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RE: Current NFL roster by P5/G5/FCS/D2 and below
P5 quaterbacks in NFL

1. Stafford (Georgia)
2. Brady (Michigan)
3. P. Manning (Tennessee)
4. E. Manning (Ole Miss)
5. Vick (Va Tech)
6. Cutler (Vanderbilt)
7. Rivers (NC State)
8. Wilson (NC State/Wisconsin)
9. Rogers (California)
10. Newton (Florida/Auburn)
11. Brees (Purdue)
12. E.J. Manuel (Florida State)
13. Stanton (Michigan State)
14. Tannehill (Texas A&M)
15. Orton (Purdue)
16. Sanchez (Southern Cal)
17. Palmer (Southern Cal)
18. Bradford (Oklahoma)
19. Hill (Maryland)
20. McCoy (Texas)
21. Griffin (Baylor)
22. Ryan (Boston College)
23. Henne (Michigan)
24. Mallet (Arkansas)
25. Locker (Washington)
26. Whitehurst (Clemson)
27. Mettenberger (Georgia / LSU)
28. G. Smith (WVU)
29. Manziel (Oregon/Texas A&M)
30. Ponder (FSU)
31. Cassel (Southern Cal)


G5 quarterbacks in NFL

1. Kaepernick (Nevada)
2. Roethlisberger (Miami OH)
3. Bridgewater (Louisville)
4. Carr (Fresno)
5. Lindley (San Diego State)
6. Bortles (UCF)
7. Smith (Utah)
8. Davis (Southern Miss)


FCS

1. Joe Flacco (Deleware)
2. Tony Romo (Eastern Illiniois)
3. Fitzpatrick (Havard)
12-18-2014 11:12 AM
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RE: Current NFL roster by P5/G5/FCS/D2 and below
(12-18-2014 11:12 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  P5 quaterbacks in NFL

1. Stafford (Georgia)
2. Brady (Michigan)
3. P. Manning (Tennessee)
4. E. Manning (Ole Miss)
5. Vick (Va Tech)
6. Cutler (Vanderbilt)
7. Rivers (NC State)
8. Wilson (NC State/Wisconsin)
9. Rogers (California)
10. Newton (Florida/Auburn)
11. Brees (Purdue)
12. E.J. Manuel (Florida State)
13. Stanton (Michigan State)
14. Tannehill (Texas A&M)
15. Orton (Purdue)
16. Sanchez (Southern Cal)
17. Palmer (Southern Cal)
18. Bradford (Oklahoma)
19. Hill (Maryland)
20. McCoy (Texas)
21. Griffin (Baylor)
22. Ryan (Boston College)
23. Henne (Michigan)
24. Mallet (Arkansas)
25. Locker (Washington)
26. Whitehurst (Clemson)
27. Mettenberger (Georgia / LSU)
28. G. Smith (WVU)
29. Manziel (Oregon/Texas A&M)
30. Ponder (FSU)
31. Cassel (Southern Cal)


G5 quarterbacks in NFL

1. Kaepernick (Nevada)
2. Roethlisberger (Miami OH)
3. Bridgewater (Louisville)
4. Carr (Fresno)
5. Lindley (San Diego State)
6. Bortles (UCF)
7. Smith (Utah)
8. Davis (Southern Miss)


FCS

1. Joe Flacco (Deleware)
2. Tony Romo (Eastern Illiniois)
3. Fitzpatrick (Havard)

I don't follow. There are way more than 42 QB's in the NFL, and way less than 42 starting QB's in the NFL if that's what you were going for (there are only 32 teams, so there can only be 32 starters). I'm guessing that there are 96 total QB's, plus or minus. Why did you leave out the other 54 QB's?
12-18-2014 11:22 AM
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RE: Current NFL roster by P5/G5/FCS/D2 and below
(12-18-2014 11:22 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 11:12 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  P5 quaterbacks in NFL

1. Stafford (Georgia)
2. Brady (Michigan)
3. P. Manning (Tennessee)
4. E. Manning (Ole Miss)
5. Vick (Va Tech)
6. Cutler (Vanderbilt)
7. Rivers (NC State)
8. Wilson (NC State/Wisconsin)
9. Rogers (California)
10. Newton (Florida/Auburn)
11. Brees (Purdue)
12. E.J. Manuel (Florida State)
13. Stanton (Michigan State)
14. Tannehill (Texas A&M)
15. Orton (Purdue)
16. Sanchez (Southern Cal)
17. Palmer (Southern Cal)
18. Bradford (Oklahoma)
19. Hill (Maryland)
20. McCoy (Texas)
21. Griffin (Baylor)
22. Ryan (Boston College)
23. Henne (Michigan)
24. Mallet (Arkansas)
25. Locker (Washington)
26. Whitehurst (Clemson)
27. Mettenberger (Georgia / LSU)
28. G. Smith (WVU)
29. Manziel (Oregon/Texas A&M)
30. Ponder (FSU)
31. Cassel (Southern Cal)


G5 quarterbacks in NFL

1. Kaepernick (Nevada)
2. Roethlisberger (Miami OH)
3. Bridgewater (Louisville)
4. Carr (Fresno)
5. Lindley (San Diego State)
6. Bortles (UCF)
7. Smith (Utah)
8. Davis (Southern Miss)


FCS

1. Joe Flacco (Deleware)
2. Tony Romo (Eastern Illiniois)
3. Fitzpatrick (Havard)

I don't follow. There are way more than 42 QB's in the NFL, and way less than 42 starting QB's in the NFL if that's what you were going for (there are only 32 teams, so there can only be 32 starters). I'm guessing that there are 96 total QB's, plus or minus. Why did you leave out the other 54 QB's?

I just listed the ones that I beleive started at least one game during the season. Is their any that I missed?
12-18-2014 11:25 AM
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RE: Current NFL roster by P5/G5/FCS/D2 and below
(12-18-2014 11:25 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 11:22 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 11:12 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  P5 quaterbacks in NFL

1. Stafford (Georgia)
2. Brady (Michigan)
3. P. Manning (Tennessee)
4. E. Manning (Ole Miss)
5. Vick (Va Tech)
6. Cutler (Vanderbilt)
7. Rivers (NC State)
8. Wilson (NC State/Wisconsin)
9. Rogers (California)
10. Newton (Florida/Auburn)
11. Brees (Purdue)
12. E.J. Manuel (Florida State)
13. Stanton (Michigan State)
14. Tannehill (Texas A&M)
15. Orton (Purdue)
16. Sanchez (Southern Cal)
17. Palmer (Southern Cal)
18. Bradford (Oklahoma)
19. Hill (Maryland)
20. McCoy (Texas)
21. Griffin (Baylor)
22. Ryan (Boston College)
23. Henne (Michigan)
24. Mallet (Arkansas)
25. Locker (Washington)
26. Whitehurst (Clemson)
27. Mettenberger (Georgia / LSU)
28. G. Smith (WVU)
29. Manziel (Oregon/Texas A&M)
30. Ponder (FSU)
31. Cassel (Southern Cal)
32. Glennon (NC State)
33. Luck (Stanford)
34. Anderson (Oregon State)


G5 quarterbacks in NFL

1. Kaepernick (Nevada)
2. Roethlisberger (Miami OH)
3. Bridgewater (Louisville)
4. Carr (Fresno)
5. Lindley (San Diego State)
6. Bortles (UCF)
7. Smith (Utah)
8. Davis (Southern Miss)


FCS

1. Joe Flacco (Deleware)
2. Tony Romo (Eastern Illiniois)
3. Fitzpatrick (Havard)

I don't follow. There are way more than 42 QB's in the NFL, and way less than 42 starting QB's in the NFL if that's what you were going for (there are only 32 teams, so there can only be 32 starters). I'm guessing that there are 96 total QB's, plus or minus. Why did you leave out the other 54 QB's?

I just listed the ones that I beleive started at least one game during the season. Is their any that I missed?

I missed Glennon, Luck and Anderson.
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RE: Current NFL roster by P5/G5/FCS/D2 and below
(12-18-2014 11:25 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 11:22 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(12-18-2014 11:12 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  P5 quaterbacks in NFL

1. Stafford (Georgia)
2. Brady (Michigan)
3. P. Manning (Tennessee)
4. E. Manning (Ole Miss)
5. Vick (Va Tech)
6. Cutler (Vanderbilt)
7. Rivers (NC State)
8. Wilson (NC State/Wisconsin)
9. Rogers (California)
10. Newton (Florida/Auburn)
11. Brees (Purdue)
12. E.J. Manuel (Florida State)
13. Stanton (Michigan State)
14. Tannehill (Texas A&M)
15. Orton (Purdue)
16. Sanchez (Southern Cal)
17. Palmer (Southern Cal)
18. Bradford (Oklahoma)
19. Hill (Maryland)
20. McCoy (Texas)
21. Griffin (Baylor)
22. Ryan (Boston College)
23. Henne (Michigan)
24. Mallet (Arkansas)
25. Locker (Washington)
26. Whitehurst (Clemson)
27. Mettenberger (Georgia / LSU)
28. G. Smith (WVU)
29. Manziel (Oregon/Texas A&M)
30. Ponder (FSU)
31. Cassel (Southern Cal)


G5 quarterbacks in NFL

1. Kaepernick (Nevada)
2. Roethlisberger (Miami OH)
3. Bridgewater (Louisville)
4. Carr (Fresno)
5. Lindley (San Diego State)
6. Bortles (UCF)
7. Smith (Utah)
8. Davis (Southern Miss)


FCS

1. Joe Flacco (Deleware)
2. Tony Romo (Eastern Illiniois)
3. Fitzpatrick (Havard)

I don't follow. There are way more than 42 QB's in the NFL, and way less than 42 starting QB's in the NFL if that's what you were going for (there are only 32 teams, so there can only be 32 starters). I'm guessing that there are 96 total QB's, plus or minus. Why did you leave out the other 54 QB's?

I just listed the ones that I beleive started at least one game during the season. Is their any that I missed?

Ahhhh, fair enough.
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I think bridgewater should be p5 since they were bcs
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(12-18-2014 09:31 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  I think bridgewater should be p5 since they were bcs

True. UL was in the BIG EAST and is now in the ACC. They were never not in a power conference (as defined by having an AQ bid).

Also, Johnny never played for Oregon. I know he committed there as a recruit and then decommitted, but I think that he should be 100% A&M.
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Cincinnati ahead of all Big 12 schools except for Texas and Oklahoma. Invite us, already!
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You left out TCU's Andy Dalton.
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(12-19-2014 10:56 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  You left out TCU's Andy Dalton.
So its 8 for the Go5, with Bridgewater in the P5 group, and Dalton (TCU was in the MWC when he led them) in the Go5.

(And thanks for Dalton, TCU.)
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(12-18-2014 08:39 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(12-17-2014 05:11 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-17-2014 03:02 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Piggybacking off of Quo (sorry Quo). I wanted to see a breakdown by tier of the current NFL roster.

This is not exact and probably off a few here and there.

P5 players: 1,337 (67%)
G5 players: 380 (19%)
FCS players: 176 (9%)
D2 & below players: 96 (5%)

The D2 has a smattering of NAIA, D3 and foreign players roughly about 25 players.

Was surprise at the total number of players in D2 and below. I didn't expect to see almost 100 players in the NFL from that level. Just shows that if you are good enough, the NFL will find you or at least invite you to try out.

Good post. Shows that the G5 is a lot closer to FCS/D2 level than to P5.

On a per school basis, that's actually a huge gap. There's about the same number of G5 and P5 schools (65 P5 and 62 G5, if I remember correctly). But there's 124 FCS schools, which is roughly double the P5. Doing some quick math, the average P5 school has 2.85 times as many NFL players as the average G5 school, and the average G5 school has 4.32 times the number of NFL players as the average FCS school.

Also, I'd bet that on a per-school basis, in this measure there's probably a bigger gap between the AAC/MWC/BYU and the rest of the G5 than there is between the rest of the G5 and FCS.

If FCS and D2 have 14% of the players, leaving 86% of the market to G5/P5 schools the predicted % of players in the NFL for G5 would be 41.3% and P5 44.7%

Thus the P5 by having 67% of the market share is only doing 50% better than what you would predict having 65 schools. A 65 school P5 and a 60 school G5.

Many of the G5 schools though have not played at the FBS level very long while ALL of the P5 have so if you discount the schools that have played in FBS less than 10 years (UTSA, WKU, ODU, Charlotte, UMass, Texas St, USA, Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Appalachian St)....the G5 numbers are down to 50. The predicted percentages then are 37.4% for G5 and 48.6% for P5. Then the P5 is only 37.9% better than what you would predict.

The NFL producing numbers between the G5 and FCS look more extreme. If 67% are playing in FBS and 5% D2 or lower, that leaves 28% of the market for the G5/FCS. If we define the G5 at 50 schools and 130 FCS. The predicted percentages to the NFL would be 20.2% FCS and 7.8% G5. The G5 is putting people into the NFL at 243% its predicted rate when compared to the FCS.

With all the new G5 schools that is going to tilt the talent much more in favor of the G5 relative to FCS and even P5 (unless there is a scholarship increase). There is a reason why North Dakota State has developed into the best FCS program, its one part of the country with limited FBS competition. That was true with FCS schools across the south but that is no longer true with all the FCS move ups.

The talent at Boise and Fresno says the West could handle a few more P5 level programs but the PAC won't allow it. AAC schools have higher NFL numbers because of tradition but in the long term tradition can be built at new schools in CUSA and the SBC.
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