Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

(12-11-2014 08:39 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

Wonder if the NCAA would change their minds if all Texas High Schools kept all college coaches away from all events with Texas high school athletes?

There is also this, which is squarely on the DI coaches themselves and not the NCAA. (I do so hate defending the NCAA.)

"Increasingly, high-level BCS players that enrolled in college during the spring semester and players discouraged from participating by their Division I programs did not play in the all-star games."

(12-11-2014 09:34 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 08:39 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

Wonder if the NCAA would change their minds if all Texas High Schools kept all college coaches away from all events with Texas high school athletes?

Would serve them right. As stated, most of these kids are already committed by the time this game is played. We've had several players on these teams recently (last 6-8 yrs).
Mack Brown, Fran, etc have been at these conventions and they are not interacting with the players in a recruiting mode. Most of their time is lecturing/having mini classes for the coaches.

It's played in the summer! It's guys who are going to be on campus in 6+- weeks.

That really stinks.

(12-11-2014 08:39 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

Uhh....so keep coaches away. NCAA ruling only impacts their coaches, not the THSCA's ability to have all-star games.

(12-12-2014 11:37 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 08:39 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

Uhh....so keep coaches away. NCAA ruling only impacts their coaches, not the THSCA's ability to have all-star games.

That's What I was thinking. Arkansas does a separate coaches clinic at a different time from the All Star Game for this reason.

Sounds like Texas being Texas and wanting to get a rule changed for themselves to me.

(12-12-2014 11:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 11:37 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 08:39 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

Uhh....so keep coaches away. NCAA ruling only impacts their coaches, not the THSCA's ability to have all-star games.

That's What I was thinking. Arkansas does a separate coaches clinic at a different time from the All Star Game for this reason.

Sounds like Texas being Texas and wanting to get a rule changed for themselves to me.

Blaming everything bad that ever happens in high school/college on an organization that gets every single bit of its authority from its member schools is getting very old.

(12-11-2014 08:39 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Texas HS Coaches Association Football and Basketball All Star games go the way of the dinosaur.

http://lonestarvarsity.com/news/655/THSC...tar-games/

"The THSCA announced in a release Thursday that its all-star games in football and basketball would be discontinued, ending in 80-year tradition, because the NCAA did not grant an exemption from an NCAA Bylaw “prohibiting Division I college football coaches from attending or speaking at a convention that has an all-star game affiliated with it.” "

Well that sucks. Stupid NCAA

So you wouldn't have a problem with an organization pooling a ton of players together and giving a FBS coach exclusive rights to talk to, evaluate and recruit players? It's pretty obvious why this is a smart rule and the NCAA was right to turn down the waiver.

Want your special all star game to go on? Then don't invite current college coaches to speak! There's plenty of retired/out of work coaches out there that could give a wonderful opportunity to the players to learn from.

(12-14-2014 07:18 PM)nsavandal09 Wrote:  So you wouldn't have a problem with an organization pooling a ton of players together and giving a FBS coach exclusive rights to talk to, evaluate and recruit players? It's pretty obvious why this is a smart rule and the NCAA was right to turn down the waiver.

Want your special all star game to go on? Then don't invite current college coaches to speak! There's plenty of retired/out of work coaches out there that could give a wonderful opportunity to the players to learn from.

The game is in July, after they have graduated from HS (in May here in TX). 99.9% of the players are already committed and going to be in college in a few weeks. I assumed it's a logistic nightmare to try and do during the school year (It is all graduated seniors, no underclassmen)

The speaking engagements are for coaches, not the kids. It's lectures and clinics and, sure, they probably mill around, but they aren't recruiting anybody. Their LOI's are signed in February, they've, more than likely, already enrolled in Fall classes.

Nobody on this forum said they are or should challenge a new rule. (seems to be since they've been doing it for 80 years). I just found it strange and kind of sad.

As for what other states do, fine, this is their big fundraiser and, in that aspect, it kinda sucks. You have no idea how many high schools there are in Texas and what it, likely, takes to keep them (THSCA) afloat.

Hopefully they figure something else out.

(and it is maybe 4-5, if that, coaches that are asked to come speak....not dozens)

I do admit to having enjoyed watching this game every year.

I was pretty disappointed at the Texas girls coaches clinic because of this rule. The high school coaches that replaced the college coaches gave some pretty great lectures though. It still would have been cool to have heard from the D1 coaches.