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Awesome response in WA state
http://www.christianpost.com/news/over-1...ce-131193/

Quote:Fed up with the passage of an 18½-page incoherent, rambling, unconstitutional gun control initiative that was bankrolled by billionaires, gun owners across Washington State held the largest felony civil disobedience rally in the nation's history, brazenly titled "I Will Not Comply." No one was hurt and no stores were looted. Between 1,000 and 3,000 lawful gun owners showed up openly armed at the state capitol in Olympia, Wash., on Saturday to defy the newly passed gun control law, I-594.

Organizer Gavin Seim made the extraordinary nature of the rally very clear, "This isn't just a protest. We are here to openly violate the law." Attendees publicly transferred their guns to each other in violation of I-591's background check provisions, and some even bought and sold guns just a few feet away from law enforcement. A fire pit blazed throughout the rally, and at the conclusion, gun owners lined up to burn their concealed weapons permits. A petition was circulated affirming gun owners' refusal to follow I-594, which ended with, "We pledge our blood. We will not comply."

As the RSVPs in advance of the rally grew to over 6,000, the police - most who probably detest I-594 - decided not to enforce the law. The Washington State Patrol announced there would be no arrests for exchanging guns - not even for selling guns. Seim refused to obtain a permit to hold the rally, citing the right of people to peaceably assemble.

The rally could not be dismissed as fringe elements. Several lawmakers and lawmen spoke, including former Graham County Sheriff Richard Mack of Arizona, Washington State Rep. Elizabeth Scott (R-Monroe) and Rep. Graham Hunt (R-Orting), who sported an AR-15 during his speech. Mack advised gun owners engaging in civil disobedience to "put your sheriff next to you to keep it peaceful." Scott defiantly explained in her speech, "I will not comply with I-594 because it is unconstitutional, unenforceable and unjust. It is impossible to enforce this law unless there is a police officer on every back porch and in every living room. So it will be enforced selectively." She noted that Founding Father Alexander Hamilton said any law that violates the Constitution is not valid, and there is a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws.
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I'm surprised the lefties on this board are silent on this.
12-16-2014 01:20 PM
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(12-16-2014 01:20 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I'm surprised the lefties on this board are silent on this.

I'm not. Without the theft and destruction of property - it was a civil protest. Lefties don't know what that looks like.
12-16-2014 02:02 PM
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I'm not entirely thrilled with the open carry aspect of this protest. It comes off as trolling for no real purpose. And while I definitely lean more towards gun permissibility, the general refusal to acknowledge the validity of background checks drives people away from a just cause.
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(12-16-2014 12:46 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  http://www.christianpost.com/news/over-1...ce-131193/

Quote:Fed up with the passage of an 18½-page incoherent, rambling, unconstitutional gun control initiative that was bankrolled by billionaires, gun owners across Washington State held the largest felony civil disobedience rally in the nation's history, brazenly titled "I Will Not Comply." No one was hurt and no stores were looted. Between 1,000 and 3,000 lawful gun owners showed up openly armed at the state capitol in Olympia, Wash., on Saturday to defy the newly passed gun control law, I-594.

Organizer Gavin Seim made the extraordinary nature of the rally very clear, "This isn't just a protest. We are here to openly violate the law." Attendees publicly transferred their guns to each other in violation of I-591's background check provisions, and some even bought and sold guns just a few feet away from law enforcement. A fire pit blazed throughout the rally, and at the conclusion, gun owners lined up to burn their concealed weapons permits. A petition was circulated affirming gun owners' refusal to follow I-594, which ended with, "We pledge our blood. We will not comply."

As the RSVPs in advance of the rally grew to over 6,000, the police - most who probably detest I-594 - decided not to enforce the law. The Washington State Patrol announced there would be no arrests for exchanging guns - not even for selling guns. Seim refused to obtain a permit to hold the rally, citing the right of people to peaceably assemble.

The rally could not be dismissed as fringe elements. Several lawmakers and lawmen spoke, including former Graham County Sheriff Richard Mack of Arizona, Washington State Rep. Elizabeth Scott (R-Monroe) and Rep. Graham Hunt (R-Orting), who sported an AR-15 during his speech. Mack advised gun owners engaging in civil disobedience to "put your sheriff next to you to keep it peaceful." Scott defiantly explained in her speech, "I will not comply with I-594 because it is unconstitutional, unenforceable and unjust. It is impossible to enforce this law unless there is a police officer on every back porch and in every living room. So it will be enforced selectively." She noted that Founding Father Alexander Hamilton said any law that violates the Constitution is not valid, and there is a moral obligation to disobey unjust laws.

Finally, people in that state standing up to all the lib crap that goes on around the Puget Sound and West of the Cascades. The rest of the state not so much. East of the Cascades it's a different place. 04-rock
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Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink
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(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Hey, I like where I live. I've visited cities all over the country and can say with confidence that the only places I like better than Spokane are also in the Northwest.

Spokane has also improved a lot since they late 90s.
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Nothing wrong with authorities not enforcing a law they don't like. Obama and the "justice" department do it all the time.
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(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Nothing of course like NO. We know how safe it is.07-coffee3
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(12-16-2014 08:47 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Nothing wrong with authorities not enforcing a law they don't like. Obama and the "justice" department do it all the time.

It should be your duty as a citizen to ignore unjust laws. If we all did it daily? The number of them would be small and effective. It is also your duty and right as a juror to judge not only the defendant but the law they are charged under. The SCOTUS has ruled so numerous times. Anyone interested in this type of civil disobedience should Google....FIJA(Fully Informed Jury Assoc.)
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(12-16-2014 08:40 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Hey, I like where I live. I've visited cities all over the country and can say with confidence that the only places I like better than Spokane are also in the Northwest.

Spokane has also improved a lot since they late 90s.

I love NewOrleans but the PNW will always hold my heart
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(12-16-2014 08:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Nothing of course like NO. We know how safe it is.07-coffee3

Lol at someone from Greenville talking in a relevant cities discussion.
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(12-16-2014 09:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 08:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Nothing of course like NO. We know how safe it is.07-coffee3

Lol at someone from Greenville talking in a relevant cities discussion.

Not from Greenville...but...don't let that stand in the way of your deflection.
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(12-16-2014 09:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 09:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 08:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Nothing of course like NO. We know how safe it is.07-coffee3

Lol at someone from Greenville talking in a relevant cities discussion.

Not from Greenville...but...don't let that stand in the way of your deflection.

You bringing up New Orleans had zero to do with cities of the PNW and youre worrying about my deflection?07-coffee3
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(12-16-2014 09:42 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 09:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 09:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 08:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Nothing of course like NO. We know how safe it is.07-coffee3

Lol at someone from Greenville talking in a relevant cities discussion.

Not from Greenville...but...don't let that stand in the way of your deflection.

You bringing up New Orleans had zero to do with cities of the PNW and youre worrying about my deflection?07-coffee3

You started the city bashing.
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(12-16-2014 09:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 08:40 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 07:46 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Lets not tout cities like Spokane (SpoCompton) and eastern Washington as jewels of the state 03-wink

Hey, I like where I live. I've visited cities all over the country and can say with confidence that the only places I like better than Spokane are also in the Northwest.

Spokane has also improved a lot since they late 90s.

I love NewOrleans but the PNW will always hold my heart

I know how you feel: I love Dallas (been here 29 years), but New York (childhood) & New England (high school, college) will always be home.
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Lived in Kettle Falls, WA (one hour north of Spokane, WA) for 5 months and loved it there. Nice hidden gem and beautiful nature surrounding. Great fishing as well!

Now I'm stuck in the LIBERAL capital of New Jersey.

Why oh why did I ever move back
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(12-17-2014 09:29 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Lived in Kettle Falls, WA (one hour north of Spokane, WA) for 5 months and loved it there. Nice hidden gem and beautiful nature surrounding. Great fishing as well!

Now I'm stuck in the LIBERAL capital of New Jersey.

Why oh why did I ever move back

Small world. I have a bunch of relatives that live just over Sherman pass (Cerlew lake area). We'd always beg my grandma to stop for ice cream in kettle falls.


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"Out of my cold dead hands"

At least now they're being consistent.
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(12-17-2014 10:18 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  
(12-17-2014 09:29 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  Lived in Kettle Falls, WA (one hour north of Spokane, WA) for 5 months and loved it there. Nice hidden gem and beautiful nature surrounding. Great fishing as well!

Now I'm stuck in the LIBERAL capital of New Jersey.

Why oh why did I ever move back

Small world. I have a bunch of relatives that live just over Sherman pass (Cerlew lake area). We'd always beg my grandma to stop for ice cream in kettle falls.


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"Sherman Pass" ...... I havent heard someone say that in 4 years. I explored camping and hiking in Colville National Forest. I worked as a seasonal LEO for Lake Roosevelt National Recreation Area. Loved the job and the adventures it took me!
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