I know one of our resident liberals likes to parade about counting the number of "I"s in presidential speeches as a way to indicate that he as self-absorbed as it would otherwise seem. But, his statement "I wish (Sony) had talked to me first", is laughably self-absorbed and begs the question "who the **** does he think he is"?

Nevertheless, I thought the Sony CEO (Lynton) handled the situation with the kind of grace that you'd hope for in an effective leader. He may well have reacted with "well, I wish the President had taken his head out of his ass before he said something like that in a press conference", but he delicately explained why the President was speaking from ignorance, really had no place in the decision making, and just doesn't understand how business works. Overall, it's a pretty interesting interview.

CEO Says Sony Pictures 'Did Not Capitulate,' Is Exploring Options : The Two-Way : NPR

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/...=371966188 Wrote:BLOCK: And, first, your reaction when you heard President Obama say that your company, Sony, made a mistake in canceling the release of this movie.

LYNTON: Well, at first I was surprised by the remark. But, you know, I think actually the president and I are coming from the same place. We're obviously both strong proponents of the First Amendment. I think that the issue here is that there's been a general misunderstanding with the press and the public about how these events unfolded, and the fact that we have been absolutely diligent about making certain that this movie gets out into movie theaters. And it was only when the movie theaters themselves that said that they couldn't take the movie, that we had to say that we couldn't release it on the 25 of December.

BLOCK: I want to get back to that in a moment. But let me ask you also about what the president said. He said he wishes you had spoken to him first before you decided to cancel the release. Why didn't you?

LYNTON: It really, frankly, didn't come to mind. I had been in touch with advisers inside the White House days previous, not about the actual release pattern of the picture, but about looking for increased help in terms of security, which they were very helpful with. And, you know, when these things happen, they happen very, very quickly and so you're making your decision in the moment.

BLOCK: Well, this has been brewing for several weeks though now, right?

LYNTON: Well, no. Actually the decision on the part of the theater owners came all over the course of, sort of, six or eight hours.

BLOCK: The threat from what is now believed to be North Korea was deemed not to be credible by the Department of Homeland Security. So the question really is why capitulate? Aren't you, effectively, giving in to blackmail?

LYNTON: We did not capitulate. We don't own movie theaters, and we require movie theater owners to be there for us to distribute our film. We very much wanted to keep the picture and release. When the movie theaters decided that they could not put our movie in their theaters, we had no choice at that point but to not have the movie come out on the 25 of December. This was not our decision.

Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceded

Nah, Fit you're mistaken - it's the loser that concedes!

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Ah, you fixed it. Very different meanings. No?

I imagine you are correct that anyone that makes it to president has a high opinion of themselves - some are better at masking it, Obama is not.

(12-21-2014 10:28 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Ah, you fixed it. Very different meanings. No?

I imagine you are correct that anyone that makes it to president has a high opinion of themselves - some are better at masking it, Obama is not.

disclaimer: not picking on you but the premise....

narcissism is hardly a new concept....

and people vote for narcissism....

and post on a bbs like their opinion matters....

it's just too easy.....

(12-21-2014 10:28 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Ah, you fixed it. Very different meanings. No?

I imagine you are correct that anyone that makes it to president has a high opinion of themselves - some are better at masking it, Obama is not.

Swiping on my cell sometimes puts words in my mouth. Lol

(12-21-2014 10:34 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 10:28 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Ah, you fixed it. Very different meanings. No?

I imagine you are correct that anyone that makes it to president has a high opinion of themselves - some are better at masking it, Obama is not.

disclaimer: not picking on you but the premise....

narcissism is hardly a new concept....

and people vote for narcissism....

and post on a bbs like their opinion matters....

it's just too easy.....

Stink - everyone believes their opinion matters, otherwise, why ever state one. I think narcissism is inherent - it's just a matter of degree.

(12-21-2014 11:44 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 10:34 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 10:28 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Ah, you fixed it. Very different meanings. No?

I imagine you are correct that anyone that makes it to president has a high opinion of themselves - some are better at masking it, Obama is not.

disclaimer: not picking on you but the premise....

narcissism is hardly a new concept....

and people vote for narcissism....

and post on a bbs like their opinion matters....

it's just too easy.....

Stink - everyone believes their opinion matters, otherwise, why ever state one. I think narcissism is inherent - it's just a matter of degree.

belief doesn't equal merit

true regarding "matter...."

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Big difference between conceit and confidence.

(12-21-2014 12:49 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

Big difference between conceit and confidence.

just for shites and gigs....

please debate between the literal and the figurative concepts of both....i'll play with ya....

hint: they end in unity as the same if you don't want to play....

My point is that this President isn't any different than any other president. Except to some.

I might have made a better word choice to emphasize how remarkably self-important he thinks he is.

I have said for a long time that I never have a problem with anyone's arrogance... I've worked with or have been around a lot of arrogant folks. It's when they don't have the substance to back up their arrogance that I really have a problem with someone and that's what irritates me about this president - he's arrogant, but completely without substance.

(12-22-2014 03:10 PM)I45owl Wrote:  I might have made a better word choice to emphasize how remarkably self-important he thinks he is.

I have said for a long time that I never have a problem with anyone's arrogance... I've worked with or have been around a lot of arrogant folks. It's when they don't have the substance to back up their arrogance that I really have a problem with someone and that's what irritates me about this president - his naive perception whilst seeking a solution is where he falls flat on his face

IMO, fify

(12-21-2014 08:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Every POTUS that ever lived is conceited

....and that matters...why? When are we going to have better leadership? Why is it we continue to only get this type of person as POTUS? Could it be that real quality persons would not touch this job with a 20 foot pole?

Because our election system is flawed

NEWSFLASH: Anyone who runs for president has a big ego.

(12-22-2014 06:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Because our election system is flawed

Obviously.

Does anybody really think that over the last 15 years, the most competent people to lead the free world have been George W. Bush, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, John McCain, and/or Mitt Romney? What have ANY of them ever done to indicate that to be the case?

So how do we get it unflawed?

John Kerry. Yes.

(12-22-2014 07:50 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  John Kerry. Yes.

Anybody who could pick Johnny the Ambulance Chaser as his running mate, no.

(12-22-2014 07:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 07:50 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  John Kerry. Yes.

Anybody who could pick Johnny the Ambulance Chaser as his running mate, no.

What is the reasoning for picking a VP candidate?