Best/Worst in terms of dollars spent vs. wins (football):

Best
1. Cincinnati
2. UCF
3. Kansas State
4. Oregon
5. Mississippi

Worst
1. Colorado
2. Cal
3. Kansas
4. Arkansas
5. Kentucky

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=...ncaaf.html

At least Kentucky is getting a good return for their buck on basketball. But they're spending so much that they still aren't exactly a bargain.

Arkansas is probably going to come off that list pretty soon, pretty awesome that UC and UCF are the top two though.

(12-22-2014 05:38 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Arkansas is probably going to come off that list pretty soon, pretty awesome that UC and UCF are the top two though.

This list can be a mixed blessing. Cincy has had great success hiring coaches in Dantonio, Kelly and Jones, but I guess they do not have the resources to keep a good coach around. Which is why they never have an overpaid coach.

it is also a sign that the Big East and AAC were nothing but stepping stone conferences. That was a good sign that the Big East was not a power conference when their coaches can be stolen away consistently.
Now I know somebody is going to make a joke about the Nebraska-Oregon State-Wisconsin-Pitt chain reaction that can happen between P5 schools, but that is more rare except for Pitt.

Cincy keeps losing its coach to a P5 school, and replaces him with a MAC coach, or Tommy Tupperville, one or the other.

(12-23-2014 05:32 AM)goofus Wrote:  This list can be a mixed blessing. Cincy has had great success hiring coaches in Dantonio, Kelly and Jones, but I guess they do not have the resources to keep a good coach around. Which is why they never have an overpaid coach.

it is also a sign that the Big East and AAC were nothing but stepping stone conferences. That was a good sign that the Big East was not a power conference when their coaches can be stolen away consistently.
Now I know somebody is going to make a joke about the Nebraska-Oregon State-Wisconsin-Pitt chain reaction that can happen between P5 schools, but that is more rare except for Pitt.

Cincy keeps losing its coach to a P5 school, and replaces him with a MAC coach, or Tommy Tupperville, one or the other.

Last time I checked, Notre Dame (Kelly) Tennessee (Jones) and Michigan State (Dantonio) were considered destination coaching opportunities. Oh, but wait, Saban left Michigan State for the SEC (LSU). Bielema left the Badgers for the SEC (Arkansas). The B10 must be a stepping stone for the SEC?

Tuberville's compensation at Cincy is top 40; well above many P5 coaches. If he chooses to leave someday, so be it. Forbes is pointing out that Cincinnati football has earned the nation's best return on investment. Accept the facts; no negative spin required.

Imagine what Cincinnati will do with P5 resources?

Ok fair point.

And Lane Kiffen left Tenn for USC, Franklin left Vandy for PSU, and Urban Meyer eventually moved from Florida to Ohio State.

So the SEC and all conferences lose their share of coaches to other schools.

Of course locking in a good coach is no guaruntee of continued success.

Bobby Bowden became very mediocre in last seasons. Joe Paterno is now remembered as a fraud who let his assistants do all the coaching.

Kirk Ferentz and Iowa has been very average ever since he got one of those inflated contracts where he can not get fired. I am surprised Iowa was not on bottom 5 list.

The list goes on.

(12-23-2014 09:10 AM)goofus Wrote:  Ok fair point.

And Lane Kiffen left Tenn for USC, Franklin left Vandy for PSU, and Urban Meyer eventually moved from Florida to Ohio State.

So the SEC and all conferences lose their share of coaches to other schools.

Of course locking in a good coach is no guaruntee of continued success.

Bobby Bowden became very mediocre in last seasons. Joe Paterno is now remembered as a fraud who let his assistants do all the coaching.

Kirk Ferentz and Iowa has been very average ever since he got one of those inflated contracts where he can not get fired. I am surprised Iowa was not on bottom 5 list.

The list goes on.

Yes, good analysis. To me, coaches should be able to move for better opportunities but the worst case scenario is walking before the bowl game. Generally speaking, I'm not one who wants more regulation in any realm but it's a real downer for the players and fans following a successful season. But I suppose there's no solution for that.

There aren't many destination gigs: Alabama, USC, ND, OSU, Michigan, Texas, maybe Oklahoma? These schools could pick off a coach from anywhere else.

Basketball end of the line gigs would be UNC, Duke, Kentucky. I don't think anyone else is safe from poaching by these three. (I want to say Kansas but Roy Williams doesn't think so).

(12-23-2014 05:32 AM)goofus Wrote:  This list can be a mixed blessing. Cincy has had great success hiring coaches in Dantonio, Kelly and Jones, but I guess they do not have the resources to keep a good coach around. Which is why they never have an overpaid coach.

it is also a sign that the Big East and AAC were nothing but stepping stone conferences. That was a good sign that the Big East was not a power conference when their coaches can be stolen away consistently.
Now I know somebody is going to make a joke about the Nebraska-Oregon State-Wisconsin-Pitt chain reaction that can happen between P5 schools, but that is more rare except for Pitt.

Cincy keeps losing its coach to a P5 school, and replaces him with a MAC coach, or Tommy Tupperville, one or the other.

true...but we keep winning. You guys pay your coach a lot and for what? Every heard of the term "time to cut bait"?

Your coach is 115-84 (.578) and gets 3.6 mil/yr......I'd say that's a pretty lousy return. You can brag that you are "keeping him" but really, who wants him? Not me.