(12-12-2014 02:24 PM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 08:54 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 08:51 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 08:23 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 08:01 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Memphis couldn't break 35K for their de facto championship game.

Mere miles from their campus.

35000 and 6,000 are way different. It shouldn't even be compared. Any way congrats on selling out. I will leave this alone because this is just going to go in circles.

Agree on both counts.

Congrats on ticket sales to the bowl game and I have no clue what that last comment you responded to has to do with anything in this conversation.

I am just going to end the pointless argument. Some knight fans don't like the fact that I said they should be able to sell out 6000 tickets to a bowl game and Florida. Apparently that pisses a lot of people off so I am just going to move on from this endless argument.

"I'm going to end this argument and immediately talk further about the subject in the next sentence." - Ramen Tiger

FWIW, I think that Ramen is a decent kid, he just struggles a bit in getting his point across in terms that don't come across as offensive. I don't read "trouble maker" in his comments, I just see a lot of mostly unintentional controversial articulation. ....just my opinion.

Congrats on selling so many tickets so quickly. We'll struggle with sales to the Miami Beach Bowl because of the date and distance, but (because some of the comments in this thread, I feel obliged to say....), we've done pretty well at the gate this year.

Crazy we lost at least a half a million from the BCS game and we will make a profit off a small time bowl. The whole bowl system is backwards.

(12-13-2014 02:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Crazy we lost at least a half a million from the BCS game and we will make a profit off a small time bowl. The whole bowl system is backwards.

...just like half of college athletics at times it seems. :)

I don't know how a program could lose $ on participation in a BCS bowl, but when a committee of bowl admins and conferences do the distribution and conference athletic, school, etc administrators get involved anything is possible.

I fully realize that when bowls require conferences to guarantee X amount of tickets to be sold/bought; the ability to make a net profit on bowl participation can become challenging; but it should be a net negative for participants.

(12-13-2014 02:42 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 02:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Crazy we lost at least a half a million from the BCS game and we will make a profit off a small time bowl. The whole bowl system is backwards.

...just like half of college athletics at times it seems. :)

I don't know how a program could lose $ on participation in a BCS bowl, but when a committee of bowl admins and conferences do the distribution and conference athletic, school, etc administrators get involved anything is possible.

I fully realize that when bowls require conferences to guarantee X amount of tickets to be sold/bought; the ability to make a net profit on bowl participation can become challenging; but it should be a net negative for participants.

Bcs games require the school to buy tons of tickets and mostly $200+ -$300 each. Add that stubhub was a 50% discount and you can see why people went that route. Schools have to deliver tickets back to the bowl committee and still take the loss. The bowls get to double dip with ticket sales. Then you get these committee members taking free vacations all over the place. The orange bowl committee came to UCF last year even though they had no intentions of picking us. Got to love the bowl scams.

(12-17-2014 04:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 02:42 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 02:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Crazy we lost at least a half a million from the BCS game and we will make a profit off a small time bowl. The whole bowl system is backwards.

...just like half of college athletics at times it seems. :)

I don't know how a program could lose $ on participation in a BCS bowl, but when a committee of bowl admins and conferences do the distribution and conference athletic, school, etc administrators get involved anything is possible.

I fully realize that when bowls require conferences to guarantee X amount of tickets to be sold/bought; the ability to make a net profit on bowl participation can become challenging; but it should be a net negative for participants.

Bcs games require the school to buy tons of tickets and mostly $200+ -$300 each. Add that stubhub was a 50% discount and you can see why people went that route. Schools have to deliver tickets back to the bowl committee and still take the loss. The bowls get to double dip with ticket sales. Then you get these committee members taking free vacations all over the place. The orange bowl committee came to UCF last year even though they had no intentions of picking us. Got to love the bowl scams.

Understood. The BCS bowls aren't different than other bowls where the participating university/conference is on the hook for X amount of tickets; the difference is in the price per ticket; now understood. I still find it unreasonable (of the bowl process) that a university participating in a bowl as rich as a BCS bowl would actually lose $ on its participation. Something is completely wrong with that process from a bowl organization/BCS perspective; not with UCF or UCF fans' participation. I may get weary of all of the UCF bravado here, but I'm a reasonable thinking individual.....most times anyway. :)