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John44932 Offline
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Recruiting
There is a pretty interesting article on ESPN Insider about the recruiting process at Cincinnati. http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecru...t?id=12543

Summary of the article:
Their motto is "Don't recruit ... get."

They look for who would be a good fit for the program and what it would take to get them. They ask "Is he a Bearcat?" This means is he tough, will he fit in, understand the program, etc. Some people won't be, and they don't waste time pursuing those guys. Toughness is a big part of this question.

They use the example of Quadri Moore - he's getting minutes off the bench, and if he continues to buy into their core values, his role will increase.

They do not want to spend time on a lot of top recruits just because they are highly ranked recruits. Being in the mix or on someone's final list is unimportant. They don't waste much time chasing players they are not likely to get.

They've been to 4 straight NCAA tournaments with only 1 top 25 recruiting class (No. 24 in 2013).

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Sometimes I wonder if our recruiting process is the complete opposite of this. We seem to go after a bunch of top guys, and someone comes in and gets them at the end. Or, if we end up getting some good recruits it is just a mashup of the best players we could get. They don't seem to share any common characteristics. I don't even know what our core values would be. I wonder if we would be more successful if we recruited certain types of players instead of trying to go after just the best available.
12-17-2014 11:03 PM
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Hard to compare - that has been Cincinnati's identity for over 20 years, through multiple coaching staffs and multiple conferences.
12-17-2014 11:48 PM
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It's a very different beast, and I can tell you, our recruiting process is equally frustrating when you realize that, once again, you've signed three players who are "tough" but can't put the ball in the basket AT ALL. It's all about team identity however as Trapper John says. We've really targeted guys like that for decades, almost all the way back to when Gale Catlett was coaching here. Sure some have a better grasp on offense (including their coaching staffs), but it has worked out and I think our fan base accepts it. To switch from a more high-octane type team to this though, would drive off fans pretty easily, because one thing's for sure, it's not the funnest game to watch.
12-18-2014 10:35 AM
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4 straight NCAA's? Man, let's do everything we can to emulate that program that is so clearly head and shoulders above us.
12-18-2014 02:26 PM
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(12-18-2014 02:26 PM)UpperTiger Wrote:  4 straight NCAA's? Man, let's do everything we can to emulate that program that is so clearly head and shoulders above us.

Maybe Cincy should fire the coach?
12-18-2014 03:44 PM
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I think recruiting is not all about just recruiting the Top 50 of the country. You have to talk to them and see if their personality fits in with the team. Or, at least, they support what the HC is trying to do. 90% of these HCs, like Coach Cal, only recruit the Top 50, and don't care about team chemistry. And, once in a while, you get a leader on the team that will pull the team together.

I think that is Memphis' problem, even before Coach Pastner, Tigers' keep recruiting for numbers, not for the person, and it takes both sides to make a great player.
12-18-2014 05:24 PM
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(12-18-2014 03:44 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 02:26 PM)UpperTiger Wrote:  4 straight NCAA's? Man, let's do everything we can to emulate that program that is so clearly head and shoulders above us.

Maybe Cincy should fire the coach?

Nah, he's already taken them to a S16.
12-18-2014 05:25 PM
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