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Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
Can we go back to rooting for all of the AAC teams against their P5 opponents?
Who is up first?
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
It isn't dead till the decision is made in March or May
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:07 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: It isn't dead till the decision is made in March or May
Denial, and all that...5 stages of grief, we understand.
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
Why do you think it is over?
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
Isn't there a realignment board for all of these threads?
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote: Isn't there a realignment board for all of these threads?
I would think so or maybe the mod should make an mega realignment thread.
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
its dead until the first part of 2015
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
The AAC should move its focus on how it can proactively improve TV ratings and exposure for the conference.
IMO, this means westward expansion and with the other military schools. Why? Because markets are important, but matchups that drive TV ratings are much more important. Notre Dame is a tremendous asset not because of northern Indiana and Chicago, but because Notre Dame drives TV ratings. The Army-Navy game drives great ratings. The 2014 matchup was 6-5 versus 4-7. But, they still deliver great ratings.
So, an expansion that included Army and Air Force - perfect branding for the American - along with the best of the legitimate candidates - Boise St., BYU, and Colorado St. would make a ton of sense. Boise St.-BYU, Air Force-BYU, Boise St.-Air Force, BYU-Colorado St., Boise St.-Colorado St. are all good matchups - not to mention the military games, BYU-ECU, Boise St.-UCF, Colorado St.-Houston. All good matchups that would help drive ratings (BYU-UConn and Boise St.-UConn were among some of the AAC's highest TV ratings in 2014).
The other thing that westward expansion gives the AAC is the late night games on ESPN. The AAC would compete head to head with the PAC 12. Some of BYU's and Boise St.'s better 2014 TV ratings were in the later games on Thursday and Saturday.
You could throw in San Diego St. or UNLV to round out the western arm with a good market, good potential, a good bowl game, and great basketball.
(This post was last modified: 12-19-2014 02:40 PM by YNot.)
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote: The AAC should move its focus on how it can proactively improve TV ratings and exposure for the conference.
IMO, this means westward expansion and with the other military schools. Why? Because markets are important, but matchups that drive TV ratings are much more important. Notre Dame is a tremendous asset not because of northern Indiana and Chicago, but because Notre Dame drives TV ratings. The Army-Navy game drives great ratings. The 2014 matchup was 6-5 versus 4-7. But, they still deliver great ratings.
So, an expansion that included Army and Air Force - perfect branding for the American - along with the best of the legitimate candidates - Boise St., BYU, and Colorado St. would make a ton of sense. Boise St.-BYU, Air Force-BYU, Boise St.-Air Force, BYU-Colorado St., Boise St.-Colorado St. are all good matchups - not to mention the military games, BYU-ECU, Boise St.-UCF, Colorado St.-Houston. All good matchups that would help drive ratings (BYU-UConn and Boise St.-UConn were among some of the AAC's highest TV ratings in 2014).
The other thing that westward expansion gives the AAC is the late night games on ESPN. The AAC would compete head to head with the PAC 12. Some of BYU's and Boise St.'s better 2014 TV ratings were in the later games on Thursday and Saturday.
You could throw in San Diego St. or UNLV to round out the western arm with a good market, good potential, a good bowl game, and great basketball.
So something like...
East:
Army
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Memphis
Navy
Temple
UCF
USF
West:
Air Force
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Houston
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
I guess I could maybe buy that...
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:53 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote: The AAC should move its focus on how it can proactively improve TV ratings and exposure for the conference.
IMO, this means westward expansion and with the other military schools. Why? Because markets are important, but matchups that drive TV ratings are much more important. Notre Dame is a tremendous asset not because of northern Indiana and Chicago, but because Notre Dame drives TV ratings. The Army-Navy game drives great ratings. The 2014 matchup was 6-5 versus 4-7. But, they still deliver great ratings.
So, an expansion that included Army and Air Force - perfect branding for the American - along with the best of the legitimate candidates - Boise St., BYU, and Colorado St. would make a ton of sense. Boise St.-BYU, Air Force-BYU, Boise St.-Air Force, BYU-Colorado St., Boise St.-Colorado St. are all good matchups - not to mention the military games, BYU-ECU, Boise St.-UCF, Colorado St.-Houston. All good matchups that would help drive ratings (BYU-UConn and Boise St.-UConn were among some of the AAC's highest TV ratings in 2014).
The other thing that westward expansion gives the AAC is the late night games on ESPN. The AAC would compete head to head with the PAC 12. Some of BYU's and Boise St.'s better 2014 TV ratings were in the later games on Thursday and Saturday.
You could throw in San Diego St. or UNLV to round out the western arm with a good market, good potential, a good bowl game, and great basketball.
So something like...
East:
Army
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Memphis
Navy
Temple
UCF
USF
West:
Air Force
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Houston
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
I guess I could maybe buy that...
Let's talk about MWC merger.
The model above has too many mouths to feed. The AAC really needs to drop Tulsa & Tulane then find 6 western schools to merge with. I suggest Boise, BYU, San Diego st, Fresno St, AF and Colorado st.
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:13 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Why do you think it is over?
Why do you think its not over?
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
I don't think the Bob was bluffing on the call today. I think expansion is completely off the table for the big 12. Reading between the lines is that Fox isn't going to offer a bigger contract to add 2 additional teams and their contract has a lot more years. He is on crack if he thinks their deal will keep pace with the sec, big 10, and acc. Just too many non elite members in the big 12 outside of Texas and Oklahoma.
Interesting slip though when he mentioned WVU being east and talking about their interest if they wanted a team "out west". Sounds like byu is out if they want to go east for wvu.
(This post was last modified: 12-19-2014 03:07 PM by KNIGHTTIME.)
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
Big 12 expansion talk isn't over until the dude on the radio show in Tennessee says its over.
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Re: RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:59 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:53 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote: The AAC should move its focus on how it can proactively improve TV ratings and exposure for the conference.
IMO, this means westward expansion and with the other military schools. Why? Because markets are important, but matchups that drive TV ratings are much more important. Notre Dame is a tremendous asset not because of northern Indiana and Chicago, but because Notre Dame drives TV ratings. The Army-Navy game drives great ratings. The 2014 matchup was 6-5 versus 4-7. But, they still deliver great ratings.
So, an expansion that included Army and Air Force - perfect branding for the American - along with the best of the legitimate candidates - Boise St., BYU, and Colorado St. would make a ton of sense. Boise St.-BYU, Air Force-BYU, Boise St.-Air Force, BYU-Colorado St., Boise St.-Colorado St. are all good matchups - not to mention the military games, BYU-ECU, Boise St.-UCF, Colorado St.-Houston. All good matchups that would help drive ratings (BYU-UConn and Boise St.-UConn were among some of the AAC's highest TV ratings in 2014).
The other thing that westward expansion gives the AAC is the late night games on ESPN. The AAC would compete head to head with the PAC 12. Some of BYU's and Boise St.'s better 2014 TV ratings were in the later games on Thursday and Saturday.
You could throw in San Diego St. or UNLV to round out the western arm with a good market, good potential, a good bowl game, and great basketball.
So something like...
East:
Army
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Memphis
Navy
Temple
UCF
USF
West:
Air Force
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Houston
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
I guess I could maybe buy that...
Let's talk about MWC merger.
The model above has too many mouths to feed. The AAC really needs to drop Tulsa & Tulane then find 6 western schools to merge with. I suggest Boise, BYU, San Diego st, Fresno St, AF and Colorado st.
Tulsa and Tulane have significantly more value than just on the field product. I would not support kicking anyone out at all. Losing Tulsa and Tulane would make CUSA stronger, when they rejoined.
I'll be ecstatic and even more supportive if they can find ways to get more butts in seats, because that is my only gripe with them.
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 03:11 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: Big 12 expansion talk isn't over until the dude on the radio show in Tennessee says its over.
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
It will be over on TUESDAY!
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 02:59 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:53 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote: The AAC should move its focus on how it can proactively improve TV ratings and exposure for the conference.
IMO, this means westward expansion and with the other military schools. Why? Because markets are important, but matchups that drive TV ratings are much more important. Notre Dame is a tremendous asset not because of northern Indiana and Chicago, but because Notre Dame drives TV ratings. The Army-Navy game drives great ratings. The 2014 matchup was 6-5 versus 4-7. But, they still deliver great ratings.
So, an expansion that included Army and Air Force - perfect branding for the American - along with the best of the legitimate candidates - Boise St., BYU, and Colorado St. would make a ton of sense. Boise St.-BYU, Air Force-BYU, Boise St.-Air Force, BYU-Colorado St., Boise St.-Colorado St. are all good matchups - not to mention the military games, BYU-ECU, Boise St.-UCF, Colorado St.-Houston. All good matchups that would help drive ratings (BYU-UConn and Boise St.-UConn were among some of the AAC's highest TV ratings in 2014).
The other thing that westward expansion gives the AAC is the late night games on ESPN. The AAC would compete head to head with the PAC 12. Some of BYU's and Boise St.'s better 2014 TV ratings were in the later games on Thursday and Saturday.
You could throw in San Diego St. or UNLV to round out the western arm with a good market, good potential, a good bowl game, and great basketball.
So something like...
East:
Army
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Memphis
Navy
Temple
UCF
USF
West:
Air Force
Boise State
BYU
Colorado State
Houston
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
I guess I could maybe buy that...
Let's talk about MWC merger.
The model above has too many mouths to feed. The AAC really needs to drop Tulsa & Tulane then find 6 western schools to merge with. I suggest Boise, BYU, San Diego st, Fresno St, AF and Colorado st.
My opinion is that because of a combo of performance, potential, revenue, geography, etc; the AAC is the highest level attainable at this time for nonP5 conference members. While select MWC members may compare to AAC programs, I'm not interested in spreading us thinning our geography thinner.
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 03:01 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:13 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Why do you think it is over?
Why do you think its not over?
I sense fear
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RE: Now that the B12 talk is officially dead
(12-19-2014 03:21 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: (12-19-2014 03:01 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: (12-19-2014 02:13 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Why do you think it is over?
Why do you think its not over?
I sense fear
What is it that you're scared of?
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