If you had to pick 2 schools that are already in a P5 conference, that should trade conferences. What 2 schools would you pick?

For example you could pick Georgia Tech and South Carolina. South Carolina should be in the ACC and Georgia Tech should be in the SEC. Something like that.

I would pick Nebraska and Iowa State. Iowa State should be in the BigTen. Nebraska should be in the Big 12. Nebraska has a long history with the Big 8 schools like Oklahoma and Kansas. Iowa State should be in the same conference as Iowa.

3-way trade: West Virginia to SEC, Missouri to Big Ten, Nebraska to Big 12. Just makes more sense to me.

Penn State and Maryland to the ACC
Iowa State and Missouri to the BIG 10

SEC loses Missouri, gains FSU
ACC loses FSU, gains WVU
Big 12 loses WVU, gains Nebraska
B1G loses Nebraska, gains Missouri

WVU to the ACC, please.

Nebraska back in the B12 - you do that, you could add BYU and Colorado State and have a geographically responsible conference.

(12-13-2014 06:16 PM)goofus Wrote:  If you had to pick 2 schools that are already in a P5 conference, that should trade conferences. What 2 schools would you pick?

For example you could pick Georgia Tech and South Carolina. South Carolina should be in the ACC and Georgia Tech should be in the SEC. Something like that.

I would pick Nebraska and Iowa State. Iowa State should be in the BigTen. Nebraska should be in the Big 12. Nebraska has a long history with the Big 8 schools like Oklahoma and Kansas. Iowa State should be in the same conference as Iowa.

No, they shouldn't. Do Florida State and Florida belong in the same conference?

I like the fact that Iowa has an extremely strong ooc rivalry with Iowa State. Every conference game is meaningful. The Rivalry with Iowa State being out of conference means at least one of our OOC games will mean something for us every year.

I really don't think there are any obvious trades. The best one that I can think of is due to academic reasons. Private school Vanderbilt swaps conferences with Semi-Public Louisville. Academically it is in line with what the ACC is all about. Athletically though they wouldnt do it.

(12-13-2014 07:23 PM)jgkojak Wrote:  WVU to the ACC, please.

Nebraska back in the B12 - you do that, you could add BYU and Colorado State and have a geographically responsible conference.

BYU and Colorado Stae are not P5 schools.

Virginia Tech to the SEC, Kentucky to the ACC.

You got to get WVU & ND in the ACC. BYU in the Big 12.

(12-13-2014 09:38 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Virginia Tech to the SEC, Kentucky to the ACC.

I like your answer. I think thats the bes one yet.

(12-13-2014 06:20 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  3-way trade: West Virginia to SEC, Missouri to Big Ten, Nebraska to Big 12. Just makes more sense to me.

I like this one best. Good choice, dude.

An interesting exercise. While I would like to see some schools in a different conference than the one they are currently in, I really don't see any one for one trade that makes much sense (which was the original question posed). Fact is, conference alignment, for all we talk about money grabbing, is actually pretty rational at the P5 level. Other than West Virginia, which a geographical misfit in the Big 12, everybody else makes sense. They could fit, geographically at least, in either the ACC or SEC. But neither of those conferences have a school that makes clearly more sense in the Big 12 than their current affiliation IMO.

If you like the idea that P5 schools in same state should not be in the same conference, then some of these trades could make sense.

Oklahoma State for Miss. State

NC St for Auburn

Vanderbilt for Wake Forest

Virginia Tech for Mich. St.

Indiana for Kansas

Northwestern for Duke

Arizona st for Texas Tech

Oregon State for Kansas State

Miami for South Carolina. It's be interested to see Miami, even if increasingly a has been (yes, I'm quite aware Houston is one for certain), in the SEC and the other USC used to be an ACC school and I honestly think it's a better fit minus the fact the SEC is full of state flagships.

(12-14-2014 02:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  An interesting exercise. While I would like to see some schools in a different conference than the one they are currently in, I really don't see any one for one trade that makes much sense (which was the original question posed). Fact is, conference alignment, for all we talk about money grabbing, is actually pretty rational at the P5 level. Other than West Virginia, which a geographical misfit in the Big 12, everybody else makes sense. They could fit, geographically at least, in either the ACC or SEC. But neither of those conferences have a school that makes clearly more sense in the Big 12 than their current affiliation IMO.

Right. No one has suggested a swap that all of the schools involved would want to make.

(12-14-2014 12:55 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 06:20 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  3-way trade: West Virginia to SEC, Missouri to Big Ten, Nebraska to Big 12. Just makes more sense to me.

I like this one best. Good choice, dude.

MU and NU do not like this at all.

Kentucky and Vanderbilt to the ACC, Clemson and FSU to the SEC.


Kentucky gets to associate with fellow basketball first schools, Vanderbilt gets to associate with more fellow private schools. Clemson and FSU gets to associate with fellow large stadium football first schools.

(12-14-2014 08:34 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 09:38 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Virginia Tech to the SEC, Kentucky to the ACC.

I like your answer. I think thats the bes one yet.

Of the ones I have seen, this one seems to make the most sense in terms of one school fitting in better with the other. I think this exercise most likely involved SEC/ACC switches, due to the two conferences having the most overlap.

Here is one more that I think might be interesting for ish and giggles:

Clemson to the SEC, South Carolina to the ACC.


And finally another that would probably help both conferences balance out both football and basketball and expand both conferences' boundaries:

Auburn to the ACC, NC State to the SEC.

(12-15-2014 12:10 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(12-14-2014 08:34 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 09:38 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Virginia Tech to the SEC, Kentucky to the ACC.

I like your answer. I think thats the bes one yet.

Of the ones I have seen, this one seems to make the most sense in terms of one school fitting in better with the other. I think this exercise most likely involved SEC/ACC switches, due to the two conferences having the most overlap.

Here is one more that I think might be interesting for ish and giggles:

Clemson to the SEC, South Carolina to the ACC.


And finally another that would probably help both conferences balance out both football and basketball and expand both conferences' boundaries:

Auburn to the ACC, NC State to the SEC.

That was the one possibility I considered. I think Wolfpack fans could get behind it, Tiger fans not so much. It does give Auburn an easier route to the CFP, though. It lets the SEC move Mizzou to the west where they belong, but that doesn't help them with their east/west competitive imbalance. It would also increase the number of inter-conference rivalry games between the ACC and SEC from four to six.

(12-15-2014 12:26 PM)ken d Wrote:  that doesn't help them with their east/west competitive imbalance.

It was not more than a few years ago, that the imbalance was the other way around, with the very strong east, and the weak west.