If you are a Pastner fan and think he is the Coach of the Future please just stop reading this post b/c I am not attempting to change your feelings. I honor and support those who really believe in their cause and for being loyal to the end.

The only reasons I post my honest feelings about basketball program without holding back are because:

I am a BBA graduate from the University of Memphis (one year removed from graduating from Memphis State! I really wanted my diploma to read Memphis State at the time. Today I appreciate and understand the name change 20+ yrs ago.

I'm not just a basketball fan like so many others. I give my entire self to the U and I am a bigger Tiger football fan than basketball.

I've been on so many Tiger football road games that I couldn't even count. The UofL big fight where we got hosed at the end of the game in the dumpy baseball stadium....

I remember sitting in the cubes out in the hall of Fogleman waiting for my next class to start and reading the school paper about JOE LEE DUNN and how we became the #3 best defense in the country...

This is my era of being a college student so some may be able to relate to this era.

I began attending football and basketball games with my parents in 1973 when I was 4.

trust me this isn't to brag about myself. the last thing I care about is having people I don't know think good things about me. It's just my story and the truth and my passion for the University and the athletic program.

I have started businesses from the ground up for the last 12 years after working 8 yrs as an employee at a very successful small Memphis based start up.

I owe that all to the U and the business school. We had some of the best marketing and entrepreneur classes for that time than anyone could ask for. I don't care what school says they were better. I would put the business professors from 1986-1994 at Memphis at the very top nationally. After '94 it was probably just as good or better but I was out working then.

Anytime someone asks me about my business success I ALWAYS give the credit to the Memphis business school. I always joke with my friends who went to Wake, Vandy, blah blah that all I had was my City College education and strong work ethic. Some can quite understand how a Memphis State grad can do so well without all the "formal high end education".

Not that I needed to write a resume to make a post on MT.org but if someone wants to challenge my level of commitment/support to the U both academically and athletics I would love to compare notes.

it is my personal opinion as a Tiger Alum and financial contributor that Josh Pastner is the wrong person to lead the basketball program into the future.

I will Pastner credit that he walked into a tough situation and he did a stellar job early on holding things together.

IMO the biggest problem JP has is trusting others to help him. He wants to micromanage everything and he thinks he knows it all.

He doesn't have enough experience to Know it All.

I believe because he played and was an asst at Arizona/Lute that he felt his pedigree was too good to listen to anyone about how things work at Memphis.

If you want a specific then I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Coach Glen Cyprien DID NOT want to leave Memphis at the end of the 2010 season (4 yrs ago)

Josh should have taken the steps to get Cyp the raise he deserved. Even if the school couldn't come up with the extra money JP should have been smart enough to give up a piece of his new contract for Cyp to stay with him.

There are SO many high level coaches in basketball and football that pay their most trusted assistants extra on the side to stay with them. Saban is one and I know this for a fact.

JP was too stubborn and thought he was THE MAN all by himself.

Bad Move...

Smart people know to surround themselves with smart people.

Every successful business owner and CEO will say that their strength is figuring out what their personal weakness is and hiring the right people to help offset that weakness.

Coach Cyp was one of the most experienced asst coaches in the country. Resume begins in 1987 as an asst and lead asst at the latter schools....Lamar, Western KY, UNLV, Oklahoma State, New Mexico State, Arkansas, Kentucky, Memphis

That's a lot of experience to let walk out the door because of pride.

EVERY player on our team adored Coach Cyp and JP was threatened by that.

If Cyp was still a Tiger he would have made our program much better and more organized. JP would have gotten a better offer at another school and then Cyp would have taken over as HC at Memphis.

IMO Josh letting Cyp and Willis Wilson walk was the beginning of the end.

Now it's time to move on and thank JP for all the good he did achieve in his time taking over from Cal. It wasn't easy and he deserves credit for keeping us semi relevant.

It's time to go hire the right guy to get us back in the Top 20 on a consistent basis. Our program is above where we are now and where we are headed.

sorry for the long post and I am vowing not to write another post about how I feel again. This was my release and if you made this far I appreciate you hearing me out. LOL

I LOVE THE UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS

FAIL.

Pastner4prez rest Assured Buyout will not be a problem....People are aware of where we are now at, and This season is being watched a lot more closely....The World Is Ours Memphis....

Thanks for the heads up. I stopped reading.

I thought a win would give us immunity today... I guess not.

The season isn't over yet. Partner could or could not get fired at the end of the year. If he does he does. Nothing will happen until then. If people would support the team as much as they bash the coach we would have standing room only every time they played.

(12-20-2014 11:15 PM)mairving Wrote:  I thought a win would give us immunity today... I guess not.

The season isn't over yet. Partner could or could not get fired at the end of the year. If he does he does. Nothing will happen until then. If people would support the team as much as they bash the coach we would have standing room only every time they played.

I too am shocked at how quickly attendance has dropped this year. Been dropping slowly but this is not like past Tiger rebuilding seasons. Maybe it's because of perception that Josh will never turn it around.

(12-20-2014 11:08 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  FAIL.

told you not to read....at least I was up front about it

(12-20-2014 11:15 PM)mairving Wrote:  I thought a win would give us immunity today... I guess not.

The season isn't over yet. Partner could or could not get fired at the end of the year. If he does he does. Nothing will happen until then. If people would support the team as much as they bash the coach we would have standing room only every time they played.

Support the team....man I would love to compare notes on number of games attended over the years.

I said not to read from the very beginning. This post isn't about your side. I respect your side. You have the right to chose how you feel.

(12-20-2014 11:21 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 11:15 PM)mairving Wrote:  I thought a win would give us immunity today... I guess not.

The season isn't over yet. Partner could or could not get fired at the end of the year. If he does he does. Nothing will happen until then. If people would support the team as much as they bash the coach we would have standing room only every time they played.

I too am shocked at how quickly attendance has dropped this year. Been dropping slowly but this is not like past Tiger rebuilding seasons. Maybe it's because of perception that Josh will never turn it around.

you are right on. Memphis fans know basketball.

We saw the writing on the wall with Larry. While the circumstance sucked it was clear that the program was lost.

The same people that saw that happen are the same that see what's happening now and where we are headed if we do not make a program change.

I'm not a JP fan. Neither am I saying "nothing is wrong." I'm not happy about how we've looked and played. We don't look prepared, IMO.

The incessant whining/complaining/criticism about Pastner makes me sick.
BUT
So do the posts that defend him at all costs.

Something isn't right. Anyone who doesn't see that is choosing to turn a blind eye. Can Josh fix it? I don't know...but right now, he's our coach and we have a group of guys suiting up and playing...proudly wearing the school name and representing as best they can.
Get out there and support them.
Or don't.
But shut up about firing him unless you're going to write the check for the buy-out.

you assume because Cyp left, he left because it is Josh's fault for not giving him a raise.
Bad premise.
Kennedy had just been hired, and he wanted Cyp on his staff. Billy Kennedy and Cyprien were longyime friends. That is hard to say no to.
Willis left for a head coaching job, so its not like Josh ran them off.

Who the heck is Billy Kennedy?...It was Billy Clyde G and Josh has lost asstistants year after year....Josh isn't the right fit for us, and a change needs to take place sooner rather than later after this season...University of Memphis, Delta's Team....The World Is Ours Memphis...

what I WILL concede is that Josh should have hired some experienced (prferably former head coach or two ) as assts to replace them

(12-20-2014 11:46 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Who the heck is Billy Kennedy?...It was Billy Clyde G and Josh has lost asstistants year after year....Josh isn't the right fit for us, and a change needs to take place sooner rather than later after this season...University of Memphis, Delta's Team....The World Is Ours Memphis...

Billy Kennedy is the man who hired Cyprien away from Memphis dude.

Kennedy is the head coach at Texas A&M...they have the money to get who they want

Cyp was the#2 asst behind Willis Wilson.
At A&M he is the lead asst, and asst head coach.

(12-20-2014 11:52 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Kennedy is the head coach at Texas A&M...they have the money to get who they want

Cyp was the#2 asst behind Willis Wilson.
At A&M he is the lead asst, and asst head coach.

A&M will not out spend Memphis for a basketball coach.

(12-20-2014 11:33 PM)jaaaasonl Wrote:  I'm not a JP fan. Neither am I saying "nothing is wrong." I'm not happy about how we've looked and played. We don't look prepared, IMO.

The incessant whining/complaining/criticism about Pastner makes me sick.
BUT
So do the posts that defend him at all costs.

Something isn't right. Anyone who doesn't see that is choosing to turn a blind eye. Can Josh fix it? I don't know...but right now, he's our coach and we have a group of guys suiting up and playing...proudly wearing the school name and representing as best they can.
Get out there and support them.
Or don't.
But shut up about firing him unless you're going to write the check for the buy-out.

IMO I think this is very inappropriate! This is a fan forum and message board where we should respectfully to head to one's opinions...There's no rule to either agree or disagree...but telling someone they need to shut up is offensive...you don't have anymore right to that verbiage as anyone does with the expression of an opinion of the coaches tenure! The nerve of some people is asinine...The writer expressed the commitment level through travel;tuition;funding;emotion;spirit and GOD knows what other commitments that are unmentioned, therefore technically does wright the check for a buyout....Hell at least a %; and without having adequate knowledge of the extent of that commitment....you are completely & totally out of line if you feel the audacity to warrant telling someone that they should consider your growl or bark or grunt to SHUT UP! And I use those terms as clearly your have a lack of ethics and inhuman shut up

Shut up

(12-21-2014 01:24 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  Shut up

Positive Paul's sure can be jerks huh.

(12-20-2014 11:15 PM)mairving Wrote:  I thought a win would give us immunity today... I guess not.

The season isn't over yet. Partner could or could not get fired at the end of the year. If he does he does. Nothing will happen until then. If people would support the team as much as they bash the coach we would have standing room only every time they played.