CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

To have a championship game I thought you had to play all members in your division. Was their a waiver for CUSA this past year?

Quote:C-USA was slated to become a 14-team football league in 2015, with UNC Charlotte moving up from the Football Championship Subdivision and joining the East Division while UAB would move to the West. Because the West is back to six teams, it's impossible to do a true round-robin schedule in the East.

That means four teams in the East, likely to be picked by computer, would play only five of the other six East members. ODU was among the four picked this season - the Monarchs did not play UAB and played three, instead of two, games against the West Division.

(12-17-2014 09:33 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  To have a championship game I thought you had to play all members in your division. Was their a waiver for CUSA this past year?

They must be getting waivers every year. NCAA has been allowing 13 team leagues to have a title game since Temple first joined the MAC.

(12-17-2014 09:36 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:33 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  To have a championship game I thought you had to play all members in your division. Was their a waiver for CUSA this past year?

They must be getting waivers every year. NCAA has been allowing 13 team leagues to have a title game since Temple first joined the MAC.

Maybe. I wonder if they're just playing one less cross-divisional game.

(12-17-2014 09:15 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

The Big 12 is going to expand. The only question is whom will they take. I think for sure they take Cincinnati to serve as a travel partner for WVU. The question then becomes who is the second team. It has been rumored that they have been looking at BYU and the second team is Boise St. The ONLY thing holding Boise St. back is their academics but we all know that football drives the expansion bus and I have heard some serious talk about within the UTEP big donors.

(12-17-2014 02:03 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 11:02 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  If C-USA is going to add a team, lets be smart about it. Army is a no brainer, if they are willing to play in the west, great. But, I think if they were to join a conference, they would want to rejoin Navy. U-Mass doesn't really make sense. neither MT nor WKU will want to split and move to the west. We have enough Texas teams, and we don't need another team in Louisiana.

NIU makes the most sense to me. Although they are not a good geographic fit, they bring an excellent football program into the conference, and they would increase the possibility of C-USA having multiple ranked teams at the end of the season. And the most important factor should we select a new member, is to add a team that will elevate the overall strength of the conference. I think C-USA can offer them better media payouts, move overall T.V. coverage, better bowl options, and stiffer overall competition.

Thoughts?

Adding Army would be a home run but has Army shown any interest? Seems like this may have been a forum talk creation.

Adding NIU would be an inside the park home run. I just don't see them leaving the MAC. It is essentially a lateral move. MAC has a decent amount of bowls now. Has the same Access ability. Why pay the conference entrance/exit fee?

No one else moves the dial. Staying at 13 is likely the best option even with the schedule headaches. If we lose 1 more to conference alignment 12 might be the magic number.

With the loss of UAB this conference is down to UTEP, Marshall, USM, and Rice original members. Give the conference a little bit of time before we expand again. Especially when we don't "have" to. The conference did well this year. 8 bowl eligible teams (I'm counting ODU). What concerns me is the 5 or so yearly bowl tie-ins. It's no fun being bowl eligible and staying home. I'd rather have 5 bowls for 13 teams than for 14.

Charlotte

(12-17-2014 09:40 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:36 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:33 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  To have a championship game I thought you had to play all members in your division. Was their a waiver for CUSA this past year?

They must be getting waivers every year. NCAA has been allowing 13 team leagues to have a title game since Temple first joined the MAC.

Maybe. I wonder if they're just playing one less cross-divisional game.

No. 4 teams didn't play each other in the east. I know UAB-ODU is one of the match ups that didn't happen.

(12-17-2014 09:15 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

I have to agree with you. IMO Boise St is a non-starter for any P5 conference because of location and academics. Colorado St, Cincy, Memphis all have some sort of chance if the Big 12 expands. BYU too if they were not such a pain to deal with.

(12-16-2014 09:51 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  http://hamptonroads.com/2014/12/football...am-league#

Harry says next year's schedule was done and now league will have to start over. Some other interesting insights.

It reads like he's running it up the flagpole, Banowsky can float a story like this and then gauge the reaction.

If you look at if from that angle (i.e. CUSA Admin testing the waters) some interesting things come out:

There is support for Texas State within the other Texas schools, if an addition must come from the West.

Also, it appears James Madison has enough support from the schools in the East if MTSU would agree to move to the West.

Reading between the lines the league could be willing to move forward with 13 for everything but football if Army would come back to the league for football only.

Also looks like a warning to Southern Miss; everyone knows USM does not want to be in a league with USA but the article states that Southern Miss is "surely wanting to add another Alabama school." Banowsky and/or Selig could be sending a message to USM's administration that, at some point, if USA is the best candidate, you (USM) will have to relent on this.

Finally it lists the also-ran schools that want to join CUSA but wouldn't have enough support to gain membership - A-State, Liberty, Georgia Southern, and ULL.

My support would be for JMU w/ MTSU moving to West.

I think Harry is just speculating on which schools are being considered. There's still a long way to go before any voting occurs.

Personally, I'm against any move that moves WKU and or MT West so no eastern addition unless the NCAA rules on the ACC's request to do away with divisions, then all bets are off.

Any way we cut it BB is taking a hit with the loss of UAB so just add ULL and be done with it.

Was that gif made at a Frisco bathhouse?

1. UMASS and Army are terrible adds (Army was in CUSA once before) UNLESS MTSU and WKU move to the West...Having UMASS or Army in the west is ridiculous IMHO
2. The Big 12 is filing for a waiver of the 12 team requirement for a CCG. If it is granted, they will not expand.
3. If it is not granted, then I would look for Cincy and Memphis (Memphis is the bridge between Cincy and Ames, IA)
4. It will NOT be BYU, as they do not play on Sundays....No Big 12 team will stand for preferential scheduling
5. Don't be surprised if CSU would be added in lieu of Memphis
6. We need to not be in a rush to add anyone until the trickle down happens...
7. But if we add, we need to add Louisiana IMHO

(12-17-2014 12:13 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

Was that gif made at a Frisco bathhouse?

If this was supposed to scare someone it did the opposite. It's comical and stupid.

I say, stay at 13 until something occurs that is best for the conference. Let's not add for addings sake.

(12-17-2014 11:14 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:15 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

I have to agree with you. IMO Boise St is a non-starter for any P5 conference because of location and academics. Colorado St, Cincy, Memphis all have some sort of chance if the Big 12 expands. BYU too if they were not such a pain to deal with.

(12-17-2014 10:25 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:15 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

The Big 12 is going to expand. The only question is whom will they take. I think for sure they take Cincinnati to serve as a travel partner for WVU. The question then becomes who is the second team. It has been rumored that they have been looking at BYU and the second team is Boise St. The ONLY thing holding Boise St. back is their academics but we all know that football drives the expansion bus and I have heard some serious talk about within the UTEP big donors.

Big12 is going East this time around. It will be Cincy and Memphis if they dont get that waiver.

(12-17-2014 01:08 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 11:14 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:15 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

I have to agree with you. IMO Boise St is a non-starter for any P5 conference because of location and academics. Colorado St, Cincy, Memphis all have some sort of chance if the Big 12 expands. BYU too if they were not such a pain to deal with.

(12-17-2014 10:25 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 09:15 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:48 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  CUSA might not have to add anyone. The Big 12 is looking to expand and Boise St. is one of their candidates. The only thing holding Boise St. back is their academics. If the Big 12 takes Boise St. then UTEP will be gone to the MWC and CUSA can stay at 12. There is at least a 70% chance that this is going to happen.

Although there's no G-5 with a more successful football history than Boise State; I think Hades Freezes over before B12 takes Boise. On the other hand, if the Freeze occurs I expect MWC to try and lure UTEP away. By the time we drop to twelve; CUSA should have a whole lot better picture of available options and candidates for expansion. Personally, I love Army! They move the TV Needle; but I don't like a "football only" just to get back to 13. EXPANSION IS ALL ABOUT $! AND MORE TV SETS MEANS MORE $!

The Big 12 is going to expand. The only question is whom will they take. I think for sure they take Cincinnati to serve as a travel partner for WVU. The question then becomes who is the second team. It has been rumored that they have been looking at BYU and the second team is Boise St. The ONLY thing holding Boise St. back is their academics but we all know that football drives the expansion bus and I have heard some serious talk about within the UTEP big donors.

Big12 is going East this time around. It will be Cincy and Memphis if they dont get that waiver.

And that won't be resolved until April.

(12-17-2014 12:54 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 12:13 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

Was that gif made at a Frisco bathhouse?

If this was supposed to scare someone it did the opposite. It's comical and stupid.

This was from 2012, it was Tech's O-Line dancing to Sexy and I Know It by LMFAO, it was meant to be silly and was shown during home games during breaks, I think they also had a clip of the WR's/RB's dancing to something else...

Here's a better gif for you Fanatico

^^^ Sizzle +2

Still don't get Army. This conference needs teams that are actually good at football more than anything. And we all know Army delivers the NYC market as well as SMU delivers the Dallas market.