It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competitive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect- even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our program LONGTERM!

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that we had the players, but that this coach is not getting them to play.

(12-14-2014 09:05 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that we had the players, but that this coach is not getting them to play.

Many times. Besides how is it possible "Cherry Picker" could recognize what a measured tone is?

I don't understand what makes my initial thread "psycho". I stated truth. I did not state a blind fire Pastner, or bashing statment.

(12-14-2014 09:05 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that we had the players, but that this coach is not getting them to play.

Then, in a curious tone, the announcers wondered why the Tigers were fouling down by close to 20 with under a minute to play.

Then, in a sarcastic tone, the announcers surmised the Tigers were practicing their late game fouling for future games.

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

The announcers said a lot last night, mainly because the game was boring and really never in doubt. They had to fill two hours of air time with commentary since the game was a dud. I'd suggest all ESPN announcers come prepared with plenty of filler when broadcasting UofM games this year.

Local BBQ restaurants take notice... free ESPN national plugs are there for the taking during the second half of every ESPN broadcast of Tiger home games.

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

Did you take it personally?

People shouldn't take it personally if fans are passionate about the state of our program. I truly believe that if we lost while being competitive and playing good basketball then you wouldn't have half of the people calling for Pastner's resignation.

(12-14-2014 09:59 AM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

Did you take it personally?

Snicker

Excellent post.

What's killing me about the Pastner era is that I really LIKE most of the kids. There have been teams in the past where you knew the kids were a little sketchy, but you pulled for them anyway, hoping that something good would rub off on them.

With Pastner I'm hoping that the toughness and character of the kids might rub off on the coach. They deserve better.

(12-14-2014 11:22 AM)DogFather Wrote:  Excellent post.

What's killing me about the Pastner era is that I really LIKE most of the kids. There have been teams in the past where you knew the kids were a little sketchy, but you pulled for them anyway, hoping that something good would rub off on them.

With Pastner I'm hoping that the toughness and character of the kids might rub off on the coach. They deserve better.

Yea...Josh is actually managing to deflate the mental edge that these players have...continuously....Tarik was one of them and he's doing the same to Iverson did it to Big Dom and very close to doing that same ton Pookie....Austin;Shaq and King especially are becoming a shell of themselves.....King had so much passion and fire last year...Now he's lost, with barely a flicker of flame left.....

It's also happening to the fans...Listen & look at us We're miserable!!!!

(12-14-2014 11:51 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 11:22 AM)DogFather Wrote:  Excellent post.

What's killing me about the Pastner era is that I really LIKE most of the kids. There have been teams in the past where you knew the kids were a little sketchy, but you pulled for them anyway, hoping that something good would rub off on them.

With Pastner I'm hoping that the toughness and character of the kids might rub off on the coach. They deserve better.

Yea...Josh is actually managing to deflate the mental edge that these players have...continuously....Tarik was one of them and he's doing the same to Iverson did it to Big Dom and very close to doing that same ton Pookie....Austin;Shaq and King especially are becoming a shell of themselves.....King had so much passion and fire last year...Now he's lost, with barely a flicker of flame left.....

It's also happening to the fans...Listen & look at us We're miserable!!!!

is that why he missed all those bunnies? Or was Nash in his head?

(12-14-2014 12:08 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 11:51 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 11:22 AM)DogFather Wrote:  Excellent post.

What's killing me about the Pastner era is that I really LIKE most of the kids. There have been teams in the past where you knew the kids were a little sketchy, but you pulled for them anyway, hoping that something good would rub off on them.

With Pastner I'm hoping that the toughness and character of the kids might rub off on the coach. They deserve better.

Yea...Josh is actually managing to deflate the mental edge that these players have...continuously....Tarik was one of them and he's doing the same to Iverson did it to Big Dom and very close to doing that same ton Pookie....Austin;Shaq and King especially are becoming a shell of themselves.....King had so much passion and fire last year...Now he's lost, with barely a flicker of flame left.....

It's also happening to the fans...Listen & look at us We're miserable!!!!

is that why he missed all those bunnies? Or was Nash in his head?

Maybe. Have our kids lost confidence? Seems to be a recurring theme. Maybe our kids are not playing in their natural positions. Let's see, There is Markel, Austin, JJ, Shaq, King, Iverson, etc.

Seems like none of our players ever play the position they played in High School. Not sure but it seems like every year we're talking about this guy and that guy playing this position instead. Is everyone a tweener on Pastners teams?

Other teams move kids around too, but it seems like virtually all of our kids fit into this category. We always seem to be looking for a position to play our players. Drives me batty.

(12-14-2014 09:05 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:50 AM)thememphisshow Wrote:  It's about getting blown out against good teams, on multiple times, ON NATIONAL TV. The University of Memphis should never get blown out or if we do, it should only be every blue moon. Not blown out more times than not.

It's about being COMPETITIVE and forcing RESPECT!!!

If the Memphis Grizzles lose a game, we know FOR A FACT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the following:

1). That the team played with all heart and did not back down!!

2). Displayed a offensive and defensive system that is obvious to recognize.

3). Were competive in most games against good - elite teams.


Most fans, even the Pastner bashers, would not call for his head if we lost games RESPECTFULLY. If we play good basketball, most fans would be satisfied even in rebuilding years (i.e, Justin Fuente- Last year, his team was always competitive and forced respect even in loses).

Lastly, Memphis basketball was repected among the National media and other fans bases. Now, I start to sense that we are looked as a joke of a program. And that lost of respect can trickle down to other areas that will effect our programs LONGTERM!

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that many of our fans are psychos.

Yesterday, in a measured tone, the announcers suggested that we had the players, but that this coach is not getting them to play.

That's exactly what they were saying. Exactly.

That's what I'm afraid of. I was just thinking about this. Remember when UMASS was a legit, feared, and respected program?

Now how many people fear playing UMASS? NOBODY
I don't want for our program to go down a similiar path.

Actually, it's ALWAYS about the losses.

Not trying to be a smart alec, but that really is the issue when it comes to any sports program. Only one thing causes a change in coaching staff-- losses.

Either a team has too many and fires its coach.

Or another team has too many and hires someone else's coach.

It's ALL about the losses.

My point was that people are more willing to tolerate loses more in a "down season" when the loses are respectable, the team plays good basketball, and the players know what they are doing.

(12-14-2014 01:14 PM)thememphisshow Wrote:  My point was that people are more willing to tolerate loses more in a "down season" when the loses are respectable, the team plays good basketball, and the players know what they are doing.

I'd prefer to have a down season after a few up seasons first.

That's another point. I gurantee you that Michigan fans are not calling for John Beilein's job after Michigan's losses this season. He has earned to have a down season.