(12-22-2014 10:57 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Guess we should have burned his red-shirt this year.....

I honestly don't think that was a factor in this instance. With Senior and Hallmon, I can see it because we had so many true freshman play at both WR and CB this year, but unless you're an absolute stud, it's pretty much common knowledge at any FBS program that QBs are gonna red-shirt their first year.

I think it may have been in line with what 1981 said, in that he'd be stuck behind Hare, and possibly Maddie, on the depth chart for the next 2 seasons.

Senior and Hallmon were both idiots. They won't be missed.

(12-22-2014 10:32 AM)7 Wrote:  Either McIntosh needs to be moved back to QB or they need to try to recruit a JUCO QB. I don't think you can go into next year with Hare, Maddie, and then Ryan Graham as the third stringer in this offense. And they need to recruit a lot of QBs next year.

Hasn't McIntosh been our 3rd sting QB? He has been warming up as a QB for all the games that I have seen since the announcement.

Can we even expect him to stay at NIU next year?

(12-22-2014 10:29 AM)NIU8484 Wrote:  Damn...just creeped twitter, looks like he's gone...

12/13/14 - One of his tweets he's congratulated on his new journey at Kansas State, but corrects the tweeter saying he is "not sure where he is going just yet"

HE GONE!

I could see Kansas giving him a look, especially now that Kane is there.

(12-22-2014 11:07 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 10:29 AM)NIU8484 Wrote:  Damn...just creeped twitter, looks like he's gone...

12/13/14 - One of his tweets he's congratulated on his new journey at Kansas State, but corrects the tweeter saying he is "not sure where he is going just yet"

HE GONE!

I could see Kansas giving him a look, especially now that Kane is there.

That would make sense, but other than that why would any BCS team give him a look? He had 2 FBS offers coming out of high school (NIU and Tulsa). I don't think he's going to be some heavily sought after transfer now.

If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

(12-22-2014 11:06 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 10:32 AM)7 Wrote:  Either McIntosh needs to be moved back to QB or they need to try to recruit a JUCO QB. I don't think you can go into next year with Hare, Maddie, and then Ryan Graham as the third stringer in this offense. And they need to recruit a lot of QBs next year.

Hasn't McIntosh been our 3rd sting QB? He has been warming up as a QB for all the games that I have seen since the announcement.

Can we even expect him to stay at NIU next year?

He probably is the 3rd stringer right now, but as Carey said, if he wants to see time on the field, his best bet is as a reserve DB/special teamer. It's really similar to the situation with Grady in 2011 if you really think about it because Grady was all-but accepted as the 3rd QB that year behind Harnish & Lynch, even though he was listed and primarily played as a WR.

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

Ouch. Why the insult to Hare?

(12-22-2014 11:07 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 10:29 AM)NIU8484 Wrote:  Damn...just creeped twitter, looks like he's gone...

12/13/14 - One of his tweets he's congratulated on his new journey at Kansas State, but corrects the tweeter saying he is "not sure where he is going just yet"

HE GONE!

I could see Kansas giving him a look, especially now that Kane is there.

...and especially now that Charlie "the big tuna" Weis ISN'T there.

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:06 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 10:32 AM)7 Wrote:  Either McIntosh needs to be moved back to QB or they need to try to recruit a JUCO QB. I don't think you can go into next year with Hare, Maddie, and then Ryan Graham as the third stringer in this offense. And they need to recruit a lot of QBs next year.

Hasn't McIntosh been our 3rd sting QB? He has been warming up as a QB for all the games that I have seen since the announcement.

Can we even expect him to stay at NIU next year?

He probably is the 3rd stringer right now, but as Carey said, if he wants to see time on the field, his best bet is as a reserve DB/special teamer. It's really similar to the situation with Grady in 2011 if you really think about it because Grady was all-but accepted as the 3rd QB that year behind Harnish & Lynch, even though he was listed and primarily played as a WR.

He won't be the third stringer next year. If he spends all spring/fall repping at DB, unless all 3 scholarship QBs go down, he won't be spending any time at QB.

Lets hope some FCS team doesn't come calling for Maddie at this point.

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

Ouch. Why the insult to Hare?

Not an insult, just saying Drew Hare isn't a Harnish or Lynch. He's above average.

Sure, Hare has earned the right to be a starter come next year, but if he starts sucking it up in the summer or early in the season, we have a big problem.

Seems like a HUGE opportunity for an incoming FR to RS in 2015, get some team reps in 2016 and then be THE guy in 2017, 2018 and 2019.

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

Hare isn't some superstar.. he was average, which was fine with the way the rest of the team played, but he was by no means great. If Root was anything special he'd have had no problem taking the job from him.

(12-22-2014 11:12 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:06 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 10:32 AM)7 Wrote:  Either McIntosh needs to be moved back to QB or they need to try to recruit a JUCO QB. I don't think you can go into next year with Hare, Maddie, and then Ryan Graham as the third stringer in this offense. And they need to recruit a lot of QBs next year.

Hasn't McIntosh been our 3rd sting QB? He has been warming up as a QB for all the games that I have seen since the announcement.

Can we even expect him to stay at NIU next year?

He probably is the 3rd stringer right now, but as Carey said, if he wants to see time on the field, his best bet is as a reserve DB/special teamer. It's really similar to the situation with Grady in 2011 if you really think about it because Grady was all-but accepted as the 3rd QB that year behind Harnish & Lynch, even though he was listed and primarily played as a WR.

He won't be the third stringer next year. If he spends all spring/fall repping at DB, unless all 3 scholarship QBs going down, he won't be spending any time at QB.

Lets hope some FCS team doesn't come calling for Maddie at this point.

I know he won't be the 3rd stringer next year, I was talking about this year. Graham will be the 3rd stringer next year if all goes as planned, but if a situation similar to what happened at Toledo this year, or Maryland a few years back, happens and we lose all 3 of Hare, Maddie, & Graham, Mac could be one of the guys they look to.

I don't think there's much chance Maddie would leave now. He's firmly entrenched as the backup for next year as far as I'm concerned, unless Graham dazzles in the Spring. The offense is ideal for his skill-set, he's got 3 high school buddies on the roster, and he's only about 30 minutes from home.

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Huskies2006 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

Hare isn't some superstar.. he was average, which was fine with the way the rest of the team played, but he was by no means great. If Root was anything special he'd have had no problem taking the job from him.

He had 0 chance. None. You don't open up your QB competition after a sophomore throws 2 picks the entire season and leads you to an 11-2 record and a conference championship. They're going to give Hare as many reps with the 1s as possible all offseason and try to develop him, as they should.

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Huskies2006 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

Hare isn't some superstar.. he was average, which was fine with the way the rest of the team played, but he was by no means great. If Root was anything special he'd have had no problem taking the job from him.

Which means he probably wasn't anything special at this point. The only way he'd unseat Hare as the starter next year is if he was absolutely amazing, and that probably wasn't the case.

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)7 Wrote:  He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

The transformation is complete. You have become a True Hare Believer!

(12-22-2014 11:17 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Huskies2006 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

Hare isn't some superstar.. he was average, which was fine with the way the rest of the team played, but he was by no means great. If Root was anything special he'd have had no problem taking the job from him.

Which means he probably wasn't anything special at this point. The only way he'd unseat Hare as the starter next year is if he was absolutely amazing, and that probably wasn't the case.

What? You by no means have to be amazing to better than Drew Hare was this year. This is not Chandler Harnish or Jordan Lynch we're talking about here.

(12-22-2014 11:23 AM)Huskies2006 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:17 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Huskies2006 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:11 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  If you don't think you can beat out Drew Hare for a starting position, you must not have much motivation to play at all.

He had no chance of starting next year. Hare was/is going to be the guy, as he should be.

Hare isn't some superstar.. he was average, which was fine with the way the rest of the team played, but he was by no means great. If Root was anything special he'd have had no problem taking the job from him.

Which means he probably wasn't anything special at this point. The only way he'd unseat Hare as the starter next year is if he was absolutely amazing, and that probably wasn't the case.

What? You by no means have to be amazing to better than Drew Hare was this year. This is not Chandler Harnish or Jordan Lynch we're talking about here.

How do you rationalize a change to that locker room and your fanbase that your going to make a switch at QB after Hare leads you to 11-2, a MACC (in which he played his ass off), and is still young with room to grow...not to mention, in which game did Hare lose it for us? He has a 136 QBR on the season!