation? If there's no time on the clock the half is over. That's such a weird thing to complain about.

Not a huge deal....Just agreeing with the observation made by NIUHuskie.

FG attempts at the end of halves/games happen often. As you watch the next few weeks of college/NFL football you're telling me that most coaches will manage the clock like Carey did?

I'll be lookin for that.....

(12-26-2014 11:45 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:42 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:27 AM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

I'm not talking about the 1st quarter TO. I'm referring to the TO at the end of the 1st half. We needed to call the TO to get the FG unit on the field but it should have been with 3 seconds on the clock instead of 13.

We were forced to kickoff with seconds on the clock when the FG should have been the last play of the game.

+1

Was stunned that he didn't wind down to less than 5 seconds. Fans can always nit-pick and second guess..but this one was basic clock management.

And what if you take a holding penalty on the FG? Or an illegal formation? If there's no time on the clock the half is over. That's such a weird thing to complain about.

I guess I understand your line of thinking but I don't recall seeing many coaches in that situation calling a TO with so much time on the clock at the end of a half. Coaches will typically only leave enough time for the FG attempt.

Carey had plenty of problems with clock management/TOs all year...starting with the Arkansas game.

(12-23-2014 11:05 PM)HuskieRak Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:04 PM)ChumChum Wrote:  Well, all good things must come to an end at some point. I think our MACC win got our hopes up a little too high this time around and we forgot about our struggles this season. Cato is something else. Most teams would've had a hard time keeping Marshall from scoring.

And yes, something needs to be done about Carey and his play calling as well.

Well he doesn't call the plays so you're out of luck with that

He is the boss over his staff. And if their crap playcalling or his crap playcalling is not yielding results THAT is directly on Carey.
Run it straight up the middle 2 times in a row & that doesn't work...so by all means run it straight up the middle again? Really? What was the result? 3 and out. We are out coached all the time. And +1 on clock management problems noted.
It is an embarrassment.

(12-26-2014 11:45 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:42 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(12-26-2014 11:27 AM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  

(12-24-2014 09:49 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(12-23-2014 11:55 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  Carey's record in the MAC and vs. Big Ten has been great.

The frustrating thing is the clueless stuff like calling a timeout at the end of the first half with 13 seconds left...totally dumb. And it was far from the first time that he had trouble with timeouts.

If i recall correct it was the end of the first quarter and Loos had just puked on the field as they lined up for that play. Im pretty sure they called the TO for Loos.

I'm not talking about the 1st quarter TO. I'm referring to the TO at the end of the 1st half. We needed to call the TO to get the FG unit on the field but it should have been with 3 seconds on the clock instead of 13.

We were forced to kickoff with seconds on the clock when the FG should have been the last play of the game.

+1

Was stunned that he didn't wind down to less than 5 seconds. Fans can always nit-pick and second guess..but this one was basic clock management.

And what if you take a holding penalty on the FG? Or an illegal formation? If there's no time on the clock the half is over. That's such a weird thing to complain about.

Has anyone ever seen an illegal formation on a FG? I cannot recall one. And holding calls on FGs are probably rarer than kick offs returned for TDs. I highly doubt Carey considered the possibility of a penalty on a FG attempt when he rushed to call that timeout too soon. Why do most other teams wait to under 5 seconds to call that time out? Does Carey know something they don't?