I think it's a distinct possibility.

TV money has already put a damper in my gameday experience. There are too many TV timeouts and they are too long.

G5 greed?

Umm, I think you have it backwards there buddy...

More like P5 Greed.

(12-16-2014 12:12 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  G5 greed?

Umm, I think you have it backwards there buddy...

The moronic nature of miko's posts are gaining speed.

I am guessing 12 pages of posts.

(12-16-2014 12:12 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  G5 greed?

Umm, I think you have it backwards there buddy...

no he doesn't. while he may or may not be considered a troll (not gonna touch that) there is a very valid point being made here.

Some of the G5 have come out against a lot of the reforms regarding student athletes that are necessary to advance college sports as a whole. the rationale for blocking moves that only benefit student athletes and safeguard the P5 from lawsuits is that they can afford it, but the G5 can't.

that toxic attitude IMO is what will do the most damage.

Much of the G5 is trying to destabilize CFB with possible litigation and working back channels to try to curb much needed to improve the sport. It's turning into a dirty quagmire of deceit and nastiness.

(12-16-2014 12:39 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Much of the G5 is trying to destabilize CFB with possible litigation and working back channels to try to curb much needed to improve the sport. It's turning into a dirty quagmire of deceit and nastiness.

Miko33 stirring Crap!

I'd say Pitt putting out a product proclaiming to be "power 5 football" is destabilizing college football much faster than anything the G5 could do.

Division I greed has already ruined college football.

I like ice cream. Especially vanilla and chocolate, though most would find those too plain. No sprinkles or nuts or anything.

The only bad thing for college football coming out of the G5 is the 'rats on a sinking ship' mentality so many schools have. Most schools would burn down half their own campus if it meant an invite up a peg, and what they are willing to do to others for the same thing is best left unsaid.

Well, that may be a touch of an exaggeration but you get the point.

Other than that, I enjoy a lot of the G5 games because the games are much more competitive a lot of the time. The squads are evenly matched.

(12-16-2014 03:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The only bad thing for college football coming out of the G5 is the 'rats on a sinking ship' mentality so many schools have. Most schools would burn down half their own campus if it meant an invite up a peg, and what they are willing to do to others for the same thing is best left unsaid.

Well, that may be a touch of an exaggeration but you get the point.

Other than that, I enjoy a lot of the G5 games because the games are much more competitive a lot of the time. The squads are evenly matched.

Thanks, and that is part of my point. I think if they would take some of that money and back room chicanery and refocus it on making the schools better for the students, these schools would be much better off.

There were psychology studies done that showed people would rather tear something down in the name of "fairness" than they would prefer to have all have an improved quality of life if that would mean a few people get a little more. It's a highly destructive attitude to have. I weep for people like this.

(12-16-2014 03:20 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I weep for people like this.

I weep for people that wasted 2 minutes of their lives reading this dumb thread.

Congrats - you've made my ignore list. Won't make the same mistake twice.

What a moron.

G5 schools wouldn't be at each other's throats so often if most of them were in conferences with like-minded schools.

A big problem in a lot of non-P5 conferences is that the schools often have very little to do with one another. They're all bad fits that have formed marriages out of "necessity".

Hey, I thought the Big 12 commish already said in an interview that fans wouldn't like the coming changes to the P5.

Could it be a hint ruin is already on the way?

Miko... you da man (I think).

(12-16-2014 12:13 PM)nbcards Wrote:  More like P5 Greed.

Absolutely.

But consider this, the G5 could restructure their conferences to make more sense. Regional rivalries among peer institutions is what builds interest. It keeps fan interest up, and allows them to travel w/ teams. It also keeps costs lower. It's why early conferences were formed where they were.

Yet G5 programs won't restructure b/c of greed...they fear they'll be leaving a few dollars on the table and/or they'll be missing a conference with a couple of better teams (usually in a single sport), instead of looking to build solid programs and leagues.

But, while this is a problem, it won't ruin college football. It is the greed of P5 programs that will do that, like you said. My interest in college football plummeted w/ the BCS. And after this season's playoff selection fiasco, I doubt I'll be all that interested.

When BYU is not part of the group, there is a problem.

A former football coach said this....in 1998, when asked about the creation of BCS.

And there was a problem...and there still is.

BYU is better than many of the P5 programs from an athletic standpoint on all levels...tradition, facilities, attendance, etc.....

So I will respond to Miko's post with a question.

Why is BYU not part of the group?

For BYU the answer is simple. Their mission and values do not line up with the closest P5 conference that could reasonably give them a home. Like minded schools want to associate together. While BYU has plenty of their own traditions, they culturally are not a fit. While they seem to fit the bill academically, the fact that the Mormon church is so ingrained in what BYU does as an institution, it puts into question what the university can pursue on an academic front when it comes to research. I'm no expert on what schools figure as the most robust research institutions vs which ones are not so hot, but a school with such a strong religious connection will have potential issues to deal with whenever academic research conflicts with church dogma.