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Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
So I have a poor, dumb, white trash cousin that posts her entire life on Facebook. Here are a few of her rants:
Quote:So ticked off right now!!!! We go to the nuro surg office and they said with the insurance crap they cant do a ct scan or mri on my lower back to c what is going on untill after I do 6 weeks of pt!!! Nope not doing it, I will just live with it until I cant walk, then they r still trying to get a mri or ct scan approved for Danny's brain... WTHeck!!!!!!! Then we went in walmart to kill time and we get a call from the hospital sayin Danny cant have a ct scan on his kidneys today cause it hasnt been approved yet!!!! It was supposed to b tomrow but I got it for today so we only have to come up here once this week, we would have been pissed if we would have came up here tomrow and it hadnt been approved!!!!! I would have made them pay for my gas. Like Danny said dr appts r a waste of time but they want u to come every 6 months for visits and cant or wont do anything. As soon as we hear something from his disability we r leaving dr golds office and going some where else!!!!! So I told Danny pee on a ct scan of his kidneys, if he gets bad I am taking him to the er!!!!!
Quote: I woke up threw the night worried about grandma and I have some sinus junk going on and couldnt breath and had crap in my throat. I will fix some tea with honey and cinnomon later. I need a 7 day weekend after last weeks running. Good thing is we only go to parkersburg 2 rimes this week, mayb once if I can get his ct scan rescehduled for thursday instead of friday. Dr appts r slowing dying down. I have been praying that we will get a letter this week saying Danny is approved for his disability. That would b the best Christmas present, even though he wouldnt get a check for a month or two, but at least we would know he would b getting one.
Quote:Danny's kidneys r still hurting, his right one was the ones that hurt worse, now he said his left one is hurting worse today. They still have never called to tell us about his urine test so I will have to call them monday and his ct scan isnt till friday in parkersburg, ilwhich I am going to call the hospital and try to get it for thursday cause we have appts with the nuro surg thursday. I dont understand why it is taking so long for a ct scan when this is important!!!!! He is in so much pain right now!!! If he keeps it up he is going to go to the er!!!!!
Quote:Please say a little prayer for me to cause I had a shot in my knee today and the more the day goes by the stiffer it is getting and hard to walk on it. I will have to walk a little bit tomrow to get to where we have to go. Keep us in ur prayers!!! THANKS
Quote:Here is how Danny's appt went at the urologist. They did a xray and saw a very small stone in his left kidney and said thats not whats causing the prob. They ordered a ct scan and its not till next friday. They want to c if there is a stone stuck in a tube and they cant c it in the xray, they r also looking to c if its his back or something else. But right now we dont know anything. Its a waiting game for now. We will let everybody know when we find out whats going on. He is still hurting at times he hurts worse. Hope u all have a nice evening.
Quote:Please say a prayer for me cause I am at the board office with Cody and than off to parkersburg for Cody's appt with his physc and then I have a appt with the orthopedic dr for my knee. I am praying no surg for me!!!!!!!
All of this is since the beginning of December (and this is only a small sample). Someone in her family is in the ER, a psychiatrist, or some sort of specialist 3 to 5 times per week.
She doesn't work. Her husband doesn't work. She's been praying on facebook for months for her husband to get approved for disability (yet he is healthy enough to hunt and run what she likes to call a farm). They're on medicaid (of course), food stamps, and probably soon to be disability.
She's raising two more that will undoubtedly be just like her.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
I will say this: I have no frame of reference to understand people who live and encourage this type of lifestyle.
I will also say this: But, sometimes, it is really hard not to completely negatively judge someone.
I will end by saying: people like this are lacking in any real talent besides that of making other people unhappy and stirring up drama.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
I have a sister in law that is just as bad. She has "fibromyalgia".
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
My favorite is her refusing to do physical therapy in order to get treatment. I guess getting off her fat ass to make herself healthier is just too much work.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
I'm a RN that works in the ER and these type of people with this mentality make up 75% of our pt population, and it's generational from kids, to parents, to grand parents, and to great grand parents. I think it's sickening and watching their addictive behaviors, whether it's for the narcotics or attention, year after year after year because they never stop coming in daily or weekly but it makes you wish that they'd just code and die but you know that never happens to those types of people because you can't kill **** roaches. I thought the only way I could escape the regular **** roaches that I took care of in the ICU and more specifically the ER was to go work level 1 trauma at the Med, who only accepts trauma pt's so you would think that people wouldn't have daily or weekly trauma, but they do and they have just as many regulars as other places do which was incredible to think. I know I sound like a heartless nurse which is far from the truth because I treat the junky regulars as well as I treat the true emergencies but you do get deflated and agitated taking care of these bottom feeders of society who are a lost cause because of the dependence that our govt has perpetuated on society.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 03:00 PM)Niner National Wrote: My favorite is her refusing to do physical therapy in order to get treatment. I guess getting off her fat ass to make herself healthier is just too much work.
I grew up in that general neck of the woods and I can tell you that she is far from alone in that the government teat is a way of life with little done to "help ones self".
I am always amazed when people b!tch about services they receive for "free" that aren't done fast enough for them.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
Unfortunately, I believe all of us have family members like this. I have 2 cousins myself
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 02:49 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: I will end by saying: people like this are lacking in any real talent besides that of making other people unhappy and stirring up drama.
I think people like that just crave attention. Constantly going to a doctor gives that person constant attention.
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2014 03:26 PM by VA49er.)
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 03:25 PM)VA49er Wrote: (12-11-2014 02:49 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: I will end by saying: people like this are lacking in any real talent besides that of making other people unhappy and stirring up drama.
I think people like that just crave attention. Constantly going to a doctor gives that person constant attention.
Undoubtedly.
I have a neighbor who fits your description to a T. I'm convinced she got into a car accident just to have more access to doctors and chiropractors.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 03:10 PM)Crebman Wrote: (12-11-2014 03:00 PM)Niner National Wrote: My favorite is her refusing to do physical therapy in order to get treatment. I guess getting off her fat ass to make herself healthier is just too much work.
I grew up in that general neck of the woods and I can tell you that she is far from alone in that the government teat is a way of life with little done to "help ones self".
I am always amazed when people b!tch about services they receive for "free" that aren't done fast enough for them.
My wife is an OB/GYN and works at the only practice that takes Medicare/Medicaid. The best is when such patients tell her that they PAY her salary. Comedy Gold!
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
And we're tying physician reimbursement to 'satisfying' these patients.
Many people won't do PT. They just want a pill
Many people won't exercise, stop smoking or drinking or eat better. They just want a pill
Of course there are also people with REAL problems... but we can't always GET to those because THESE people are the ones making everyone else uncomfortable and occupying resources.
MAYBE the reason she can't get an MRI is that she had one recently enough that they KNOW what the problem is. I have congenital spinal stenosis compounded by years of sports injuries... and essentially the 'treatment' for what is sometimes unbearable pain is to 'do PT and put up with it as long as you possibly can' until it is so bad that you have no choice but to fuse your spine... Unless I'm ready to do so, I don't get an MRI every year because we already KNOW what the cause of the numbness or pain in my arm is.
Not knocking those who are hurt and are deservedly vocal about it... (especially since I'm one of them) but EVERY DAY I see people whom i KNOW are in tremendous pain who suffer severe injury and disease in relative silence... while some attention seeker with a boo boo is inconsolable. As much as I admire them, I also would like to shame those others... but I can't. Those are the very people most likely to respond 'poorly' to a patient satisfaction survey.
If you've had an echo in the past year and present to the ER with chest pain (but no elevated troponin), they aren't likely to give you another echo... even though everyone thinks they need/deserve one.
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2014 04:20 PM by Hambone10.)
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
Quote:After we got back from parkersburg and picked Jasmine up from school Danny had to bring his mom back to town cause her husband Rick hurt his foot and thought it was broke cause he broke it a long time ago. Well it isnt broke but the er told him he tore some stuff in there and sprained it. This family is cursed. LOL. Jasmine complained she didnt feel good this morn and then she felt fine till this evening and ask for the trash can incase she does throw up. Danny is hoping he isnt going to catch something cause he went in the hospital with his mom and he said there was tons of sick people in there!!!!
An update from the last hour!
Looks like another ER trip today and already making excuses for the next one later this week.
Tons of sick people in the ER. Go to the ******* doctor, not the ER.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 04:18 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: And we're tying physician reimbursement to 'satisfying' these patients.
Many people won't do PT. They just want a pill
Many people won't exercise, stop smoking or drinking or eat better. They just want a pill
Of course there are also people with REAL problems... but we can't always GET to those because THESE people are the ones making everyone else uncomfortable and occupying resources.
MAYBE the reason she can't get an MRI is that she had one recently enough that they KNOW what the problem is. I have congenital spinal stenosis compounded by years of sports injuries... and essentially the 'treatment' for what is sometimes unbearable pain is to 'do PT and put up with it as long as you possibly can' until it is so bad that you have no choice but to fuse your spine... Unless I'm ready to do so, I don't get an MRI every year because we already KNOW what the cause of the numbness or pain in my arm is.
Not knocking those who are hurt and are deservedly vocal about it... (especially since I'm one of them) but EVERY DAY I see people whom i KNOW are in tremendous pain who suffer severe injury and disease in relative silence... while some attention seeker with a boo boo is inconsolable. As much as I admire them, I also would like to shame those others... but I can't. Those are the very people most likely to respond 'poorly' to a patient satisfaction survey.
If you've had an echo in the past year and present to the ER with chest pain (but no elevated troponin), they aren't likely to give you another echo... even though everyone thinks they need/deserve one.
Maybe physicians need to subscribe a pill to them that will provide endless sleep!
It's called the "tax payer relaxation pill"
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-12-2014 06:41 PM)smudge12 Wrote: I honestly wanted to say something snarky about your cousin, but stepping back and looking at the big picture, I know nothing of her. Does she have underlying mental issues? Is she simply a product of her environment? Is it a combination of both or more?
I know it's tough to tolerate people like her, but I think it was Helen Keller that said that the highest result of an education is tolerance.
No known mental issues, she's just not smart. To say she's as dumb as a bag of hammers would be insulting because that bag and those hammers serve a purpose.
She grew up pretty poor, but her father (my uncle) worked. He had a slight learning disability, but he was a whiz with mechanical things and worked as a mechanic. Didn't make great money, but he worked for a living.
Her mom's side of the family though is apparently several generations of welfare dependency. Her husbands family might be that way too, I'm not really sure.
The only reason it is hard to tolerate her is because I know there are millions of other people out there just like her.
Her son got kicked out of school because he kept getting into trouble. He's like 13 or 14 maybe. She just stopped sending him to school because she didn't want to drive him to a special school far away (everything in rural WV is far away). About 6 months ago, she said something truly frightening: she was looking into homeschooling him.
I guess that didn't work out though, so he just sits at home all day and doesn't go to school. I'm not sure how that happens though because I'm pretty sure that is illegal.
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Re: RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 03:09 PM)wild bill Wrote: I'm a RN that works in the ER and these type of people with this mentality make up 75% of our pt population, and it's generational from kids, to parents, to grand parents, and to great grand parents. I think it's sickening and watching their addictive behaviors, whether it's for the narcotics or attention, year after year after year because they never stop coming in daily or weekly but it makes you wish that they'd just code and die but you know that never happens to those types of people because you can't kill **** roaches. I thought the only way I could escape the regular **** roaches that I took care of in the ICU and more specifically the ER was to go work level 1 trauma at the Med, who only accepts trauma pt's so you would think that people wouldn't have daily or weekly trauma, but they do and they have just as many regulars as other places do which was incredible to think. I know I sound like a heartless nurse which is far from the truth because I treat the junky regulars as well as I treat the true emergencies but you do get deflated and agitated taking care of these bottom feeders of society who are a lost cause because of the dependence that our govt has perpetuated on society.
You think bottom feeders are created by the government? I assure you, they come in every form of government except maybe Nazi Germany where they would be gathered together and shot.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-11-2014 02:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I have a sister in law that is just as bad. She has "fibromyalgia".
I "think" I had that once but it couldn't be diagnosed because it kept moving. For a 3 or 4 month span I had the most incredible pain that would spread through my joints. It might start on my ankle where the pain was so bad I couldn't walk and then move to my elbow or maybe a finger. I never knew what it was but I'm telling you it was bad. My wife thinks it was lyme disease.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
N_N, is this an Annette story?
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(12-13-2014 01:25 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote: N_N, is this an Annette story?
No. This is my cousin. She's just as dumb as Annette but not nearly as trashy. My cousin seems like a good person. Annette is a pimple on the ass of humanity.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
(12-13-2014 09:24 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (12-11-2014 03:09 PM)wild bill Wrote: I'm a RN that works in the ER and these type of people with this mentality make up 75% of our pt population, and it's generational from kids, to parents, to grand parents, and to great grand parents. I think it's sickening and watching their addictive behaviors, whether it's for the narcotics or attention, year after year after year because they never stop coming in daily or weekly but it makes you wish that they'd just code and die but you know that never happens to those types of people because you can't kill **** roaches. I thought the only way I could escape the regular **** roaches that I took care of in the ICU and more specifically the ER was to go work level 1 trauma at the Med, who only accepts trauma pt's so you would think that people wouldn't have daily or weekly trauma, but they do and they have just as many regulars as other places do which was incredible to think. I know I sound like a heartless nurse which is far from the truth because I treat the junky regulars as well as I treat the true emergencies but you do get deflated and agitated taking care of these bottom feeders of society who are a lost cause because of the dependence that our govt has perpetuated on society.
You think bottom feeders are created by the government? I assure you, they come in every form of government except maybe Nazi Germany where they would be gathered together and shot.
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While the government doesn't create this, it's policies of handing out entitlements without requiring anything in return does nothing but foster this type of behavior.
The "takers" get used to being given something for nothing, and before too long come to expect it and then b!tch when it doesn't suit their whims.
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RE: Why Healthcare Costs so Much: Example 29374932
We can survive when 10% of the population is like this. But when the takers outnumber the makers, we are in deep doo-doo.
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