(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:27 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:18 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Give it a rest RaiderRed... tech at Lubbock isn't and never was.

Where is UH and why aren't they in a P5 conference? Houston has a history of good football and great fan support.

Houston isn't in a p5 conference b/c of its lack of athletic support then, but has now aggressively turn the corner with its elevation to Tier1 status and a beautiful new football stadium.

I've seen it up close. Good stadium that needs some finishing touches to make it nicer. That crowd during the UTSA game was amazing. What happened after that?

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:40 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Dodds is long gine

That doesn't mean no one at Texas shared his views. He wasn't run out of there.

Dodds was told thanks but get out. He oversaw the biggest athletic budget in the country and produced very little considering.

He was told to get out and....become special assistant to the new Athletic Director?



It is so predictable how people will react to all this. People will say anything in order to not accept the truth.

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:43 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Texas worked out a deal when A&M left - no Tech or Baylor problem

That makes sense. I don't think Texas will want to go anywhere alone though. I think Baylor likely tags along but Lubbock is way out west.

Baylor, the school that Texas tried to leave twice?

Baylor is not the Baylor it used to be. It has a brand new shiny Stadium that is tailor made for TV. They have one of the strongest Athletic Departments in the conference in regards to the money sports.

Top notch Football and Basketball programs and a top notch women's basketball program. What does Tech have? I am not trying to start a pissing match but if you are going to dodge the major points then so be it.

Baylor got passed over because they aren't TV attractable. The committee decided to give Ohio St the nod.

Most Big 12 fans dislike Baylor and a few of our coaches voted TCU over Baylor despite the H2H. Baylor pissed a bunch of people off when A&M tried to leave and they have no allies.

DeLoss Dodds served as Texas's Athletic Director for more than 30 years. You really think he was drummed out in such a disrespectful fashion?

What did he do as Athletic Director? Oh...I don't know, how about triple the budget every decade? Seeing someone with a fan perspective that has a very decided anti Texas bias trying to say that Dodds was drummed out in disrespectful fashion is just too funny. I mean, I think you actually believe that.

(12-11-2014 11:53 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:43 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Texas worked out a deal when A&M left - no Tech or Baylor problem

That makes sense. I don't think Texas will want to go anywhere alone though. I think Baylor likely tags along but Lubbock is way out west.

Baylor, the school that Texas tried to leave twice?

Baylor is not the Baylor it used to be. It has a brand new shiny Stadium that is tailor made for TV. They have one of the strongest Athletic Departments in the conference in regards to the money sports.

Top notch Football and Basketball programs and a top notch women's basketball program. What does Tech have? I am not trying to start a pissing match but if you are going to dodge the major points then so be it.

Baylor got passed over because they aren't TV attractable. The committee decided to give Ohio St the nod.

Most Big 12 fans dislike Baylor and a few of our coaches voted TCU over Baylor despite the H2H. Baylor pissed a bunch of people off when A&M tried to leave and they have no allies.

Doesn't matter. I guarantee you that Baylor is more desirable to both the ACC and the SEC than Tech is. I also guarantee you that if Texas decides to go out west that they will drop Tech and bring Baylor if the PAC decides that Baylor is a better bargain.

They may dislike Baylor but Baylor has value right now, Tech's new coach is not doing what everyone thought he would do.

(12-11-2014 11:48 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:27 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:18 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Give it a rest RaiderRed... tech at Lubbock isn't and never was.

Where is UH and why aren't they in a P5 conference? Houston has a history of good football and great fan support.

Houston isn't in a p5 conference b/c of its lack of athletic support then, but has now aggressively turn the corner with its elevation to Tier1 status and a beautiful new football stadium.

I've seen it up close. Good stadium that needs some finishing touches to make it nicer. That crowd during the UTSA game was amazing. What happened after that?

The coach happen after that... Houston isn't going to put up with minor results anymore... Anyhow, tech at Lubbock shouldn't remove it's seat belts just yet, gonna be some very bad bumpy roads ahead.

(12-11-2014 11:50 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:40 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Dodds is long gine

That doesn't mean no one at Texas shared his views. He wasn't run out of there.

Dodds was told thanks but get out. He oversaw the biggest athletic budget in the country and produced very little considering.

He was told to get out and....become special assistant to the new Athletic Director?



It is so predictable how people will react to all this. People will say anything in order to not accept the truth.

I live/work in Austin and work with UT personnel on their new medical school. Deloss wore out his welcome.

(12-12-2014 12:01 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:50 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:40 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Dodds is long gine

That doesn't mean no one at Texas shared his views. He wasn't run out of there.

Dodds was told thanks but get out. He oversaw the biggest athletic budget in the country and produced very little considering.

He was told to get out and....become special assistant to the new Athletic Director?



It is so predictable how people will react to all this. People will say anything in order to not accept the truth.

I live/work in Austin and work with UT personnel on their new medical school. Deloss wore out his welcome.

Pretty sure that if everyone disagreed with what he was doing, that the President would have stepped forward. That is what Presidents do. They allow AD's to do their job until the President disagrees with what the AD is doing. Since his departure we havnt seen a single thing signaling a major change in the mentality of Texas in regards to the situation.

Why?

Because Dodds's points on why the PAC is a bad choice for Texas are good points no matter whom presents them. It is very telling that you are not willing to address any of them and continue on with all of this here say about whom you know and whatever else.

Very telling indeed.

(12-11-2014 11:18 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  And OU and Texas laugh at you

I think all of us are laughing as we cash checks generated by our support across the state of Texas.

Why the hatred? SMU hired a very well liked HC and will soon be returning to bowl games. Houston has the same chance as well with their soon to be named HC

Ironic how four schools had to leave to squeeze equal revenue sharing out of Texas.

(12-11-2014 11:55 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:53 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:43 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  That makes sense. I don't think Texas will want to go anywhere alone though. I think Baylor likely tags along but Lubbock is way out west.

Baylor, the school that Texas tried to leave twice?

Baylor is not the Baylor it used to be. It has a brand new shiny Stadium that is tailor made for TV. They have one of the strongest Athletic Departments in the conference in regards to the money sports.

Top notch Football and Basketball programs and a top notch women's basketball program. What does Tech have? I am not trying to start a pissing match but if you are going to dodge the major points then so be it.

Baylor got passed over because they aren't TV attractable. The committee decided to give Ohio St the nod.

Most Big 12 fans dislike Baylor and a few of our coaches voted TCU over Baylor despite the H2H. Baylor pissed a bunch of people off when A&M tried to leave and they have no allies.

Doesn't matter. I guarantee you that Baylor is more desirable to both the ACC and the SEC than Tech is. I also guarantee you that if Texas decides to go out west that they will drop Tech and bring Baylor if the PAC decides that Baylor is a better bargain.

They may dislike Baylor but Baylor has value right now, Tech's new coach is not doing what everyone thought he would do.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. I live in Texas and understand how this state operates. I'm not sure why a Iowa fan living in Arizona cares? This isn't your fight.

If Baylor is so valuable--- have the Big 10 take them. It wasn't that long ago when Baylor was a doormat

KK has made mistakes as most young coaches do but he is has a great recruiting class coming in. Texas Tech will be fine

(12-12-2014 12:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:48 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:27 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:18 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Give it a rest RaiderRed... tech at Lubbock isn't and never was.

Where is UH and why aren't they in a P5 conference? Houston has a history of good football and great fan support.

Houston isn't in a p5 conference b/c of its lack of athletic support then, but has now aggressively turn the corner with its elevation to Tier1 status and a beautiful new football stadium.

I've seen it up close. Good stadium that needs some finishing touches to make it nicer. That crowd during the UTSA game was amazing. What happened after that?

The coach happen after that... Houston isn't going to put up with minor results anymore... Anyhow, tech at Lubbock shouldn't remove it's seat belts just yet, gonna be some very bad bumpy roads ahead.

Have you seen our recruiting class? Kliff wasn't left with much but I have a feeling UH fans will be wishing he was their HC in the next few years.

I hear Gibbs, the UH DC, is talking to us. I'm not sure if Kliff will offer but we are talking

(12-12-2014 12:06 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:18 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  And OU and Texas laugh at you

I think all of us are laughing as we cash checks generated by our support across the state of Texas.

Why the hatred? SMU hired a very well liked HC and will soon be returning to bowl games. Houston has the same chance as well with their soon to be named HC

Ironic how four schools had to leave to squeeze equal revenue sharing out of Texas.

Ironic that 2 of the 4 schools that left also voted for unequal revenue sharing. Mizzou and Colorado are afterthoughts. Mizzou was part of the forgotten 5. Nebraska and A&M voted for unequal revenue sharing until they joined a conference with Northwestern and Vandy. They both suddenly accepted Northwestern and Vandy as equals respectively.

Hmmmm

(12-12-2014 12:09 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:55 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:53 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:43 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Baylor, the school that Texas tried to leave twice?

Baylor is not the Baylor it used to be. It has a brand new shiny Stadium that is tailor made for TV. They have one of the strongest Athletic Departments in the conference in regards to the money sports.

Top notch Football and Basketball programs and a top notch women's basketball program. What does Tech have? I am not trying to start a pissing match but if you are going to dodge the major points then so be it.

Baylor got passed over because they aren't TV attractable. The committee decided to give Ohio St the nod.

Most Big 12 fans dislike Baylor and a few of our coaches voted TCU over Baylor despite the H2H. Baylor pissed a bunch of people off when A&M tried to leave and they have no allies.

Doesn't matter. I guarantee you that Baylor is more desirable to both the ACC and the SEC than Tech is. I also guarantee you that if Texas decides to go out west that they will drop Tech and bring Baylor if the PAC decides that Baylor is a better bargain.

They may dislike Baylor but Baylor has value right now, Tech's new coach is not doing what everyone thought he would do.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. I live in Texas and understand how this state operates. I'm not sure why a Iowa fan living in Arizona cares? This isn't your fight.

If Baylor is so valuable--- have the Big 10 take them. It wasn't that long ago when Baylor was a doormat

KK has made mistakes as most young coaches do but he is has a great recruiting class coming in. Texas Tech will be fine

I'm not fighting, nor do I care. This is easy. I showed a video and all you have done in response is to try to ad hom your way out of it.

I am simply facilitating you to continue doing so because each ad hom response further shows that you don't want to actually respond to something that is real. You just keep tossing out all this made up stuff while throwing in insults with it.

(12-12-2014 12:15 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 12:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:48 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:27 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Where is UH and why aren't they in a P5 conference? Houston has a history of good football and great fan support.

Houston isn't in a p5 conference b/c of its lack of athletic support then, but has now aggressively turn the corner with its elevation to Tier1 status and a beautiful new football stadium.

I've seen it up close. Good stadium that needs some finishing touches to make it nicer. That crowd during the UTSA game was amazing. What happened after that?

The coach happen after that... Houston isn't going to put up with minor results anymore... Anyhow, tech at Lubbock shouldn't remove it's seat belts just yet, gonna be some very bad bumpy roads ahead.

Have you seen our recruiting class? Kliff wasn't left with much but I have a feeling UH fans will be wishing he was their HC in the next few years.

I hear Gibbs, the UH DC, is talking to us. I'm not sure if Kliff will offer but we are talking

If you get him you will be pleased. He has done an incredible job here. He likes it in Houston and doesnt want to move. He has made it clear he would prefer to stay---but a new coach is coming so he has to cover himself. If Herman gets the job here, I hope he keeps him.

(12-12-2014 12:59 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I'm not fighting, nor do I care. This is easy. I showed a video and all you have done in response is to try to ad hom your way out of it.

I am simply facilitating you to continue doing so because each ad hom response further shows that you don't want to actually respond to something that is real. You just keep tossing out all this made up stuff while throwing in insults with it.

Enough of this 'ad hom' nonsense. This is America, not Latin America.

(12-12-2014 12:59 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 12:09 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:55 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:53 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:45 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Baylor is not the Baylor it used to be. It has a brand new shiny Stadium that is tailor made for TV. They have one of the strongest Athletic Departments in the conference in regards to the money sports.

Top notch Football and Basketball programs and a top notch women's basketball program. What does Tech have? I am not trying to start a pissing match but if you are going to dodge the major points then so be it.

Baylor got passed over because they aren't TV attractable. The committee decided to give Ohio St the nod.

Most Big 12 fans dislike Baylor and a few of our coaches voted TCU over Baylor despite the H2H. Baylor pissed a bunch of people off when A&M tried to leave and they have no allies.

Doesn't matter. I guarantee you that Baylor is more desirable to both the ACC and the SEC than Tech is. I also guarantee you that if Texas decides to go out west that they will drop Tech and bring Baylor if the PAC decides that Baylor is a better bargain.

They may dislike Baylor but Baylor has value right now, Tech's new coach is not doing what everyone thought he would do.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. I live in Texas and understand how this state operates. I'm not sure why a Iowa fan living in Arizona cares? This isn't your fight.

If Baylor is so valuable--- have the Big 10 take them. It wasn't that long ago when Baylor was a doormat

KK has made mistakes as most young coaches do but he is has a great recruiting class coming in. Texas Tech will be fine

I'm not fighting, nor do I care. This is easy. I showed a video and all you have done in response is to try to ad hom your way out of it.

I am simply facilitating you to continue doing so because each ad hom response further shows that you don't want to actually respond to something that is real. You just keep tossing out all this made up stuff while throwing in insults with it.

A video from how long ago? 2010-2011? If you didn't care---- you wouldn't post on a thread that has nothing to do with the Big 10, Arizona or Iowa.

The simple fact remains that Baylor, along with Kansas, K-State, Iowa St and Mizzou were the forgotten 5. Texas Tech and Oklahoma St had safe landing spots. The last 2 years change nothing. Football wins and losses are cyclical and TV dominates. Small Texas private schools add nothing.

I didn't attack you but I question why you care? Nothing "ad hom" about that.

Personally I think that the B12 is myopic and it'll cost them going forward. If OU or UT move on, that conference is in shambles. They've been reactive this whole time and weren't smart enough to grab Louisville! It looks as though it's lost on them, so they'll wither.

(12-12-2014 01:11 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 12:15 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 12:01 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:48 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Houston isn't in a p5 conference b/c of its lack of athletic support then, but has now aggressively turn the corner with its elevation to Tier1 status and a beautiful new football stadium.

I've seen it up close. Good stadium that needs some finishing touches to make it nicer. That crowd during the UTSA game was amazing. What happened after that?

The coach happen after that... Houston isn't going to put up with minor results anymore... Anyhow, tech at Lubbock shouldn't remove it's seat belts just yet, gonna be some very bad bumpy roads ahead.

Have you seen our recruiting class? Kliff wasn't left with much but I have a feeling UH fans will be wishing he was their HC in the next few years.

I hear Gibbs, the UH DC, is talking to us. I'm not sure if Kliff will offer but we are talking

If you get him you will be pleased. He has done an incredible job here. He likes it in Houston and doesnt want to move. He has made it clear he would prefer to stay---but a new coach is coming so he has to cover himself. If Herman gets the job here, I hope he keeps him.

Like I said, we are talking. Mike Leach was "supposedly" talking with UH as well.

Our current interim DC is a Tech grad and we just dismissed a defensive coach. We will hire a DC but we have options and we will make the $$$ better than what they make at their current job.

(12-12-2014 01:19 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Personally I think that the B12 is myopic and it'll cost them going forward. If OU or UT move on, that conference is in shambles. They've been reactive this whole time and weren't smart enough to grab Louisville! It looks as though it's lost on them, so they'll wither.

Not taking Louisville and BYU to round it out to 12 will prove to be a mistake. Because now there are simply not 2 candidates out there that add to the conference. UCF, USF, Cincy simply don't excite anybody in the midwest. If it weren't for Boise's terrible geography, BYU and Boise would be a no brainer, but the Big 12 for some dumb reason is obsessed with looking east or nowhere.

(12-12-2014 01:19 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Personally I think that the B12 is myopic and it'll cost them going forward. If OU or UT move on, that conference is in shambles. They've been reactive this whole time and weren't smart enough to grab Louisville! It looks as though it's lost on them, so they'll wither.

If we add UCF-- do we suddenly become P5 great again? Would UCF leave the American for the Big 12 without Texas and Oklahoma?

Texas Tech and Oklahoma were in favor of adding Louisville but the other schools out voted us.