(01-02-2015 04:40 AM)ctipton Wrote:  Ohio State runs past Alabama in Sugar Bowl; Buckeyes bound for title game
Nicole Auerbach, USA TODAY Sports 3:33 a.m. EST January 2, 2015

For the first time in nine years, an SEC team will not play for a national title.

And only because of the playoff system. If the previous system were still in place, the championship game could have been the two losers from yesterday.

(01-02-2015 09:06 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 09:01 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  If Jones wins the title there's no way you can sit him

Yeah, because he's the reason they're winning football games. The amount of credit he's getting is mind-blowing.

Jones deserved a ton of credit for the Wisconsin win. He played very well. Last night he was good enough to help the Bucks win. Barrett played like a Heisman candidate all year. There is no way he does not get the job. Jones should be looking to transfer.

As I watched the bowl games a couple thoughts came to mind...

Florida State lost to Oregon 59-20. Remember how people used to always cry for the Big East to lose their automatic bid to the BCS because UC and UConn lost big (which in hindsight were more competitive games than FSU's debacle yesterday.

Remember how the Big East would go 4-2 in bowl games and everyone declared the conference was equivalent to the MAC? The Big Twelve is currently 1-5 and the only team to win a game was playing in the MWC a couple years ago.

(01-02-2015 09:19 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I lived in Columbus throughout the 2000s up until last year. I said back when they beat us in September this was the best collection of talent at OSU since the late 1990s. John Cooper recruited better athletes than Jim Tressel, he just was not as good a coach. If Jim Tressel had Eddie George, Robert Smith, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, David Boston, Orlando Pace, Korey Stringer, Andy Katzenmoyer, Shawn Springs, etc. OSU would have won three or four NC's in the 1990s.

Meyer is dangerous because he is not only a great recruiter but he knows how to coach as well. Since I can't stand Ohio State, I am really hoping Jim Harbaugh can do the same at Michigan quickly.

Totally agree, Clifton. And I know you feel my pain having to live up here with these blowhards. I know Coop wasn't happy with me, but I honestly believe Meyer will win multiple titles while he's here.

(01-02-2015 09:51 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 09:19 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I lived in Columbus throughout the 2000s up until last year. I said back when they beat us in September this was the best collection of talent at OSU since the late 1990s. John Cooper recruited better athletes than Jim Tressel, he just was not as good a coach. If Jim Tressel had Eddie George, Robert Smith, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, David Boston, Orlando Pace, Korey Stringer, Andy Katzenmoyer, Shawn Springs, etc. OSU would have won three or four NC's in the 1990s.

Meyer is dangerous because he is not only a great recruiter but he knows how to coach as well. Since I can't stand Ohio State, I am really hoping Jim Harbaugh can do the same at Michigan quickly.

Totally agree, Clifton. And I know you feel my pain having to live up here with these blowhards. I know Coop wasn't happy with me, but I honestly believe Meyer will win multiple titles while he's here.

I am guessing they DVD of last night's game will be playing in the TV dept of every Wal-Mart in Central Ohio as early as next week. They played the 2002 NC game for about 7-8 years. I am guessing this one will be be playing for 4-5 years.

(01-02-2015 09:58 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 09:51 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 09:19 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I lived in Columbus throughout the 2000s up until last year. I said back when they beat us in September this was the best collection of talent at OSU since the late 1990s. John Cooper recruited better athletes than Jim Tressel, he just was not as good a coach. If Jim Tressel had Eddie George, Robert Smith, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, David Boston, Orlando Pace, Korey Stringer, Andy Katzenmoyer, Shawn Springs, etc. OSU would have won three or four NC's in the 1990s.

Meyer is dangerous because he is not only a great recruiter but he knows how to coach as well. Since I can't stand Ohio State, I am really hoping Jim Harbaugh can do the same at Michigan quickly.

Totally agree, Clifton. And I know you feel my pain having to live up here with these blowhards. I know Coop wasn't happy with me, but I honestly believe Meyer will win multiple titles while he's here.

I am guessing they DVD of last night's game will be playing in the TV dept of every Wal-Mart in Central Ohio as early as next week. They played the 2002 NC game for about 7-8 years. I am guessing this one will be be playing for 4-5 years.

LOL! Yes you know it all too well. I couldn't go through the airport for years without running into a group of people huddled around the gift shop TV watching the replay like it was live.

(01-02-2015 09:58 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 09:51 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 09:19 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I lived in Columbus throughout the 2000s up until last year. I said back when they beat us in September this was the best collection of talent at OSU since the late 1990s. John Cooper recruited better athletes than Jim Tressel, he just was not as good a coach. If Jim Tressel had Eddie George, Robert Smith, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, David Boston, Orlando Pace, Korey Stringer, Andy Katzenmoyer, Shawn Springs, etc. OSU would have won three or four NC's in the 1990s.

Meyer is dangerous because he is not only a great recruiter but he knows how to coach as well. Since I can't stand Ohio State, I am really hoping Jim Harbaugh can do the same at Michigan quickly.

Totally agree, Clifton. And I know you feel my pain having to live up here with these blowhards. I know Coop wasn't happy with me, but I honestly believe Meyer will win multiple titles while he's here.

I am guessing they DVD of last night's game will be playing in the TV dept of every Wal-Mart in Central Ohio as early as next week. They played the 2002 NC game for about 7-8 years. I am guessing this one will be be playing for 4-5 years.

That would be the Maurice Clarett all-star edition??

OSU/Oregon will end up being 55-50 or whatever and people will say how exciting it is.

Yet when a team like UC wins 55-50 (ala 2009) or Boise, or UH, etc everyone calls it gimmicky offenses and no defense.

Its a great double standard.

Las Vegas has Oregon opening as a 7 point favorite over tO$U.

(01-02-2015 10:58 AM)ctipton Wrote:  Las Vegas has Oregon opening as a 7 point favorite over tO$U.

Wish I had access to a sports book. Easy money.

Long time visitor, first time poster here. This is the best board out there for Bearcats discussion, IMHO.

I think the playoff system is good in that it removes the illusion of conference domination that fans of the SEC (and sometimes B1G) like to paint. We saw that play out last night with Alabama's game against tO$U. There is simply too much talent out there, both coaches and players, for one team or one section of the country to dominate on a consistent basis. Hopefully these teams will start cannabalizing each other to the point where the preseason rankings and recruiting ratings are handled with a bit more care by the media, since this is where most of the misleading occurs.

However, I do think the playoff system will remain at four teams for the foreseeable future. I think an eight team playoff will allow G5 schools to demonstrate the above a bit too much for the established powers' liking. I think they would much rather have one or two P5 conference get shut out on a rotating basis than allow a Boise State or other independent to make a deep run in the tournament. Hopefully the possibility of being shut out continues to drive realignment to the Bearcats' benefit.

(01-02-2015 11:32 AM)crex043 Wrote:  Long time visitor, first time poster here. This is the best board out there for Bearcats discussion, IMHO.

I think the playoff system is good in that it removes the illusion of conference domination that fans of the SEC (and sometimes B1G) like to paint. We saw that play out last night with Alabama's game against tO$U. There is simply too much talent out there, both coaches and players, for one team or one section of the country to dominate on a consistent basis. Hopefully these teams will start cannabalizing each other to the point where the preseason rankings and recruiting ratings are handled with a bit more care by the media, since this is where most of the misleading occurs.

However, I do think the playoff system will remain at four teams for the foreseeable future. I think an eight team playoff will allow G5 schools to demonstrate the above a bit too much for the established powers' liking. I think they would much rather have one or two P5 conference get shut out on a rotating basis than allow a Boise State or other independent to make a deep run in the tournament. Hopefully the possibility of being shut out continues to drive realignment to the Bearcats' benefit.

First of all welcome!

I think what you say makes sense but I think after they see the money (viewer ratings) the four team playoff has I think greed will dictate an 8 team version sooner than later. Just my opinion.

Welcome Crex.

I agree with Bearcat#1. I will also throw in that going to eight does not mean a G5 team will get in the playoff. It will likely be the 5 P5 Conference Champs+3 At-large. The next three will likely be other members of the P5 (for example this year the three at large would have been TCU, Mississippi State and Michigan State).

The only ranked G5 school this year was Boise at #20. There were 11 teams ranked ahead of them that had worse won/loss records. A G5 team would have to go undefeated to sniff an 8 team playoff and even then there is no guarantee.

(01-02-2015 11:37 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 11:32 AM)crex043 Wrote:  Long time visitor, first time poster here. This is the best board out there for Bearcats discussion, IMHO.

I think the playoff system is good in that it removes the illusion of conference domination that fans of the SEC (and sometimes B1G) like to paint. We saw that play out last night with Alabama's game against tO$U. There is simply too much talent out there, both coaches and players, for one team or one section of the country to dominate on a consistent basis. Hopefully these teams will start cannabalizing each other to the point where the preseason rankings and recruiting ratings are handled with a bit more care by the media, since this is where most of the misleading occurs.

However, I do think the playoff system will remain at four teams for the foreseeable future. I think an eight team playoff will allow G5 schools to demonstrate the above a bit too much for the established powers' liking. I think they would much rather have one or two P5 conference get shut out on a rotating basis than allow a Boise State or other independent to make a deep run in the tournament. Hopefully the possibility of being shut out continues to drive realignment to the Bearcats' benefit.

First of all welcome!

I think what you say makes sense but I think after they see the money (viewer ratings) the four team playoff has I think greed will dictate an 8 team version sooner than later. Just my opinion.

Thanks for the welcome. I hope you're right - hopefully the NCAA won't continue to be so backward thinking as they usually are.

(01-02-2015 11:32 AM)crex043 Wrote:  Long time visitor, first time poster here. This is the best board out there for Bearcats discussion, IMHO.

I think the playoff system is good in that it removes the illusion of conference domination that fans of the SEC (and sometimes B1G) like to paint. We saw that play out last night with Alabama's game against tO$U. There is simply too much talent out there, both coaches and players, for one team or one section of the country to dominate on a consistent basis. Hopefully these teams will start cannabalizing each other to the point where the preseason rankings and recruiting ratings are handled with a bit more care by the media, since this is where most of the misleading occurs.

However, I do think the playoff system will remain at four teams for the foreseeable future. I think an eight team playoff will allow G5 schools to demonstrate the above a bit too much for the established powers' liking. I think they would much rather have one or two P5 conference get shut out on a rotating basis than allow a Boise State or other independent to make a deep run in the tournament. Hopefully the possibility of being shut out continues to drive realignment to the Bearcats' benefit.

Welcome to the board. Would you say that I'm your favorite poster? TIA!

As to the 4-team playoff remaining for the time being, I agree. With that said, I think we'll eventually get to an 8-team playoff. It really would be the perfect number, IMO.

(01-02-2015 09:19 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Since I can't stand Ohio State, I am really hoping Jim Harbaugh can do the same at Michigan quickly.

Honestly, Michigan isn't that far off. If Harbaugh can find himself a QB, they'll compete in the Big Ten very quickly. Hell, they'd have won 3 more games with just average QB play this season. Schedule is very favorable next year too.

They've got a solid foundation on defense. The big piece missing is pass rushers. For comparison, Michigan's pass rush makes the Bengals' look terrifying.

The coaching staff he's rumored to be building is top notch.

Using this thread to laugh at Pitt. Epic collapse.