RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 10:46 AM)EerMeNow Wrote:
(12-17-2014 10:38 AM)Dasville Wrote: New AD will want his own coaches.
Would Gee hire Tressel as a temporary AD?
Hilarious. Could you imagine Gordon Gee, Jim Tressel, Bob Huggins, Dana Holgorsen, and Tom Brady on the same payroll? No shortage of personality in that group.
My early guess is that the new AD will either be the Rob Mullens (current Oregon AD) or the Whit Babcok (current Virginia Tech AD), with early money on Mullens.
Good luck prying him away from VaTech. I like him, and he did a good job at UC.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 01:06 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:
(12-17-2014 10:06 AM)nzmorange Wrote: Figures. The NCAA found one of the biggest jack***es in America, who just so happens to have a healthy dose of moron, and made him the #2 guy. I should have seen that coming.
And as a WVU alumnus he carries a healthy dislike of Syracuse.
Legend..................Wait for it................
Figures. The NCAA found one of the biggest jack***es in America, who just so happens to have a healthy dose of moron, and made him the #2 guy. I should have seen that coming.
Oliver Luck - the Rhodes Scholar jack ass......hmmmm. You my friend are sad.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 01:15 PM)ren.hoek Wrote: neither mullens nor babcock would leave their current posts for WVU.
#realitycheck
(12-17-2014 10:46 AM)EerMeNow Wrote:
(12-17-2014 10:38 AM)Dasville Wrote: New AD will want his own coaches.
Would Gee hire Tressel as a temporary AD?
Hilarious. Could you imagine Gordon Gee, Jim Tressel, Bob Huggins, Dana Holgorsen, and Tom Brady on the same payroll? No shortage of personality in that group.
My early guess is that the new AD will either be the Rob Mullens (current Oregon AD) or the Whit Babcock (current Virginia Tech AD), with early money on Mullens.
Whit Babcock isn't leaving VT, I imagine he's just now getting settled into that job.
Rob Mullens does want the job and has made his interest known. He's a WVU guy who wants to come home.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
I am curious as to who WVU will choose to replace Luck. Ollie was a good AD for WVU and helped the university transition successfully to the Big XII during the demise of the Big East. He made some good hires, and all programs appear to be on sound footing for the future. Next season WVU receives the full B12 share, since this is the last year of the transition.
I know a lot of WVU fans expect Oregon's AD to jump at the chance to come back home, and I expect WVU will feel him out. But there are a few other names that have been floated about by folks I know that would merit consideration as well. I figure the process to replace Luck will prove interesting, to say the least.
I'm also curious to see what impact, if any, his hire will have on the NCAA and its actions in the future. That will prove to be the most interesting aspect of this move. I'm also curious to see how long will Emmert remain with the NCAA before Luck takes over, if that's the long term goal of this move. Interesting times, it seems.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 02:04 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:
(12-17-2014 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:
(12-17-2014 11:49 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote: $5 says the Big 12 will get that 10 team championship game exemption now
not if the other 4 P5 conferences don't want it to happen.
The ACC wants the rule changed too.
The ACC is concerned about the divisional play aspect of the rule. They found an easy ally in the B12 wanting a championship with 10 teams. I wouldn't pretend that the ACC and the B12 want the same thing. The ACC, B10, and Pac12 have all asked at various times if they could hold a championship with less than 12. The answer was always no.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 02:21 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:
(12-17-2014 02:04 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:
(12-17-2014 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:
(12-17-2014 11:49 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote: $5 says the Big 12 will get that 10 team championship game exemption now
not if the other 4 P5 conferences don't want it to happen.
The ACC wants the rule changed too.
The ACC is concerned about the divisional play aspect of the rule. They found an easy ally in the B12 wanting a championship with 10 teams. I wouldn't pretend that the ACC and the B12 want the same thing. The ACC, B10, and Pac12 have all asked at various times if they could hold a championship with less than 12. The answer was always no.
Yeah what the ACC wants and what the Big 12 wants are pretty close to apples and oranges.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 03:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:
(12-17-2014 02:21 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:
(12-17-2014 02:04 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:
(12-17-2014 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:
(12-17-2014 11:49 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote: $5 says the Big 12 will get that 10 team championship game exemption now
not if the other 4 P5 conferences don't want it to happen.
The ACC wants the rule changed too.
The ACC is concerned about the divisional play aspect of the rule. They found an easy ally in the B12 wanting a championship with 10 teams. I wouldn't pretend that the ACC and the B12 want the same thing. The ACC, B10, and Pac12 have all asked at various times if they could hold a championship with less than 12. The answer was always no.
Yeah what the ACC wants and what the Big 12 wants are pretty close to apples and oranges.
Is that important, when a mutually beneficial rule change gets both what they want?
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 10:02 AM)Danger in Carolina Wrote: Good hire. Was surprised that Luck was at WVU as long as he was after the move to the Big 12. Thought he would have been a great Big12 Commissioner. He certainly would have handled some of the issues better than Bowlsby did.
The B12 doesn't need a commissioner, Texas is the B12's Commissioner.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 05:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:
(12-17-2014 10:02 AM)Danger in Carolina Wrote: Good hire. Was surprised that Luck was at WVU as long as he was after the move to the Big 12. Thought he would have been a great Big12 Commissioner. He certainly would have handled some of the issues better than Bowlsby did.
The B12 doesn't need a commissioner, Texas is the B12's Commissioner.
This^^^.... LOL....
(This post was last modified: 12-17-2014 05:28 PM by Underdog.)
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 05:16 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:
(12-17-2014 03:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:
(12-17-2014 02:21 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:
(12-17-2014 02:04 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:
(12-17-2014 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote: not if the other 4 P5 conferences don't want it to happen.
The ACC wants the rule changed too.
The ACC is concerned about the divisional play aspect of the rule. They found an easy ally in the B12 wanting a championship with 10 teams. I wouldn't pretend that the ACC and the B12 want the same thing. The ACC, B10, and Pac12 have all asked at various times if they could hold a championship with less than 12. The answer was always no.
Yeah what the ACC wants and what the Big 12 wants are pretty close to apples and oranges.
Is that important, when a mutually beneficial rule change gets both what they want?
Except that for the ACC it's not really beneficial to allow the Big 12 the 10 team rule change. Money talks and with 10, the Big 12 is at an extreme money difference that I just can't see the ACC and others wanting to continue in any fashion. So if the committee continues to favor CCG winners, and they can't get the exception, Big 12 would have no other choice but to expand.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 02:21 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:
(12-17-2014 02:04 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:
(12-17-2014 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:
(12-17-2014 11:49 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote: $5 says the Big 12 will get that 10 team championship game exemption now
not if the other 4 P5 conferences don't want it to happen.
The ACC wants the rule changed too.
The ACC is concerned about the divisional play aspect of the rule. They found an easy ally in the B12 wanting a championship with 10 teams. I wouldn't pretend that the ACC and the B12 want the same thing. The ACC, B10, and Pac12 have all asked at various times if they could hold a championship with less than 12. The answer was always no.
Big 12 will want the freedom from divisions anyway because Texas, Okla, Okla State, TCU, and Baylor all in the same division would be a disaster for the conference, imho.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 05:40 PM)Dasville Wrote: The ACC can not lose in supporting the Big 12.
money wise they sure could. If you extrapolate out this year for 3 years-
ACC makes 83.5 mil this year (50 mil plus 6 mil for FSU plus 27.5 for Orange Bowl), would make 50 mil plus 6 mil for FSU next year, and 83.5 mil in 2016. that's a total of 223 mil. divide by 14 schools- and that's 15.9 mil. divide by 3 and average of 5.31 mil per school per year.
B12 makes 58 mil this year(50 mil plus 4 mil each for TCU,Bay). Next year that would go up to 50 mil plus 40 mil plus 8 mil for KSU. in 2016- 94 mil. That's a total of 250 mil. Divide by 10 schools- that's 25 mil. divide by 3 and that's 8.33 mil per school per year...
That's a HUGE gap there. And while the ACC is the lowest, the other conferences are a lot closer to the ACC than they are the Big 12. That's 1 primary reason why I don't think I ever see the other p5 conferences allowing the Big 12 to have a 10 team conference with a CCG.
RE: Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
(12-17-2014 10:41 AM)oliveandblue Wrote: Oliver Luck doesn't frick around. That's the scary part. He's going to move really fast compared to what we're used to.
Obviously He won't have a problem with Any school leaving a current G5 conference to join say the Big12 without a waiting period .
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Oliver Luck is leaving WVU to become NCAA second in command
